Oli in 9th inning : 'I asked (Arenado) if he wanted to end the game '

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Re: Oli in 9th inning : 'I asked (Arenado) if he wanted to end the game '

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The Dodgers' klutzy reliever Ben Casparius must have taken PFP with the 2006 Detroit Tigers' WS pitching staff. He made TWO bad throws in the 9th --- Winn was spectacular, pulling a Jackie Robinson --- , eventually requiring the infield to play in, and pull in the LF'er for a home-throw grounder. Had Conforto stayed in LF I doubt that Arenado fly ball would have scored anyone...setting up a sure third misplay by Casparius. :roll: That's what you're stuck with when 15 pitchers are on your IL.
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Clark Kimble wrote: 07 Jun 2025 21:40 pm The Dodgers' klutzy reliever Ben Casparius must have taken PFP with the 2006 Detroit Tigers' WS pitching staff. He made TWO bad throws in the 9th --- Winn was spectacular, pulling a Jackie Robinson --- , eventually requiring the infield to play in, and pull in the LF'er for a home-throw grounder. Had Conforto stayed in LF I doubt that Arenado fly ball would have scored anyone...setting up a sure third misplay by Casparius. :roll: That's what you're stuck with when 15 pitchers are on your IL.
Where was Conforto on that ball? I've only seen the replay and from what I could tell, nobody who could've done anything about that ball was anywhere near it.

Extra puzzling because we, and I assume everyone else, knows that Nado is a dead pull hitter. He can't hit anything with any authority to the right side.
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Re: Oli in 9th inning : 'I asked (Arenado) if he wanted to end the game '

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Strummer Jones wrote: 07 Jun 2025 22:14 pm
Clark Kimble wrote: 07 Jun 2025 21:40 pm The Dodgers' klutzy reliever Ben Casparius must have taken PFP with the 2006 Detroit Tigers' WS pitching staff. He made TWO bad throws in the 9th --- Winn was spectacular, pulling a Jackie Robinson --- , eventually requiring the infield to play in, and pull in the LF'er for a home-throw grounder. Had Conforto stayed in LF I doubt that Arenado fly ball would have scored anyone...setting up a sure third misplay by Casparius. :roll: That's what you're stuck with when 15 pitchers are on your IL.
Where was Conforto on that ball? I've only seen the replay and from what I could tell, nobody who could've done anything about that ball was anywhere near it.

Extra puzzling because we, and I assume everyone else, knows that Nado is a dead pull hitter. He can't hit anything with any authority to the right side.
Agree I was totally shocked when I seen their alignment of the two outfielders against Nado.
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Decker57 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 23:04 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 07 Jun 2025 22:14 pm
Clark Kimble wrote: 07 Jun 2025 21:40 pm The Dodgers' klutzy reliever Ben Casparius must have taken PFP with the 2006 Detroit Tigers' WS pitching staff. He made TWO bad throws in the 9th --- Winn was spectacular, pulling a Jackie Robinson --- , eventually requiring the infield to play in, and pull in the LF'er for a home-throw grounder. Had Conforto stayed in LF I doubt that Arenado fly ball would have scored anyone...setting up a sure third misplay by Casparius. :roll: That's what you're stuck with when 15 pitchers are on your IL.
Where was Conforto on that ball? I've only seen the replay and from what I could tell, nobody who could've done anything about that ball was anywhere near it.

Extra puzzling because we, and I assume everyone else, knows that Nado is a dead pull hitter. He can't hit anything with any authority to the right side.
Agree I was totally shocked when I seen their alignment of the two outfielders against Nado.
With Nado at the plate, if you are going to play 2 OFs play the LF to pull in LF and the CF slightly to pull in CF and leave RF open. I don't think they would have thrown the runner out at the plate on that flyball, since Barrero is fast. But their alignment made no sense.
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Re: Oli in 9th inning : 'I asked (Arenado) if he wanted to end the game '

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Here’s why the Dodgers aligned the way they did: the only place Arenado hits the ball with any authority today is LF. If he hits the ball in the air to LF, it’s most likely going to be deep enough to score Barrera. If he hits it in the air to LF, they’re going to lose anyway. Turns out they were right. Even if they catch that ball, Berrara walks home.
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Decker57 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 23:04 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 07 Jun 2025 22:14 pm
Clark Kimble wrote: 07 Jun 2025 21:40 pm The Dodgers' klutzy reliever Ben Casparius must have taken PFP with the 2006 Detroit Tigers' WS pitching staff. He made TWO bad throws in the 9th --- Winn was spectacular, pulling a Jackie Robinson --- , eventually requiring the infield to play in, and pull in the LF'er for a home-throw grounder. Had Conforto stayed in LF I doubt that Arenado fly ball would have scored anyone...setting up a sure third misplay by Casparius. :roll: That's what you're stuck with when 15 pitchers are on your IL.
Where was Conforto on that ball? I've only seen the replay and from what I could tell, nobody who could've done anything about that ball was anywhere near it.

Extra puzzling because we, and I assume everyone else, knows that Nado is a dead pull hitter. He can't hit anything with any authority to the right side.
Agree I was totally shocked when I seen their alignment of the two outfielders against Nado.
When you see things like that and the way they left that Casparius in long enough for us to win had me saying this is the Dodger team we've been hearing about all off-season?
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Red7 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 23:34 pm Here’s why the Dodgers aligned the way they did: the only place Arenado hits the ball with any authority today is LF. If he hits the ball in the air to LF, it’s most likely going to be deep enough to score Barrera. If he hits it in the air to LF, they’re going to lose anyway. Turns out they were right. Even if they catch that ball, Berrara walks home.
It was the slider left up that did it for LA
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ICCFIM2 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 23:30 pm
Decker57 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 23:04 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 07 Jun 2025 22:14 pm
Clark Kimble wrote: 07 Jun 2025 21:40 pm The Dodgers' klutzy reliever Ben Casparius must have taken PFP with the 2006 Detroit Tigers' WS pitching staff. He made TWO bad throws in the 9th --- Winn was spectacular, pulling a Jackie Robinson --- , eventually requiring the infield to play in, and pull in the LF'er for a home-throw grounder. Had Conforto stayed in LF I doubt that Arenado fly ball would have scored anyone...setting up a sure third misplay by Casparius. :roll: That's what you're stuck with when 15 pitchers are on your IL.
Where was Conforto on that ball? I've only seen the replay and from what I could tell, nobody who could've done anything about that ball was anywhere near it.

Extra puzzling because we, and I assume everyone else, knows that Nado is a dead pull hitter. He can't hit anything with any authority to the right side.
Agree I was totally shocked when I seen their alignment of the two outfielders against Nado.
With Nado at the plate, if you are going to play 2 OFs play the LF to pull in LF and the CF slightly to pull in CF and leave RF open. I don't think they would have thrown the runner out at the plate on that flyball, since Barrero is fast. But their alignment made no sense.
I think the dodgers thought if nolan gets it in the air to left they have no chance and were hoping he would rollover. In the end they were right, if the ball had been caught the left fielder had no play.
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1_12_1968 wrote: 08 Jun 2025 00:33 am
ICCFIM2 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 23:30 pm
Decker57 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 23:04 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 07 Jun 2025 22:14 pm
Clark Kimble wrote: 07 Jun 2025 21:40 pm The Dodgers' klutzy reliever Ben Casparius must have taken PFP with the 2006 Detroit Tigers' WS pitching staff. He made TWO bad throws in the 9th --- Winn was spectacular, pulling a Jackie Robinson --- , eventually requiring the infield to play in, and pull in the LF'er for a home-throw grounder. Had Conforto stayed in LF I doubt that Arenado fly ball would have scored anyone...setting up a sure third misplay by Casparius. :roll: That's what you're stuck with when 15 pitchers are on your IL.
Where was Conforto on that ball? I've only seen the replay and from what I could tell, nobody who could've done anything about that ball was anywhere near it.

Extra puzzling because we, and I assume everyone else, knows that Nado is a dead pull hitter. He can't hit anything with any authority to the right side.
Agree I was totally shocked when I seen their alignment of the two outfielders against Nado.
With Nado at the plate, if you are going to play 2 OFs play the LF to pull in LF and the CF slightly to pull in CF and leave RF open. I don't think they would have thrown the runner out at the plate on that flyball, since Barrero is fast. But their alignment made no sense.
I think the dodgers thought if nolan gets it in the air to left they have no chance and were hoping he would rollover. In the end they were right, if the ball had been caught the left fielder had no play.
If they had a leftfielder, catching the ball would have meant full run directly to the left field foul line. No way a fielder would be able to pivot and throw out Barrera.
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Clark Kimble wrote: 07 Jun 2025 21:40 pm The Dodgers' klutzy reliever Ben Casparius must have taken PFP with the 2006 Detroit Tigers' WS pitching staff. He made TWO bad throws in the 9th --- Winn was spectacular, pulling a Jackie Robinson --- , eventually requiring the infield to play in, and pull in the LF'er for a home-throw grounder. Had Conforto stayed in LF I doubt that Arenado fly ball would have scored anyone...setting up a sure third misplay by Casparius. :roll: That's what you're stuck with when 15 pitchers are on your IL.
What a stupid take. You obviously aren't a fan or watch much baseball
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ramfandan wrote: 07 Jun 2025 21:17 pm 'He replied YES and he did '

https://www.mlb.com/news/nolan-arenado- ... at-dodgers
And he replied,” do you know of any other hitter on this team more accomplished at hitting a pop up to short LF???” :lol: :lol:
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Red7 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 23:34 pm Here’s why the Dodgers aligned the way they did: the only place Arenado hits the ball with any authority today is LF. If he hits the ball in the air to LF, it’s most likely going to be deep enough to score Barrera. If he hits it in the air to LF, they’re going to lose anyway. Turns out they were right. Even if they catch that ball, Berrara walks home.
LoL. If it is hit to any part of the OF, wouldn't Barrero score anyway?
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 08 Jun 2025 08:48 am
Red7 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 23:34 pm Here’s why the Dodgers aligned the way they did: the only place Arenado hits the ball with any authority today is LF. If he hits the ball in the air to LF, it’s most likely going to be deep enough to score Barrera. If he hits it in the air to LF, they’re going to lose anyway. Turns out they were right. Even if they catch that ball, Berrara walks home.
LoL. If it is hit to any part of the OF, wouldn't Barrero score anyway?
And he'd have scored on that ball even if there was a LF there to make the catch.
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rockondlouie wrote: 08 Jun 2025 08:50 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 08 Jun 2025 08:48 am
Red7 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 23:34 pm Here’s why the Dodgers aligned the way they did: the only place Arenado hits the ball with any authority today is LF. If he hits the ball in the air to LF, it’s most likely going to be deep enough to score Barrera. If he hits it in the air to LF, they’re going to lose anyway. Turns out they were right. Even if they catch that ball, Berrara walks home.
LoL. If it is hit to any part of the OF, wouldn't Barrero score anyway?
And he'd have scored on that ball even if there was a LF there to make the catch.
Yeah, that's my point. But it is curious how they didn't play him to pull because that's what he does...
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 08 Jun 2025 08:53 am
rockondlouie wrote: 08 Jun 2025 08:50 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 08 Jun 2025 08:48 am
Red7 wrote: 07 Jun 2025 23:34 pm Here’s why the Dodgers aligned the way they did: the only place Arenado hits the ball with any authority today is LF. If he hits the ball in the air to LF, it’s most likely going to be deep enough to score Barrera. If he hits it in the air to LF, they’re going to lose anyway. Turns out they were right. Even if they catch that ball, Berrara walks home.
LoL. If it is hit to any part of the OF, wouldn't Barrero score anyway?
And he'd have scored on that ball even if there was a LF there to make the catch.
Yeah, that's my point. But it is curious how they didn't play him to pull because that's what he does...
I thought the exact same thing and laughed out loud when NADO did what NADO does, pull the ball.

D. Roberts isn't the brightest manager, you'd think all the times they've seen NADO from his Rockies days they'd know he's a dead pull hitter.
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