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Re: Blues Have Leverage To Offer Sheet Certain RFAs

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a smell of green grass wrote: 04 Jun 2025 11:08 am
DawgDad wrote: 04 Jun 2025 10:50 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 04 Jun 2025 06:14 am
DawgDad wrote: 04 Jun 2025 00:19 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:15 pm Take note, folks. These moves could be the ones that send the Blues down the wrong river for years. As Armstrong finds his man, will the ranking of the player among his peers be a factor? I ask because championships are won by having the best players on your team. If Army starts dressing Barbie with any old purse and shoes--because they're missing, then we have committed to mediocrity at that position for years. The Barbie is fully-dressed, but winning the beauty contest is impossible. The only benefit of that Barbie is ticket sales.
Take note everyone, trades are risky. The 66 point center? Nah, he didn't rank well among his peers. Hard pass.

Oh, and don't bother signing the 43 point center or the 43 point winger because those guys will just ensure more mediocrity. The 66 point wing? The one with those ugly Barbie shoes you threw out with the trash? Not again, please!
To summarize DawgDad…
Trades are risky. If it doesn’t work out, don’t blame Army. Blame yourself for expecting anything. However, if it does work out, glorify Army.
Mediocrity is better than a slightly-naked Barbie.
When I was young there was no professional hockey in town (KC at that time), so I was a baseball fan. The hometown team famously traded ALL of their good players to the Yankees, whoever the Yankees needed, every year. Roger Maris, what a heartbreaker, what a life lesson for a young kid. I won't lie, it was hard coming to terms with the notion your hometown team was destined to lose, finish last, your heroes here today gone tomorrow. Guaranteed.

Later we moved to St. Louis. Not long after there was a big trade. BIG trade. Ace pitcher shipped to the hated Cubs. Traded away, for . . . who? People everywhere scratching their heads, questioning the GM's sanity. Didn't bother me one bit, I had come to terms with how professional sports works.

Pull for your team, cheer for the players, but don't fall in love with them unless you're prepared for heartbreak. Do you fall in love with your plumber? No, you appreciate his skill and efforts. These guys are the plumbers of our sports passion. Celebrate when they win, come to terms when they lose. Never fear for the future, relish in the anticipation of what may come next. Some will succeed, some will fail, some get hurt, some get traded, some walk away. Some miss the empty net. We are spectators, it's all out of our contriol. Fear not, the worm will turn. The worm IS turning.
I've had a football team stolen from my city twice. If the team in your city can't operate LIKE EVERY OTHER ONE, and if that team doesn't provide the same excitement to their fans LIKE EVERY OTHER ONE, demand better. If not, be prepared to get the scraps forever.

Other NHL cities get young Stan Musials and Wayne Gretzkys. St louis doesn't. We get the gang that can't find the net in Winnipeg.
The Blues scored 3.86 goals/game against Winnipeg, quite a bit more than Winnipeg scored against us actually. Finding the net against WPG wasn’t the problem..

Only the Panthers, Oilers and Kings have a higher goals/game this postseason.
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Re: Blues Have Leverage To Offer Sheet Certain RFAs

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Yeah, St. Louis never gets the Stan Musials, excellent point
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STL fan in MN wrote: 04 Jun 2025 12:16 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 04 Jun 2025 11:08 am
DawgDad wrote: 04 Jun 2025 10:50 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 04 Jun 2025 06:14 am
DawgDad wrote: 04 Jun 2025 00:19 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:15 pm Take note, folks. These moves could be the ones that send the Blues down the wrong river for years. As Armstrong finds his man, will the ranking of the player among his peers be a factor? I ask because championships are won by having the best players on your team. If Army starts dressing Barbie with any old purse and shoes--because they're missing, then we have committed to mediocrity at that position for years. The Barbie is fully-dressed, but winning the beauty contest is impossible. The only benefit of that Barbie is ticket sales.
Take note everyone, trades are risky. The 66 point center? Nah, he didn't rank well among his peers. Hard pass.

Oh, and don't bother signing the 43 point center or the 43 point winger because those guys will just ensure more mediocrity. The 66 point wing? The one with those ugly Barbie shoes you threw out with the trash? Not again, please!
To summarize DawgDad…
Trades are risky. If it doesn’t work out, don’t blame Army. Blame yourself for expecting anything. However, if it does work out, glorify Army.
Mediocrity is better than a slightly-naked Barbie.
When I was young there was no professional hockey in town (KC at that time), so I was a baseball fan. The hometown team famously traded ALL of their good players to the Yankees, whoever the Yankees needed, every year. Roger Maris, what a heartbreaker, what a life lesson for a young kid. I won't lie, it was hard coming to terms with the notion your hometown team was destined to lose, finish last, your heroes here today gone tomorrow. Guaranteed.

Later we moved to St. Louis. Not long after there was a big trade. BIG trade. Ace pitcher shipped to the hated Cubs. Traded away, for . . . who? People everywhere scratching their heads, questioning the GM's sanity. Didn't bother me one bit, I had come to terms with how professional sports works.

Pull for your team, cheer for the players, but don't fall in love with them unless you're prepared for heartbreak. Do you fall in love with your plumber? No, you appreciate his skill and efforts. These guys are the plumbers of our sports passion. Celebrate when they win, come to terms when they lose. Never fear for the future, relish in the anticipation of what may come next. Some will succeed, some will fail, some get hurt, some get traded, some walk away. Some miss the empty net. We are spectators, it's all out of our contriol. Fear not, the worm will turn. The worm IS turning.
I've had a football team stolen from my city twice. If the team in your city can't operate LIKE EVERY OTHER ONE, and if that team doesn't provide the same excitement to their fans LIKE EVERY OTHER ONE, demand better. If not, be prepared to get the scraps forever.

Other NHL cities get young Stan Musials and Wayne Gretzkys. St louis doesn't. We get the gang that can't find the net in Winnipeg.
The Blues scored 3.86 goals/game against Winnipeg, quite a bit more than Winnipeg scored against us actually. Finding the net against WPG wasn’t the problem..

Only the Panthers, Oilers and Kings have a higher goals/game this postseason.
Im talking about our line 1 players when at Winnipeg. It’s like Army has said, our best players are not consistent. They go silent at the worst times, eg Game 7 in Winnipeg.
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Re: Blues Have Leverage To Offer Sheet Certain RFAs

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DawgDad wrote: 04 Jun 2025 11:54 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 04 Jun 2025 11:08 am
DawgDad wrote: 04 Jun 2025 10:50 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 04 Jun 2025 06:14 am
DawgDad wrote: 04 Jun 2025 00:19 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:15 pm Take note, folks. These moves could be the ones that send the Blues down the wrong river for years. As Armstrong finds his man, will the ranking of the player among his peers be a factor? I ask because championships are won by having the best players on your team. If Army starts dressing Barbie with any old purse and shoes--because they're missing, then we have committed to mediocrity at that position for years. The Barbie is fully-dressed, but winning the beauty contest is impossible. The only benefit of that Barbie is ticket sales.
Take note everyone, trades are risky. The 66 point center? Nah, he didn't rank well among his peers. Hard pass.

Oh, and don't bother signing the 43 point center or the 43 point winger because those guys will just ensure more mediocrity. The 66 point wing? The one with those ugly Barbie shoes you threw out with the trash? Not again, please!
To summarize DawgDad…
Trades are risky. If it doesn’t work out, don’t blame Army. Blame yourself for expecting anything. However, if it does work out, glorify Army.
Mediocrity is better than a slightly-naked Barbie.
When I was young there was no professional hockey in town (KC at that time), so I was a baseball fan. The hometown team famously traded ALL of their good players to the Yankees, whoever the Yankees needed, every year. Roger Maris, what a heartbreaker, what a life lesson for a young kid. I won't lie, it was hard coming to terms with the notion your hometown team was destined to lose, finish last, your heroes here today gone tomorrow. Guaranteed.

Later we moved to St. Louis. Not long after there was a big trade. BIG trade. Ace pitcher shipped to the hated Cubs. Traded away, for . . . who? People everywhere scratching their heads, questioning the GM's sanity. Didn't bother me one bit, I had come to terms with how professional sports works.

Pull for your team, cheer for the players, but don't fall in love with them unless you're prepared for heartbreak. Do you fall in love with your plumber? No, you appreciate his skill and efforts. These guys are the plumbers of our sports passion. Celebrate when they win, come to terms when they lose. Never fear for the future, relish in the anticipation of what may come next. Some will succeed, some will fail, some get hurt, some get traded, some walk away. Some miss the empty net. We are spectators, it's all out of our contriol. Fear not, the worm will turn. The worm IS turning.
I've had a football team stolen from my city twice. If the team in your city can't operate LIKE EVERY OTHER ONE, and if that team doesn't provide the same excitement to their fans LIKE EVERY OTHER ONE, demand better. If not, be prepared to get the scraps forever.

Other NHL cities get young Stan Musials and Wayne Gretzkys. St louis doesn't. We get the gang that can't find the net in Winnipeg.
I grew up a Big Red fan. I followed Johnny Roland at Mizzou and into the NFL. I attended games. My parents were season ticket holders. After the Big Red left they bought tickets to all those annual exhibition games to keep their names on "the list" for the next team. They got scammed, 100%. One day I had tickets for the Rams in the AT&T suite. Got invited over into Georgia Fs box. Met Lou Brock in person. Tried to explain to my son who he was, settled on "he was Ozzie when I was growing up". I came away sad, I could see that team wasn't part of the local fabric. It wasn't "our" team, St. Louis was their parking lot. It was only a matter of time. Without Bidwill I couldn't have seen that.
The most scary thing…. Kroenke is an NHL owner. Trust nothing. Question everything.
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Why do people keep wanting to draft Stan Musial? He was a baseball player. This is a hockey forum.
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callitwhatyouwant wrote: 04 Jun 2025 15:01 pm Why do people keep wanting to draft Stan Musial? He was a baseball player. This is a hockey forum.
I a nutshell, because Brett Hull wasn't a top-5 pick. He wasn't even top-5 in rounds!
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seattleblue wrote: 04 Jun 2025 12:23 pm Yeah, St. Louis never gets the Stan Musials, excellent point
The Blues in particular are famous for never having a guy like Wayne Gretzky.
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