Utah looking for a young top 6 winger for their 4th OA

[Janssen]

Kyrou, if one of the top centers is still on the board? Not sure who adds here. Then take JK’s $$, trade Faulk and sign Marner!

[netboy65]

Not making a deal of that magnitude within the division

[Zizzle1297]

Kesslering and Hayton and a 2nd for Kryou

[smilinjoefission]

I'd make a Kyrou for #4 overall in a second, but I'm guessing they'd want someone younger and better...imagine having someone like Thomas mentoring someone like Hagens or Frondell or Desnoyers.

[seattleblue]

They would probably ask for Snuggy for the 4th overall pick, maybe even Holloway.

If you could do it for either Kyrou (straight across) or Bolduc (Blues add a bit) as the main winger piece then I would be 100% interested. I would want Desnoyers then Frondell then Hagens, and one of Desnoyers or Frondell would be automatically available since Schaefer and Misa will be the first two picks.

[Younghopp1991]

They would probably ask for Snuggy for the 4th overall pick, maybe even Holloway.

If you could do it for either Kyrou (straight across) or Bolduc (Blues add a bit) as the main winger piece then I would be 100% interested. I would want Desnoyers then Frondell then Hagens, and one of Desnoyers or Frondell would be automatically available since Schaefer and Misa will be the first two picks.

Honestly kyrou is one of my favorite players and i do this all day. Side question, what would be a adequate add if it were bolduc? Would bolduc and a first swap be too much on our end or not enough?

Last question is what timelines do you see on both to be regulars in the nhl for a team that needs a center now, but understands rushing young talent isnt tge way. Thanks in advance

[STL fan in MN]

From an asset value standpoint, I could understand it but where the Blues are at, they need to be building the current roster, not taking away from it to gain another 17/18 yr old.

Bolduc + a prospect? I’d do that but Utah wouldn’t.

Kyrou was top-5 in the league in 5 on 5 goals, correct? I don’t think some fans truly appreciate what we’d be removing from our roster if we traded him away.

[Backesdraft]

From an asset value standpoint, I could understand it but where the Blues are at, they need to be building the current roster, not taking away from it to gain another 17/18 yr old.

Bolduc + a prospect? I’d do that but Utah wouldn’t.

Kyrou was top-5 in the league in 5 on 5 goals, correct? I don’t think some fans truly appreciate would we’d be removing from our roster if we traded him away.

I’m not sure you want to trade a possible 40 goal scorer for a pick, even a high draft pick. The Blues to build more AROUND Kyrou, not trade him for parts.

[somni]

From an asset value standpoint, I could understand it but where the Blues are at, they need to be building the current roster, not taking away from it to gain another 17/18 yr old.

Bolduc + a prospect? I’d do that but Utah wouldn’t.

Kyrou was top-5 in the league in 5 on 5 goals, correct? I don’t think some fans truly appreciate what we’d be removing from our roster if we traded him away.

Yeah, if I'm trading Kyrou it's for a current roster player that fills a need or type (enter the obligatory Brady Tkachuk comment here). It would be hard to replace Kyrou's scoring if he's removed without a direct replacement. And I'm someone who was always more than willing ready to trade him.

[IsDurbanodoingtime]

From an asset value standpoint, I could understand it but where the Blues are at, they need to be building the current roster, not taking away from it to gain another 17/18 yr old.

Bolduc + a prospect? I’d do that but Utah wouldn’t.

Kyrou was top-5 in the league in 5 on 5 goals, correct? I don’t think some fans truly appreciate what we’d be removing from our roster if we traded him away.

Yeah, if I'm trading Kyrou it's for a current roster player that fills a need or type (enter the obligatory Brady Tkachuk comment here). It would be hard to replace Kyrou's scoring if he's removed without a direct replacement. And I'm someone who was always more than willing ready to trade him.

yes. Kyrou is our poor man's version of Marner. He might not be the playoff guy (at least yet) but you need his regular season production at a minimum to get into the post-season. Trading him necessitates replacing his production or it's one step forward 1.5 steps back. Certainly not a 5 percent increase.

[Harry S Deals]

Frondell would look good with Thomas and Dvorsky long term, wow

[tfriede2]

Not a chance - I’m not trading a 30 goal 70+ point player for a guy who might eclipse 70 points 4 years from now, if he’s lucky. Take a look at the players drafted 3-5 over the last several years. Few make a big impact in the first couple of years (and if they do eventually “hit,” you’re probably looking at a player with similar totals to Kyrou) and others are either bottom 6 players or struggling to stay in the NHL. Too big of a gamble.

[skilles]

From an asset value standpoint, I could understand it but where the Blues are at, they need to be building the current roster, not taking away from it to gain another 17/18 yr old.

Bolduc + a prospect? I’d do that but Utah wouldn’t.

Kyrou was top-5 in the league in 5 on 5 goals, correct? I don’t think some fans truly appreciate what we’d be removing from our roster if we traded him away.

If Kyrou was LW I'm all over it. Being RW makes it a tough call but I still think I do it. 4th OA is a pretty big deal.

Would be some sleepless nights if I actually had to make that call for sure.

[dr0zombie]

Outside of the top 1 to maybe 3, most players are a lot closer in potential than people are thinking. We could maybe to better with a 4th overall. Just in looking at a redraft from the 2016 year we can see that at least half of the players picked the top 10 did not pan out to be top players in the NHL. You can presume the Blues can pick well lower in the draft given their history. Granted if we keep using 2016 as an example, they would have taken Matthew Tkachuk.... so.... Even at 4th there is no guarantee of getting a better player than Kyrou.


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[zamadoo]

My first question is who can offer better than Kyrou? - We might be able to get more than their #4 OA for him.

It's almost a perfect scenario if the Blues are interested considering his NTC clause kicks in after the draft.

Another wild consideration would be a 3-way trade where we get back a significant roster player and the other team takes the pick (or I guess we could just try to flip it).

If we get to a situation where it's draft day and Desnoyers is there, I'd pull the trigger. Maybe there's someone else the Blues really like there.

[stlblues1979]

This is a very interesting topic & makes for a great discussion. We know if this trade were to occur, the Blues are a picking a center. There is no RHD in this draft that warrants the #4 pick, correct? So we're talking Frondell or Desnoyers. What is the expectation of them? #2 C for sure and possible /probable #1 C? Then the next question is how close to NHL ready are they. Are we talking 2 years or 4 years? And I understand no one can know that for sure.

Seems like everyone talks about how hard it is to get quality centers & with our surplus of wingers???? I don't know. I see both sides, but might be leaning to making that deal. Especially when that frees up $8 million.