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Tink Hence

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Got a start with FCL cardinals today and only pitched one inning. Not sure what to make of it. Went 2.1 5 days ago with palm beach.
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It could very well turn out that an inning or two at a time may be what his workload turns out to be.
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I've been saying it now for two years.

MAKE HIM A CLOSER!

Helsey is gone no later than seasons end.

Hence has an elite upper 90's fastball and a great changeup, he's got a D. Williams like makeup.

CLOSER is his future, not starter since he can't stay healthy handling that kind of a load.
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He might end up a closer but doubt they decide that at 22. PMB and FCL are both Roger Dean so guess it makes some sense to get him today on 5 days rest.
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On another note, Rainiel Rodriguez is 1 for 4 with a double in the game.
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rockondlouie wrote: 02 Jun 2025 12:37 pm I've been saying it now for two years.

MAKE HIM A CLOSER!

Helsey is gone no later than seasons end.

Hence has an elite upper 90's fastball and a great changeup, he's got a D. Williams like makeup.

CLOSER is his future, not starter since he can't stay healthy handling that kind of a load.
Hence needs to have a conversation with Steve Carlton about how to improve his strength and his motion. I remember seeing Carlton in the dugout with a barrel of sand and he would work his pitching hand down into that sand to the bottom.

I saw a video of Goose Gossage who said today's pitchers are doing what a computer tells them to do instead of having a full windup and that's a reason for all the injuries.
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ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Jun 2025 13:18 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 02 Jun 2025 12:37 pm I've been saying it now for two years.

MAKE HIM A CLOSER!

Helsey is gone no later than seasons end.

Hence has an elite upper 90's fastball and a great changeup, he's got a D. Williams like makeup.

CLOSER is his future, not starter since he can't stay healthy handling that kind of a load.
Hence needs to have a conversation with Steve Carlton about how to improve his strength and his motion. I remember seeing Carlton in the dugout with a barrel of sand and he would work his pitching hand down into that sand to the bottom.

I saw a video of Goose Gossage who said today's pitchers are doing what a computer tells them to do instead of having a full windup and that's a reason for all the injuries.
Bucket of rice for Carlton.
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ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Jun 2025 13:18 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 02 Jun 2025 12:37 pm I've been saying it now for two years.

MAKE HIM A CLOSER!

Helsey is gone no later than seasons end.

Hence has an elite upper 90's fastball and a great changeup, he's got a D. Williams like makeup.

CLOSER is his future, not starter since he can't stay healthy handling that kind of a load.
Hence needs to have a conversation with Steve Carlton about how to improve his strength and his motion. I remember seeing Carlton in the dugout with a barrel of sand and he would work his pitching hand down into that sand to the bottom.

I saw a video of Goose Gossage who said today's pitchers are doing what a computer tells them to do instead of having a full windup and that's a reason for all the injuries.
I remember that too but it actually was rice SM, not sand.

I tried it in college, here's how it works:

https://rosstraining.com/blog/2010/09/h ... ce-bucket/
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Can someone please explain why we see so many threads here about Tink Hence? Would any of them appear were his first name Bob?
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Pink Freud wrote: 02 Jun 2025 14:04 pm Can someone please explain why we see so many threads here about Tink Hence? Would any of them appear were his first name Bob?
People already tried to explain it to you before.

He had a 2.71 ERA with a 12.3 K/9 ratio last year in AA and a career 3.23 ERA with a 11.5 K/9 ratio in the minors. He’s been a top 100 prospect for 3 straight years by all prospect sources. And has been to the Futures game twice.

And it has nothing to do with his name being Tink.
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ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Jun 2025 13:18 pm
I saw a video of Goose Gossage who said today's pitchers are doing what a computer tells them to do instead of having a full windup and that's a reason for all the injuries.
Today's pitchers attend highly-touted "pitching labs" with computerized depictions of their body, arm motions, and maximum torque. Decades ago pitching coaches got away from full windups because there were too many moving parts to precisely and exactly repeat with every pitch, as more attention was paid to location than velocity. Obviously, that pendulum has swung back, but now with more compact deliveries.

But that's one reason I always enjoy seeing Jack Flaherty pitch, because it is an old-fashioned windup that seems to permit a free 'n easy delivery maximizing his hips and legs to provide the power, which is why Nolan Ryan was able to throw bullets for 26 years, and how catcher Norm Sherry instructed Sandy Koufax to go from a flamethrowing wild man to the best pitcher I ever saw over four straight seasons.

I was such a pitching geek in my youth that for my games at Hickey Park in the Baden Youth Association, I adopted dozens of MLB pitchers' windups I'd seen on TV; some of them were better for fastballs (Gibson, Maloney, McLain) ; some for breaking pitches (Radatz, Lonborg, Bunning). I kept the same gig up into my late 40s for fuzzball games with friends, using Derek Lowe's windup and delivery for killer sliders, sinkers, and cut fastballs.
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Pink Freud wrote: 02 Jun 2025 14:20 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Jun 2025 13:18 pm
I saw a video of Goose Gossage who said today's pitchers are doing what a computer tells them to do instead of having a full windup and that's a reason for all the injuries.
Today's pitchers attend highly-touted "pitching labs" with computerized depictions of their body, arm motions, and maximum torque. Decades ago pitching coaches got away from full windups because there were too many moving parts to precisely and exactly repeat with every pitch, as more attention was paid to location than velocity. Obviously, that pendulum has swung back, but now with more compact deliveries.

But that's one reason I always enjoy seeing Jack Flaherty pitch, because it is an old-fashioned windup that seems to permit a free 'n easy delivery maximizing his hips and legs to provide the power, which is why Nolan Ryan was able to throw bullets for 26 years, and how catcher Norm Sherry instructed Sandy Koufax to go from a flamethrowing wild man to the best pitcher I ever saw over four straight seasons.

I was such a pitching geek in my youth that for my games at Hickey Park in the Baden Youth Association, I adopted dozens of MLB pitchers' windups I'd seen on TV; some of them were better for fastballs (Gibson, Maloney, McLain) ; some for breaking pitches (Radatz, Lonborg, Bunning). I kept the same gig up into my late 40s for fuzzball games with friends, using Derek Lowe's windup and delivery for killer sliders, sinkers, and cut fastballs.
Good for you. I used to live in that area and drove past Hickey Park on my way to and from work. Wouldn't live there now if you paid me but at one time that was a nice area.
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rockondlouie wrote: 02 Jun 2025 13:48 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Jun 2025 13:18 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 02 Jun 2025 12:37 pm I've been saying it now for two years.

MAKE HIM A CLOSER!

Helsey is gone no later than seasons end.

Hence has an elite upper 90's fastball and a great changeup, he's got a D. Williams like makeup.

CLOSER is his future, not starter since he can't stay healthy handling that kind of a load.
Hence needs to have a conversation with Steve Carlton about how to improve his strength and his motion. I remember seeing Carlton in the dugout with a barrel of sand and he would work his pitching hand down into that sand to the bottom.

I saw a video of Goose Gossage who said today's pitchers are doing what a computer tells them to do instead of having a full windup and that's a reason for all the injuries.
I remember that too but it actually was rice SM, not sand.

I tried it in college, here's how it works:

https://rosstraining.com/blog/2010/09/h ... ce-bucket/
Cool. Brown rice or white?
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ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Jun 2025 14:50 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 02 Jun 2025 13:48 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Jun 2025 13:18 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 02 Jun 2025 12:37 pm I've been saying it now for two years.

MAKE HIM A CLOSER!

Helsey is gone no later than seasons end.

Hence has an elite upper 90's fastball and a great changeup, he's got a D. Williams like makeup.

CLOSER is his future, not starter since he can't stay healthy handling that kind of a load.
Hence needs to have a conversation with Steve Carlton about how to improve his strength and his motion. I remember seeing Carlton in the dugout with a barrel of sand and he would work his pitching hand down into that sand to the bottom.

I saw a video of Goose Gossage who said today's pitchers are doing what a computer tells them to do instead of having a full windup and that's a reason for all the injuries.
I remember that too but it actually was rice SM, not sand.

I tried it in college, here's how it works:

https://rosstraining.com/blog/2010/09/h ... ce-bucket/
Cool. Brown rice or white?
depends on if you look at the rice before you stick your hand in it? :mrgreen:
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 02 Jun 2025 12:34 pm It could very well turn out that an inning or two at a time may be what his workload turns out to be.
Maybe the referenced outing is the beginning of Hence's one inning per appearance career. Let's see how he responds.
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tyoung12290 wrote: 02 Jun 2025 12:29 pm Got a start with FCL cardinals today and only pitched one inning. Not sure what to make of it. Went 2.1 5 days ago with palm beach.
They are taking too long to move him to the bullpen.
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