Marner to Vegas?

[theograce]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx2jI7WKr ... NlIHNjcnVt

[bluetunehead]

Next time just post the Seravalli tweet not this fanboy video nonsense lol.

[dhsux]

Next time just post the Seravalli tweet not this fanboy video nonsense lol.

You wanna see fanboy just wait til he picks his faves for next year.

Forget the Blues. That's always out.

There's always 3 or 4 through the mid season point so he can have his default pick fave as his winner.

It's like clock work. It means to him he's a winner.

Have you ever seen him pick a struggling team or a bubble team a fave?

And you never will.

[BudOnTap]

Next time just post the Seravalli tweet not this fanboy video nonsense lol.

You wanna see fanboy just wait til he picks his faves for next year.

Forget the Blue. That's always out.

There's always 3 or 4 through the mid season point so he can have his default pick fave as his winner.

It's like clock work. It means to him he's a winner.

Have you ever seen him pick a struggling team or a bubble team a fave?

And you never will.

*slow clap*

And that video is a great example of what I imagine this twerp spends every day watching, while chugging Mountain Dew and killing bags of cheese puffs.

[noted]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx2jI7WKr ... NlIHNjcnVt

Yup - the sign and trade is going to be for Petro

[theograce]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx2jI7WKr ... NlIHNjcnVt

Yup - the sign and trade is going to be for Petro

If Petro wants/agrees to. I’d like to see him in Toronto

[SameOldBlues]

The goofs on 101 ESPN actually had a good idea for once..

With the Knights bein interested in Marner, they need to shed salary, so we could take Nic Roy off their hands and solve our #3 center problem at least.

We could do alot worse than a 28 yr old 6’4” center who has some offense and only makes 3 mil.

[STL fan in MN]

The goofs on 101 ESPN actually had a good idea for once..

With the Knights bein interested in Marner, they need to shed salary, so we could take Nic Roy off their hands and solve our #3 center problem at least.

We could do alot worse than a 28 yr old 6’4” center who has some offense and only makes 3 mil.

Agree we could do worse but tbh, I’m hoping we could do better. He’s good for about 30-35 pts. So better than Sunny offensively but not by a ton. But brings good size. And like Karlsson, who I mentioned in another thread, Roy should be able to be had for cheap assuming Vegas goes big game hunting as expected.

But this would be a bit of a bargain bin move IMO. I’m hopefully they can add someone better.

[Cahokanut]

Depending on what Toronto can get in return.(Petro, picks)This is one of those good for each sides trades.

Thumbs up.

[skilles]

The goofs on 101 ESPN actually had a good idea for once..

With the Knights bein interested in Marner, they need to shed salary, so we could take Nic Roy off their hands and solve our #3 center problem at least.

We could do alot worse than a 28 yr old 6’4” center who has some offense and only makes 3 mil.

I think we look for older but better, looking at guys in the Parayko, Faulk, Fowler, schenn age range nearing the end of their contracts. Seguin, ROR etc. or possibly UFA Tavares, Duchene etc.

That is a market we should be competitive in, when it comes to long term or guys in their prime I just don't see how we justify competing in that market already having Thomas, Schenn, and Dvo. Other teams will want that more than we can justify unless for some reason one of them wants to play in STL specifically.

[TheHighHat]

The presumable re-signing of Jack Eichel is the first domino that needs to fall.
I'm assuming Vegas knows if it's a done deal or not.

I actually think Vegas is going to shop Hertl instead of Karlsson or Roy.
Hertl has disappointed in both of his playoffs with Vegas.
I've always considered Karlsson the soul of the Knights. His health and age are the concerns.

We all know many teams desperately need a 2C upgrade. Hertl fits that bill.
The problem is that he'll be 32 early into the new season and has 5 years left.
The good news is that since San Jose is footing some of the bill, Hertl's cap hit is only 6.75. That's not bad for a 2C.
Hertl of course does have a NMC though.

If Hertl is traded, the Knights can move Roy and Howden back to center full time leaving them with:
Eichel
Karlsson
Roy
Howden

The problem with signing Marner is that he is a playmaker and not a goal scorer. Vegas needs a sniper.
Having Marner and Stone as your top 2 RW would make other teams envious, but that is a lot of money being spent on 2 wingers that are considered more playmaking two way wingers rather than goals scorers. Stone just doesn't get many SOG and never has.

Is Dorofeyev a legit scoring winger going forward or a one hit wonder?

Vegas also needs to freshen up their bottom 3 d-men with a swifter puck moving type.

Always expect the unexpected from Vegas, but I don't see a sign and trade for Marner.
Just wait for July 1st instead of giving up assets if you want him.

[skilles]

The presumable re-signing of Jack Eichel is the first domino that needs to fall.
I'm assuming Vegas knows if it's a done deal or not.

I actually think Vegas is going to shop Hertl instead of Karlsson or Roy.
Hertl has disappointed in both of his playoffs with Vegas.
I've always considered Karlsson the soul of the Knights. His health and age are the concerns.

We all know many teams desperately need a 2C upgrade. Hertl fits that bill.
The problem is that he'll be 32 early into the new season and has 5 years left.
The good news is that since San Jose is footing some of the bill, Hertl's cap hit is only 6.75. That's not bad for a 2C.
Hertl of course does have a NMC though.

If Hertl is traded, the Knights can move Roy and Howden back to center full time leaving them with:
Eichel
Karlsson
Roy
Howden

The problem with signing Marner is that he is a playmaker and not a goal scorer. Vegas needs a sniper.
Having Marner and Stone as your top 2 RW would make other teams envious, but that is a lot of money being spent on 2 wingers that are considered more playmaking two way wingers rather than goals scorers. Stone just doesn't get many SOG and never has.

Is Dorofeyev a legit scoring winger going forward or a one hit wonder?

Vegas also needs to freshen up their bottom 3 d-men with a swifter puck moving type.

Always expect the unexpected from Vegas, but I don't see a sign and trade for Marner.
Just wait for July 1st instead of giving up assets if you want him.

I think the idea of a sign and trade is the salary going the other way but I'm not convinced Vegas is going after Marner anyway.

[bluetunehead]

The presumable re-signing of Jack Eichel is the first domino that needs to fall.
I'm assuming Vegas knows if it's a done deal or not.

I actually think Vegas is going to shop Hertl instead of Karlsson or Roy.
Hertl has disappointed in both of his playoffs with Vegas.
I've always considered Karlsson the soul of the Knights. His health and age are the concerns.

We all know many teams desperately need a 2C upgrade. Hertl fits that bill.
The problem is that he'll be 32 early into the new season and has 5 years left.
The good news is that since San Jose is footing some of the bill, Hertl's cap hit is only 6.75. That's not bad for a 2C.
Hertl of course does have a NMC though.

If Hertl is traded, the Knights can move Roy and Howden back to center full time leaving them with:
Eichel
Karlsson
Roy
Howden

The problem with signing Marner is that he is a playmaker and not a goal scorer. Vegas needs a sniper.
Having Marner and Stone as your top 2 RW would make other teams envious, but that is a lot of money being spent on 2 wingers that are considered more playmaking two way wingers rather than goals scorers. Stone just doesn't get many SOG and never has.

Is Dorofeyev a legit scoring winger going forward or a one hit wonder?

Vegas also needs to freshen up their bottom 3 d-men with a swifter puck moving type.

Always expect the unexpected from Vegas, but I don't see a sign and trade for Marner.
Just wait for July 1st instead of giving up assets if you want him.

Hertl has a 3-team trade list for the next two seasons, so it’s highly unlikely he wants to go anywhere unless he’s unhappy with Vegas.

[thegibby.]

It's Utah I tell you; the Mammoth!


..and the NHL wants him to land there.

[TheHighHat]

@ skilles & BTH

Obviously the only way Toronto would take back salary if it was a useful player at a fair cap hit.
It can be argued that Roy as the Leafs 3RW would be a fit because the Leafs do need to upgrade their bottom 6 but at 3 per I find it doubtful.

It seems that Tavares is coming back unless they land Bennett so they need to find a RW to replace Marner.

I find it interesting that you never hear of the Leafs upgrading their goaltending or d corps.

Stolarz is 31 and has never even played half the games in a season, yet they're counting on him to lead the way?
Playing well recently as a career backup in the regular season is one thing; being the man in the playoffs is another.
Joe Woll flashes promise and finally played 40+ this year but can he stay healthy and be the #1?

Maybe the Leafs are correct to think they're set in goal since there aren't many proven consistent stud goalies that can be counted on year after year in this current era.

I realize that the Leafs top 6 d-men are all under contract for at least 2 more years and offer good size and experience, but they can be hemmed into their own zone and are not that fleet of foot.
Can you win a Cup with your top 4 being Rielly, McCabe, Tanev, and OEL? I say no.

From the Knights POV they need to recoup some assets if they trade good players so they can flip them at the next TDL for other help.

I mentioned that Hertl had a NMC. Most big money guys do.
You never know until you ask.
He might be the Jeff O'Neill type if asked to be traded or he might utilize that clause to stay in Vegas regardless of sweeteners.

If Vegas truly wants Marner they're going to have to unload more salary than those of Karlsson or Roy.
Hertl makes more & would be coveted by many teams like Carolina, Colorado, Winnipeg, and Montreal that need a legit 2C.
The Knights won their Cup without him.

All fun conjecture.

[TheJackBurton]

@ skilles & BTH

Obviously the only way Toronto would take back salary if it was a useful player at a fair cap hit.
It can be argued that Roy as the Leafs 3RW would be a fit because the Leafs do need to upgrade their bottom 6 but at 3 per I find it doubtful.

It seems that Tavares is coming back unless they land Bennett so they need to find a RW to replace Marner.

I find it interesting that you never hear of the Leafs upgrading their goaltending or d corps.

Stolarz is 31 and has never even played half the games in a season, yet they're counting on him to lead the way?
Playing well recently as a career backup in the regular season is one thing; being the man in the playoffs is another.
Joe Woll flashes promise and finally played 40+ this year but can he stay healthy and be the #1?

Maybe the Leafs are correct to think they're set in goal since there aren't many proven consistent stud goalies that can be counted on year after year in this current era.

I realize that the Leafs top 6 d-men are all under contract for at least 2 more years and offer good size and experience, but they can be hemmed into their own zone and are not that fleet of foot.
Can you win a Cup with your top 4 being Rielly, McCabe, Tanev, and OEL? I say no.

From the Knights POV they need to recoup some assets if they trade good players so they can flip them at the next TDL for other help.

I mentioned that Hertl had a NMC. Most big money guys do.
You never know until you ask.
He might be the Jeff O'Neill type if asked to be traded or he might utilize that clause to stay in Vegas regardless of sweeteners.

If Vegas truly wants Marner they're going to have to unload more salary than those of Karlsson or Roy.
Hertl makes more & would be coveted by many teams like Carolina, Colorado, Winnipeg, and Montreal that need a legit 2C.
The Knights won their Cup without him.

All fun conjecture.

The thought process is sign Marner then execute a trade with Vegas with Pietrangelo going the other way. They will likely still be about 4 million over the cap so Vegas might be inclined to send a Nick Roy as well.

I sincerely hope Vegas does this. Locking up 10+ million in Marner and Eichel, and 9.5 in Mark Stone is going to lead for some very longgggggggggggggggggg seasons. By that I mean, they'll have a few winning seasons, a few losing seasons, but they likely just settle into a .500 club because the defense and goaltending will be below average and won't have any signs of getting better as they have don't have a 1st rounder until 2027 and almost no prospects to speak of. Maybe they have a quality scouting team and they can consistently find gold in the later rounds (if I'm going to say the Blues can do it, so can other teams) but the odds also say that many of them won't have much of an impact.

The payment is finally coming due, and not much Gary and the NHL can do about it.