OldRed wrote: ↑29 May 2025 08:10 am
Burleson against right-handed pitching: .298 Avg., .343 OBP
Contreras against right-handed pitching: .234 Avg., .304 OBP
And it is 1/3 of the season.
May 13th:
Conteras: .763 OPS
Burleson: .662 OPS
May 29th
Conteras: .689 OPS
Burleson: .753 OPS
You don't make BIG platoon decisions that last 4 months based on two weeks of slump/hot streak.
Career wise, Burleson has been the better hitter for average and OBP. His season last year was as good as any Contreras has had his career and remember Contreras played in a hitter's park in Chicago. As shown last night and many other games this year Contreras is not producing. A platoon could be used in my opinion.
Burleson's career vs RHP: .271 BA / .753 OPS
Conteras' career vs RHP: .252 BA / .787 OPS
And WC was better vs RHP last year.
Maybe WC could use a day off, but a straight platoon? No way.
Also, I really like WC at 1B as a leader of the infield.
I would consider Donavon the leader with a close second to Winn. Just because Contreras is a vocal figure doesn't mean he is a leader. This team is revolving to the younger players which in my opinion has made the vast improvement in their play and record. Burleson is the future at 1st base, not Contreras. Again, just my opinion.
Burleson is a future in TBD. While 2024 was nice, it wasn't some amazing season.
And just two weeks ago, he was a huge odd man out with Herrera at DH and Contreras at 1B.
He has his .364 since 5/14, so there's a recency bias thing going on here.
There's a reason this OP wasn't written the first 7 weeks of the season.
OldRed wrote: ↑29 May 2025 08:10 am
Burleson against right-handed pitching: .298 Avg., .343 OBP
Contreras against right-handed pitching: .234 Avg., .304 OBP
And it is 1/3 of the season.
May 13th:
Conteras: .763 OPS
Burleson: .662 OPS
May 29th
Conteras: .689 OPS
Burleson: .753 OPS
You don't make BIG platoon decisions that last 4 months based on two weeks of slump/hot streak.
Career wise, Burleson has been the better hitter for average and OBP. His season last year was as good as any Contreras has had his career and remember Contreras played in a hitter's park in Chicago. As shown last night and many other games this year Contreras is not producing. A platoon could be used in my opinion.
Burleson's career vs RHP: .271 BA / .753 OPS
Conteras' career vs RHP: .252 BA / .787 OPS
And WC was better vs RHP last year.
Maybe WC could use a day off, but a straight platoon? No way.
Also, I really like WC at 1B as a leader of the infield.
I would consider Donavon the leader with a close second to Winn. Just because Contreras is a vocal figure doesn't mean he is a leader. This team is revolving to the younger players which in my opinion has made the vast improvement in their play and record. Burleson is the future at 1st base, not Contreras. Again, just my opinion.
Burleson is a future in TBD. While 2024 was nice, it wasn't some amazing season.
And just two weeks ago, he was a huge odd man out with Herrera at DH and Contreras at 1B.
He has his .364 since 5/14, so there's a recency bias thing going on here.
There's a reason this OP wasn't written the first 7 weeks of the season.
You just can't face the facts. Just look at the last season that Burleson had and compare it to any of the best season's Contreras has had including playing at Wrigley. And as far as from 5/14, it's because he has been playing more regularly. You watch in the coming weeks, and you will learn that Burleson will be getting more playing time at first.
OldRed wrote: ↑29 May 2025 08:10 am
Burleson against right-handed pitching: .298 Avg., .343 OBP
Contreras against right-handed pitching: .234 Avg., .304 OBP
And it is 1/3 of the season.
May 13th:
Conteras: .763 OPS
Burleson: .662 OPS
May 29th
Conteras: .689 OPS
Burleson: .753 OPS
You don't make BIG platoon decisions that last 4 months based on two weeks of slump/hot streak.
Career wise, Burleson has been the better hitter for average and OBP. His season last year was as good as any Contreras has had his career and remember Contreras played in a hitter's park in Chicago. As shown last night and many other games this year Contreras is not producing. A platoon could be used in my opinion.
Burleson's career vs RHP: .271 BA / .753 OPS
Conteras' career vs RHP: .252 BA / .787 OPS
And WC was better vs RHP last year.
Maybe WC could use a day off, but a straight platoon? No way.
Also, I really like WC at 1B as a leader of the infield.
I would consider Donavon the leader with a close second to Winn. Just because Contreras is a vocal figure doesn't mean he is a leader. This team is revolving to the younger players which in my opinion has made the vast improvement in their play and record. Burleson is the future at 1st base, not Contreras. Again, just my opinion.
Burleson is a future in TBD. While 2024 was nice, it wasn't some amazing season.
And just two weeks ago, he was a huge odd man out with Herrera at DH and Contreras at 1B.
He has his .364 since 5/14, so there's a recency bias thing going on here.
There's a reason this OP wasn't written the first 7 weeks of the season.
You just can't face the facts. Just look at the last season that Burleson had and compare it to any of the best season's Contreras has had including playing at Wrigley. And as far as from 5/14, it's because he has been playing more regularly. You watch in the coming weeks, and you will learn that Burleson will be getting more playing time at first.
WC has had about 4-6 better seasons than Burleson's 2024...
OldRed wrote: ↑29 May 2025 08:10 am
Burleson against right-handed pitching: .298 Avg., .343 OBP
Contreras against right-handed pitching: .234 Avg., .304 OBP
And it is 1/3 of the season.
May 13th:
Conteras: .763 OPS
Burleson: .662 OPS
May 29th
Conteras: .689 OPS
Burleson: .753 OPS
You don't make BIG platoon decisions that last 4 months based on two weeks of slump/hot streak.
Career wise, Burleson has been the better hitter for average and OBP. His season last year was as good as any Contreras has had his career and remember Contreras played in a hitter's park in Chicago. As shown last night and many other games this year Contreras is not producing. A platoon could be used in my opinion.
Burleson's career vs RHP: .271 BA / .753 OPS
Conteras' career vs RHP: .252 BA / .787 OPS
And WC was better vs RHP last year.
Maybe WC could use a day off, but a straight platoon? No way.
Also, I really like WC at 1B as a leader of the infield.
I would consider Donavon the leader with a close second to Winn. Just because Contreras is a vocal figure doesn't mean he is a leader. This team is revolving to the younger players which in my opinion has made the vast improvement in their play and record. Burleson is the future at 1st base, not Contreras. Again, just my opinion.
Burleson is a future in TBD. While 2024 was nice, it wasn't some amazing season.
And just two weeks ago, he was a huge odd man out with Herrera at DH and Contreras at 1B.
He has his .364 since 5/14, so there's a recency bias thing going on here.
There's a reason this OP wasn't written the first 7 weeks of the season.
You just can't face the facts. Just look at the last season that Burleson had and compare it to any of the best season's Contreras has had including playing at Wrigley. And as far as from 5/14, it's because he has been playing more regularly. You watch in the coming weeks, and you will learn that Burleson will be getting more playing time at first.
WC has had about 4-6 better seasons than Burleson's 2024...
OldRed wrote: ↑29 May 2025 08:10 am
Burleson against right-handed pitching: .298 Avg., .343 OBP
Contreras against right-handed pitching: .234 Avg., .304 OBP
And it is 1/3 of the season.
May 13th:
Conteras: .763 OPS
Burleson: .662 OPS
May 29th
Conteras: .689 OPS
Burleson: .753 OPS
You don't make BIG platoon decisions that last 4 months based on two weeks of slump/hot streak.
Career wise, Burleson has been the better hitter for average and OBP. His season last year was as good as any Contreras has had his career and remember Contreras played in a hitter's park in Chicago. As shown last night and many other games this year Contreras is not producing. A platoon could be used in my opinion.
Oh please, you can’t be that stupid.
Burleson had a .735 OPS and 104 OPS+ last year. Prior to this year that would have been Contreras’s 2nd worst season of his 9 year career. His worst was .730 with a 94 OPS+. The only season he had a sub .763 OPS/106 OPS+. With the Cardinals he has an .804 OPS and 121 OPS+.
OldRed wrote: ↑29 May 2025 08:10 am
Burleson against right-handed pitching: .298 Avg., .343 OBP
Contreras against right-handed pitching: .234 Avg., .304 OBP
And it is 1/3 of the season.
May 13th:
Conteras: .763 OPS
Burleson: .662 OPS
May 29th
Conteras: .689 OPS
Burleson: .753 OPS
You don't make BIG platoon decisions that last 4 months based on two weeks of slump/hot streak.
Career wise, Burleson has been the better hitter for average and OBP. His season last year was as good as any Contreras has had his career and remember Contreras played in a hitter's park in Chicago. As shown last night and many other games this year Contreras is not producing. A platoon could be used in my opinion.
OldRed wrote: ↑29 May 2025 08:10 am
Burleson against right-handed pitching: .298 Avg., .343 OBP
Contreras against right-handed pitching: .234 Avg., .304 OBP
And it is 1/3 of the season.
May 13th:
Conteras: .763 OPS
Burleson: .662 OPS
May 29th
Conteras: .689 OPS
Burleson: .753 OPS
You don't make BIG platoon decisions that last 4 months based on two weeks of slump/hot streak.
Career wise, Burleson has been the better hitter for average and OBP. His season last year was as good as any Contreras has had his career and remember Contreras played in a hitter's park in Chicago. As shown last night and many other games this year Contreras is not producing. A platoon could be used in my opinion.
Burleson's career vs RHP: .271 BA / .753 OPS
Conteras' career vs RHP: .252 BA / .787 OPS
And WC was better vs RHP last year.
Maybe WC could use a day off, but a straight platoon? No way.
Also, I really like WC at 1B as a leader of the infield.
I would consider Donavon the leader with a close second to Winn. Just because Contreras is a vocal figure doesn't mean he is a leader. This team is revolving to the younger players which in my opinion has made the vast improvement in their play and record. Burleson is the future at 1st base, not Contreras. Again, just my opinion.
Burleson is a future in TBD. While 2024 was nice, it wasn't some amazing season.
And just two weeks ago, he was a huge odd man out with Herrera at DH and Contreras at 1B.
He has his .364 since 5/14, so there's a recency bias thing going on here.
There's a reason this OP wasn't written the first 7 weeks of the season.
You just can't face the facts. Just look at the last season that Burleson had and compare it to any of the best season's Contreras has had including playing at Wrigley. And as far as from 5/14, it's because he has been playing more regularly. You watch in the coming weeks, and you will learn that Burleson will be getting more playing time at first.
WC has had about 4-6 better seasons than Burleson's 2024...
LMAO
When the facts don't support your argument, just laugh maniacally?
OldRed wrote: ↑29 May 2025 08:10 am
Burleson against right-handed pitching: .298 Avg., .343 OBP
Contreras against right-handed pitching: .234 Avg., .304 OBP
And it is 1/3 of the season.
Contreras started really really cold. He was on a hot streak for awhile until a little slump again. I think he will get hot again and finish with at least a .760 ops if not higher but i could be wrong.
OldRed wrote: ↑29 May 2025 08:10 am
Burleson against right-handed pitching: .298 Avg., .343 OBP
Contreras against right-handed pitching: .234 Avg., .304 OBP
And it is 1/3 of the season.
May 13th:
Conteras: .763 OPS
Burleson: .662 OPS
May 29th
Conteras: .689 OPS
Burleson: .753 OPS
You don't make BIG platoon decisions that last 4 months based on two weeks of slump/hot streak.
Career wise, Burleson has been the better hitter for average and OBP. His season last year was as good as any Contreras has had his career and remember Contreras played in a hitter's park in Chicago. As shown last night and many other games this year Contreras is not producing. A platoon could be used in my opinion.
Should consideration be given to WC NTC. You are effectively arguing Burleson as a capable first baseman. Maybe his real value to the team is to trade him.
Realistically, right now against RHP, it should be Herrera at clean up and Burleson at 5. Contreras 6 and Arenado 7. Considering most recent production, why shouldn't it?
Shady wrote: ↑29 May 2025 10:22 am
Realistically, right now against RHP, it should be Herrera at clean up and Burleson at 5. Contreras 6 and Arenado 7. Considering most recent production, why shouldn't it?
that's not realistic. Pitchers love and prefer throwing to Pages. Herrera at Catcher full time is the only way you get Herrera, Burley and Contreras in the same lineup, and that has to be against RHP. Herrera is your DH most of the time and he's not coming out of the lineup often. Burleson is part time vs. RHP and never against LHP.
