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edwin drood
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Joe Don Baker - also in the original Walking Tall. From one of my favorite films, with Redford and Robert Duvall in The Natural. Baker plays the Babe Ruth analog who's challenged by Redford's agent .

https://youtu.be/ELcUtHkmRVs?si=wxSik5ArSH0FX_f3
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The Natural is my favorite movie of all-time. When I was a kid, after watching it, I asked my baseball coach if we could add lightning bolts to our uniforms, which we did. It's a true classic.
Pop Fisher: You know my mama wanted me to be a farmer.
Roy Hobbs: My dad wanted me to be a baseball player.
Pop Fisher: Well you're better than any player I ever had. And you're the best [redacted] hitter I ever saw. Suit up.
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Yeah I have seen The Natural as much as any movie not called It's A Wonderful Life, so the Whammer is intrinsic. RIP

Check out Charley Varrick (1973) if you haven't seen it. Walter Matthau, great gritty western bank robbery film. Joe Don Baker is the guy tracking Matthau down. Good scenes at a low rent Nevada brothel
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It is hard to find any fault in The Natural. Granted it's a bit corny.. but from a film making aspect, it is incredibly good.

Cinematography? Check. The clip here is just one example. Dramatically lit. Excellent use of natural light.

Acting? Yep. Even the subtle performances are great. Duvall as the sleazy reporter .. Basinger and Hershey as the femme fatales in Roy's life.. His redemption in Iris ... Brimley, Farnsworth. An "A" list of talent. And don't forget the sleezy Darin McGavin as Gus Sands.

Design and location - expertly scouted and lovingly restored when and where needed.

I might have to watch it today!
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bud white wrote: 26 May 2025 08:39 am It is hard to find any fault in The Natural. Granted it's a bit corny.. but from a film making aspect, it is incredibly good.

Cinematography? Check. The clip here is just one example. Dramatically lit. Excellent use of natural light.

Acting? Yep. Even the subtle performances are great. Duvall as the sleazy reporter .. Basinger and Hershey as the femme fatales in Roy's life.. His redemption in Iris ... Brimley, Farnsworth. An "A" list of talent. And don't forget the sleezy Darin McGavin as Gus Sands.

Design and location - expertly scouted and lovingly restored when and where needed.

I might have to watch it today!
... and neglected to include the soundtrack by Randy Newman.
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I listened to an interview not so long ago about Buford Pusser, there is allegedly some sketchiness in the case of his wife's murder, his character - plenty of reports to google :

https://www.actionnews5.com/story/49283 ... ser-death/
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MikoTython wrote: 26 May 2025 15:41 pm I listened to an interview not so long ago about Buford Pusser, there is allegedly some sketchiness in the case of his wife's murder, his character - plenty of reports to google :

https://www.actionnews5.com/story/49283 ... ser-death/
I recall when "Walking Tall" opened in theaters, during a time when college radicals and hardhats were constantly at war and Richard Nixon was ordering the murders of Kent State student protestors and trying to hold up geeky son in law David Eisenhower as the baby boomer male ideal, the movie ads blared "When was the last time you stood and applauded a movie?", with a club-wielding Joe Don Baker posing as the answer to all those boomer punks and future (ahem) elites.
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bud white wrote: 26 May 2025 08:39 am It is hard to find any fault in The Natural. Granted it's a bit corny.. but from a film making aspect, it is incredibly good.

Cinematography? Check. The clip here is just one example. Dramatically lit. Excellent use of natural light.

Acting? Yep. Even the subtle performances are great. Duvall as the sleazy reporter .. Basinger and Hershey as the femme fatales in Roy's life.. His redemption in Iris ... Brimley, Farnsworth. An "A" list of talent. And don't forget the sleezy Darin McGavin as Gus Sands.

Design and location - expertly scouted and lovingly restored when and where needed.

I might have to watch it today!
You probably know that plot point of the movie's femme fatale (was it Barbara Hershey?) shooting Redford's Roy Hobbs was loosely based on the case of the Philadelphia Phillies' Eddie Waitkus. https://retrosimba.com/2019/06/13/the-t ... tel%20room.
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"You guys watch Joe Don Baker movies?"



From MST3K
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MikoTython wrote: 26 May 2025 15:41 pm I listened to an interview not so long ago about Buford Pusser, there is allegedly some sketchiness in the case of his wife's murder, his character - plenty of reports to google :

https://www.actionnews5.com/story/49283 ... ser-death/
Wait you're saying the hardcore violent cop-worshipping director fetishist Phil Karlson might have overlooked some elements in his frenzied worship of violent betrayers of the public trust?

I loathe Karlson and his films. It's 1955 Alabama and what noir story is he telling? A literal Klan governor biopic. In the year of the Montgomery bus boycotts. The future Klan governor is the pure hero and it's his rise to the moral public trust that Karlson felt we needed to see. How can we be certain he's truly worshipping this? Because he fronted the film with 15 minutes of documentary from the kind of people who helped hide Cheney Schwerner and Goodman's bodies and call it heritage. And they talk about their way of life.

Or look at the [shirt] noir KC Confidential. The premise is a former disgraced cop sets up a 1 million dollar bank robbery with criminals. He succeeds, they have the money. But why is this heist so weirdly anonymous? You see, the apotheosis of human fruition is to be a corrupt violent cop, and being excommunicated from this sacred order is a wrong that must be righted, by committing a 1 million dollar successful bank heist THEN TURNING THEM ALL IN SO HE CAN BE A COP AGAIN AND RESTORE HIS HONOR. Karlsson would have absolutely nutted to the coast to coast 2020 cop thug riots. Karlson just wanted southern cops to be violent against people and show how cool it was. He was a disgrace.
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seattleblue wrote: 28 May 2025 10:24 am
MikoTython wrote: 26 May 2025 15:41 pm I listened to an interview not so long ago about Buford Pusser, there is allegedly some sketchiness in the case of his wife's murder, his character - plenty of reports to google :

https://www.actionnews5.com/story/49283 ... ser-death/
Wait you're saying the hardcore violent cop-worshipping director fetishist Phil Karlson might have overlooked some elements in his frenzied worship of violent betrayers of the public trust?

I loathe Karlson and his films. It's 1955 Alabama and what noir story is he telling? A literal Klan governor biopic. In the year of the Montgomery bus boycotts. The future Klan governor is the pure hero and it's his rise to the moral public trust that Karlson felt we needed to see. How can we be certain he's truly worshipping this? Because he fronted the film with 15 minutes of documentary from the kind of people who helped hide Cheney Schwerner and Goodman's bodies and call it heritage. And they talk about their way of life.

Or look at the [shirt] noir KC Confidential. The premise is a former disgraced cop sets up a 1 million dollar bank robbery with criminals. He succeeds, they have the money. But why is this heist so weirdly anonymous? You see, the apotheosis of human fruition is to be a corrupt violent cop, and being excommunicated from this sacred order is a wrong that must be righted, by committing a 1 million dollar successful bank heist THEN TURNING THEM ALL IN SO HE CAN BE A COP AGAIN AND RESTORE HIS HONOR. Karlsson would have absolutely nutted to the coast to coast 2020 cop thug riots. Karlson just wanted southern cops to be violent against people and show how cool it was. He was a disgrace.
Next thing you'll be telling me is that 'famed' Civil War historian Shelby Foote had a permanent woody for Nathan Bedford Forrest.

https://www.journalofthecivilwarera.org ... at-thirty/
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MikoTython wrote: 28 May 2025 12:40 pm
seattleblue wrote: 28 May 2025 10:24 am
MikoTython wrote: 26 May 2025 15:41 pm I listened to an interview not so long ago about Buford Pusser, there is allegedly some sketchiness in the case of his wife's murder, his character - plenty of reports to google :

https://www.actionnews5.com/story/49283 ... ser-death/
Wait you're saying the hardcore violent cop-worshipping director fetishist Phil Karlson might have overlooked some elements in his frenzied worship of violent betrayers of the public trust?

I loathe Karlson and his films. It's 1955 Alabama and what noir story is he telling? A literal Klan governor biopic. In the year of the Montgomery bus boycotts. The future Klan governor is the pure hero and it's his rise to the moral public trust that Karlson felt we needed to see. How can we be certain he's truly worshipping this? Because he fronted the film with 15 minutes of documentary from the kind of people who helped hide Cheney Schwerner and Goodman's bodies and call it heritage. And they talk about their way of life.

Or look at the [shirt] noir KC Confidential. The premise is a former disgraced cop sets up a 1 million dollar bank robbery with criminals. He succeeds, they have the money. But why is this heist so weirdly anonymous? You see, the apotheosis of human fruition is to be a corrupt violent cop, and being excommunicated from this sacred order is a wrong that must be righted, by committing a 1 million dollar successful bank heist THEN TURNING THEM ALL IN SO HE CAN BE A COP AGAIN AND RESTORE HIS HONOR. Karlsson would have absolutely nutted to the coast to coast 2020 cop thug riots. Karlson just wanted southern cops to be violent against people and show how cool it was. He was a disgrace.
Next thing you'll be telling me is that 'famed' Civil War historian Shelby Foote had a permanent woody for Nathan Bedford Forrest.

https://www.journalofthecivilwarera.org ... at-thirty/
Of course , he did.

While Foote's "historical" works and opinions are very sad and destructive... he wrote the screenplay's for at least two magnificent films.
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Also- "Whammer" was the nickname of the violent grandson of Paul Newman's character in my favorute Holiday Film, "Nobody's Fool".
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