BUFFALO IS A GOOD TRADE PARTNER

[Zizzle1297]

If you could somehow find a age 23 to 26 RD or even LD. Would you give up Lindstein or Jirichek.

[rbirules]

If you could somehow find a age 23 to 26 RD or even LD. Would you give up Lindstein or Jirichek.

Nobody (other than maybe Thomas) is untouchable in the right trade. Soooo, absolutely . . . for the right player(s).

[Blue Sabbath]

If you’re trading with Buffalo, it’s Power or bust

How do you pry him loose?

What about Seider from Detroit? Would they be more likely to make a big trade for some forwards?

You don't get Power without basically an equal player like a Kyrou and a 1st. I don't see how this helps the Blues. Fans are focusing on defense and our win condition concern is offense. Tuch is someone who could be had but doesn't fill a need. Buffalo might be interested in some adjustment trades but they have to start believing their playoff hopes should be next year or the year after, especially with how weak the east is after the top 4-5ish. IT was really bad this year, so slight adjustments can get you those 5 wins or so you need to get yourself into playoff contention.

If the Blues are looking to make trades, they need to be looking at the Center position and be willing to give up a couple of their prospects and a draft pick. You would look at your Deans/Stenbergs/Peterson/Pekarcic and couple that with a 1st or 3rd-5th (don't have 2nds) depending on which player was plucked. If you could find a bottom feeder team to make the trade, then maybe you can offload Leddy's contract since it expires after the year, THEN you can start talking about trading for defense. But it all starts with addressing the center situation.

Yep, if I'm Army center is my #1 priority. Would a new RHDman be a good get? Absolutely, but if we come back with the same defense next season I'm not worried.

If we come back with the same center situation then I'm worried.

Does Mercer fit the description of a 200 ft goal scorer?
Is he physical? Will he take a hit to make a play. Does he forecheck & back check, etc ?

Admittedly I haven't watched a lot of him but he's a -25 his rookie season, then +22 his best all around season, -26 when the Devils dealt with all their injuries, and +4 this year.

Up and down but appears to be mainly a + player in his minor days so he has to play some defense.

Great thing about defense is it can be taught, offense can't.

Here is a scouting report on him (don't know much about the site so grain of salt type of thing but they speak highly of his speed, his defense, and goal scoring)

https://smahtscouting.com/2020/08/04/sc ... on-mercer/

The scouting report is from 2020, his draft year. He came up to the big club for the 2021-2022 season and played all 82 games. He's done that all 4 seasons in the NHL. That's impressive to me. So far he's averaging.5 pts per game. I gotta wonder who his wingers have been in New Jersey. I have no idea if he rectifies our 2c issue or not. Maybe he's due to take a next step in his development.

[Blue Sabbath]

If you’re Buffalo you probably aren’t trading BB here unless one of our young stud forwards is part of the return package. I’m thinking they start with a Snuggy + Hofer ask. Frankly, I’d love to get my hands on BB but not for what Buffalo is going to want. That franchise and fanbase is desperate to get over the hump. They’re not making any trades unless they’re the out and out winner.

I don't think Snuggeruud or Hofer help Buffalo get over the hump anytime soon. I'm thinking they need. a stud veteran or two. It's anybody's guess what they want though.

[thegibby.]

I'd take Zach Benson off their hands.

[Harry S Deals]

The Blues have Fowler and Broberg on the LHD side for the foreseeable future there is no reason to look at D until the Blues find a center

[TheJackBurton]

If you’re trading with Buffalo, it’s Power or bust

How do you pry him loose?

What about Seider from Detroit? Would they be more likely to make a big trade for some forwards?

You don't get Power without basically an equal player like a Kyrou and a 1st. I don't see how this helps the Blues. Fans are focusing on defense and our win condition concern is offense. Tuch is someone who could be had but doesn't fill a need. Buffalo might be interested in some adjustment trades but they have to start believing their playoff hopes should be next year or the year after, especially with how weak the east is after the top 4-5ish. IT was really bad this year, so slight adjustments can get you those 5 wins or so you need to get yourself into playoff contention.

If the Blues are looking to make trades, they need to be looking at the Center position and be willing to give up a couple of their prospects and a draft pick. You would look at your Deans/Stenbergs/Peterson/Pekarcic and couple that with a 1st or 3rd-5th (don't have 2nds) depending on which player was plucked. If you could find a bottom feeder team to make the trade, then maybe you can offload Leddy's contract since it expires after the year, THEN you can start talking about trading for defense. But it all starts with addressing the center situation.

Yep, if I'm Army center is my #1 priority. Would a new RHDman be a good get? Absolutely, but if we come back with the same defense next season I'm not worried.

If we come back with the same center situation then I'm worried.

Does Mercer fit the description of a 200 ft goal scorer?
Is he physical? Will he take a hit to make a play. Does he forecheck & back check, etc ?

Admittedly I haven't watched a lot of him but he's a -25 his rookie season, then +22 his best all around season, -26 when the Devils dealt with all their injuries, and +4 this year.

Up and down but appears to be mainly a + player in his minor days so he has to play some defense.

Great thing about defense is it can be taught, offense can't.

Here is a scouting report on him (don't know much about the site so grain of salt type of thing but they speak highly of his speed, his defense, and goal scoring)

https://smahtscouting.com/2020/08/04/sc ... on-mercer/

The scouting report is from 2020, his draft year. He came up to the big club for the 2021-2022 season and played all 82 games. He's done that all 4 seasons in the NHL. That's impressive to me. So far he's averaging.5 pts per game. I gotta wonder who his wingers have been in New Jersey. I have no idea if he rectifies our 2c issue or not. Maybe he's due to take a next step in his development.

Yep. Rumor has that his wingers haven't been the best, which makes sense why NJ is looking for wingers, so that has suppressed his scoring.

I think he's a great gamble to take as NJ has plenty of centers so they can just step in and fill his spot easily, we have a glut of what they are looking for, and the cost shouldn't be too steep.

One thing is he has been improving on faceoffs, but he's sitting at 41% which he'll have to improve upon.

[EKFMGA]

Buffalo obviously has some very attractive defensemen on their roster (mostly LHD), but what about McLeod? 25 year old center that fits our growing roster. No idea what it would take, but seems like a worthwhile target especially given the UFA market for 2Cs.

Hell, I'd go after Tage imagine lines of
Buch tommer snuggy
Hollywood Tage kyrou
Jake shenner boldy

Hell other than binner, perry, broby maybe fowler and divorsky take who ever you want.

[TheJackBurton]

Buffalo obviously has some very attractive defensemen on their roster (mostly LHD), but what about McLeod? 25 year old center that fits our growing roster. No idea what it would take, but seems like a worthwhile target especially given the UFA market for 2Cs.

Hell, I'd go after Tage imagine lines of
Buch tommer snuggy
Hollywood Tage kyrou
Jake shenner boldy

Hell other than binner, perry, broby maybe fowler and divorsky take who ever you want.

Tage Thompson is about as untouchable a player as there is in the NHL.

[rbirules]

Buffalo obviously has some very attractive defensemen on their roster (mostly LHD), but what about McLeod? 25 year old center that fits our growing roster. No idea what it would take, but seems like a worthwhile target especially given the UFA market for 2Cs.

Hell, I'd go after Tage imagine lines of
Buch tommer snuggy
Hollywood Tage kyrou
Jake shenner boldy

Hell other than binner, perry, broby maybe fowler and divorsky take who ever you want.

So how do you actually plan on getting Thompson if you aren't willing to give up anything of value? You've traded none of our current forwards. Our goalie and top 3 defensemen (I assume "perry" is Parayko) are off limits as well as our top prospect, and you expect to get a very good player who is sign for $7.1M for five more years? Are you trading five straight 1st round picks and our next 3-4 top prospects?

[kimzey59]

Given that Buffalo is looking to take the next step, we really don't line up too well with them.
The guys we would be willing to trade(Sunny/Mojo/Tex) aren't even remotely worth the guys we'd be looking at(McCleod, Tuch) and I have NO interest in moving the guys they'd want.

I could maybe see something on the lines of Kulich or Krebs for MoJo or Sunny(IF we re-sign Faksa); but that just doesn't move the needle for either team.

We need to be looking at teams that might be inclined to do a salary dump(TB? Rag's?) or teams that just want a full roster purge(Nashville? Vancouver? Boston?).

[EKFMGA]

Buffalo obviously has some very attractive defensemen on their roster (mostly LHD), but what about McLeod? 25 year old center that fits our growing roster. No idea what it would take, but seems like a worthwhile target especially given the UFA market for 2Cs.

Hell, I'd go after Tage imagine lines of
Buch tommer snuggy
Hollywood Tage kyrou
Jake shenner boldy

Hell other than binner, perry, broby maybe fowler and divorsky take who ever you want.

So how do you actually plan on getting Thompson if you aren't willing to give up anything of value? You've traded none of our current forwards. Our goalie and top 3 defensemen (I assume "perry" is Parayko) are off limits as well as our top prospect, and you expect to get a very good player who is sign for $7.1M for five more years? Are you trading five straight 1st round picks and our next 3-4 top prospects?

well they need rd/ faulk and a goalie Hofer and pick any other prime prospect we have let alone any spare parts. as much as I would like him I don't see anyone else that would help. They have plenty of good LD which they are heavy in. we need #2 C how nice would that be the other option would be Kyrou move Boldy up on line 2.

[rbirules]

Buffalo obviously has some very attractive defensemen on their roster (mostly LHD), but what about McLeod? 25 year old center that fits our growing roster. No idea what it would take, but seems like a worthwhile target especially given the UFA market for 2Cs.

Hell, I'd go after Tage imagine lines of
Buch tommer snuggy
Hollywood Tage kyrou
Jake shenner boldy

Hell other than binner, perry, broby maybe fowler and divorsky take who ever you want.

So how do you actually plan on getting Thompson if you aren't willing to give up anything of value? You've traded none of our current forwards. Our goalie and top 3 defensemen (I assume "perry" is Parayko) are off limits as well as our top prospect, and you expect to get a very good player who is sign for $7.1M for five more years? Are you trading five straight 1st round picks and our next 3-4 top prospects?

well they need rd/ faulk and a goalie Hofer and pick any other prime prospect we have let alone any spare parts. as much as I would like him I don't see anyone else that would help. They have plenty of good LD which they are heavy in. we need #2 C how nice would that be the other option would be Kyrou move Boldy up on line 2.

You don't see how McLeod could help? he would be an upgrade at middle six center.

You're not getting Tage for Faulk, Hofer, non-DVO prospects and spare parts.

[EKFMGA]

Buffalo obviously has some very attractive defensemen on their roster (mostly LHD), but what about McLeod? 25 year old center that fits our growing roster. No idea what it would take, but seems like a worthwhile target especially given the UFA market for 2Cs.

Hell, I'd go after Tage imagine lines of
Buch tommer snuggy
Hollywood Tage kyrou
Jake shenner boldy

Hell other than binner, perry, broby maybe fowler and divorsky take who ever you want.

So how do you actually plan on getting Thompson if you aren't willing to give up anything of value? You've traded none of our current forwards. Our goalie and top 3 defensemen (I assume "perry" is Parayko) are off limits as well as our top prospect, and you expect to get a very good player who is sign for $7.1M for five more years? Are you trading five straight 1st round picks and our next 3-4 top prospects?

well they need rd/ faulk and a goalie Hofer and pick any other prime prospect we have let alone any spare parts. as much as I would like him I don't see anyone else that would help. They have plenty of good LD which they are heavy in. we need #2 C how nice would that be the other option would be Kyrou move Boldy up on line 2.

You don't see how McLeod could help? he would be an upgrade at middle six center.

You're not getting Tage for Faulk, Hofer, non-DVO prospects and spare parts.

Mcleod isn't a bad option they do have what 5 - 6 rfi's to sign this year. but that puts devo as 3rd line c for 5+ years not a bad thing. it would be the same as with Tage but thats a problem I am willing to have. They need veteran help to mold the kids. thus a Suny/Faulk would help them. so I could go either way. Tage yes would cost more..

[Old_Goat]

Buffalo obviously has some very attractive defensemen on their roster (mostly LHD), but what about McLeod? 25 year old center that fits our growing roster. No idea what it would take, but seems like a worthwhile target especially given the UFA market for 2Cs.

Ehhh I'm looking at New Jersey and Dawson Mercer.

Nj has a glut of centers, needs wingers, and most teams will be concentrating on looking to trade for one of their rhdmen.

Mercer isn't going to be in their top 2 centers as they have Hughes and Hischier. HE is under contract for 2 more years at 4 million, is 23, has a 56 point season on his resume, has seen his point totals drop so is likely due for a bounce back, and might very well be available for less than what an actual defined 2nd line center would cost.

You have a very good thought (target) here. Not sure what they would want, but maybe Texier and a prospect would be enough?

[rbirules]

Buffalo obviously has some very attractive defensemen on their roster (mostly LHD), but what about McLeod? 25 year old center that fits our growing roster. No idea what it would take, but seems like a worthwhile target especially given the UFA market for 2Cs.

Hell, I'd go after Tage imagine lines of
Buch tommer snuggy
Hollywood Tage kyrou
Jake shenner boldy

Hell other than binner, perry, broby maybe fowler and divorsky take who ever you want.

So how do you actually plan on getting Thompson if you aren't willing to give up anything of value? You've traded none of our current forwards. Our goalie and top 3 defensemen (I assume "perry" is Parayko) are off limits as well as our top prospect, and you expect to get a very good player who is sign for $7.1M for five more years? Are you trading five straight 1st round picks and our next 3-4 top prospects?

well they need rd/ faulk and a goalie Hofer and pick any other prime prospect we have let alone any spare parts. as much as I would like him I don't see anyone else that would help. They have plenty of good LD which they are heavy in. we need #2 C how nice would that be the other option would be Kyrou move Boldy up on line 2.

You don't see how McLeod could help? he would be an upgrade at middle six center.

You're not getting Tage for Faulk, Hofer, non-DVO prospects and spare parts.

Mcleod isn't a bad option they do have what 5 - 6 rfi's to sign this year. but that puts devo as 3rd line c for 5+ years not a bad thing. it would be the same as with Tage but thats a problem I am willing to have. They need veteran help to mold the kids. thus a Suny/Faulk would help them. so I could go either way. Tage yes would cost more..

If McLeod plays well enough to keep devo as the 3rd line center for 5+ years then I'd say the trade worked out well.

I don't think Tage is available, period, but if he was I don't see how we get him without trading devo at the very least.

Buffalo might value sunny or Faulk as a throw in piece for veteran leadership but they are not going to add much if any value to a trade.