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Nublues69 wrote: 21 May 2025 15:22 pm The NHL salary cap for the 2025-26 season is projected to be $95.5 million, a significant increase from the current $88 million cap.


$87,715,978 as of this last season
(not saying they are all gone)

minus faksa 3.5 mil
minus suter .775 k
minus joseph 2.95 mil
minus Texier 2.1 mil
minus leddy 4 mil

so we have plenty of leway

Also Hofer is arbitration eligible which means all we have to do is qualify him and he is off-sheet exempt
I'm not convinced we can move those players.
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Nublues69 wrote: 21 May 2025 15:22 pm The NHL salary cap for the 2025-26 season is projected to be $95.5 million, a significant increase from the current $88 million cap.


$87,715,978 as of this last season
(not saying they are all gone)

minus faksa 3.5 mil
minus suter .775 k
minus joseph 2.95 mil
minus Texier 2.1 mil
minus leddy 4 mil

so we have plenty of leway

Also Hofer is arbitration eligible which means all we have to do is qualify him and he is off-sheet exempt
Qualifying a player doesn’t exempt them from being able to sign an offer sheet. It just keeps them a RFA and not a UFA. If Hofer files for arbitration though, then he’d be ineligible to sign an offer sheet.

And where are Joseph, Texier and Leddy going? As of today, all 3 have contracts with the Blues for next season.
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I saw this earlier. Pipe dream.
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I got us with about 1.5 million left after signing Faksa and Hofer and before Krugs money is available and still needing a middle/top 6 center.

Obviously moving Texier and Joseph would put us in a much better situation but those might prove to be tough sells.
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DoneLurking wrote: 21 May 2025 15:25 pm
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 21 May 2025 14:26 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 21 May 2025 13:50 pm I'm not seeing anything inaccurate in this article.

I'm not keen on giving up Binnington, and I'm even less keen on sending him to Philly. I like Binny too much.

However, with all that said, if Binnington wants to go to Philly or someplace else, I would entertain the idea.
Well the Blues being strapped for cash would be one thing. If you spend 5 seconds you will see that the Blues have 6 million in cap space to fill the 3 roster spots they are losing. That is Hofer RFA, Faksa UFA, Suter UFA. Suter doesn't have to be resigned and can be backfilled with Kessel if the Blues so choose. Faksa doesn't have to be filled and can be replaced with Dvorsky if they SO choose to do so. That would mean you would have to offer sheet Hofer the equivalent of your 1st rounder LOL to make it happen. You can only offer sheet your picks so the Blues would get the 6th overall if the Flyers wanted to offer sheet him and the Blues decided to let him walk.

LAUGHING

That is before the Blues get their 6.5m back from Krugs contract that currently is applied to the projected cap space for next season. We all know he's injured and 99 percent sure not coming back. So the Blues have 12.5m in cap space. That is strapped for cash?

AND, if you wanted to trade Binnington to shed 6million we would be at 18.5m The Blues would all the sudden have 18.5m to sign a goalie and replace 1 roster spot necessary.

There is a lot in this article that is wrong. Can you at least try 1 time to sound knowledgeable. It really makes it hard to read your shtick when you say things like "I'm not seeing anything inaccurate in this article." I actually wouldn't say the trade proposal is that far off for a goalies worth. But that's besides the point.
Just an FYI, the offer sheet would happen after July 1st, so it wouldn’t be the 6th overall pick. It would be the pick in next years draft.
Ahh good call that is my mistake. As to skillies. The Blues currently have 5.9m this year and 42m next year.

https://puckpedia.com/team/st-louis-blues

The Blues only have to replace those positions and already have guys under contract to do so if they chose to minus the goalie position. They have Kessel at 800k and Dvorsky at 866k. If those guys were applied to the roster you would have 3.94m left to sign Hofer. Hofer is not going to be a 4m goalie. I would venture to guess he gets around 3m. Regardless, that is a full roster and the Blues can easily make that happen if they wanted to.

If the Blues decide they want to resign Faksa they are more than welcome to do so. The Blues can go over their cap space by 10 percent until the first game of the season. 10 percent being they can run over the limit by 9.5m. Well there's certainly enough room to do so there if the Blues so choose. All of this is important to know because the Krug contract won't come off the books until LTIR can be declared. Well Krugs contract will be LTIR so the 6.5m he counts against will be in addition to the 5.9m I already posted. So in a sense, the Blues can make all of their decisions without worry about Krugs cap hit because his 6.5 is less than the 10 percent overrun.

The Blues are not in a bad spot cap space wise, and they don't have to move any players. They are actually in a very advantageous cap space situation because they have multiple 1 year guys left on the roster in Joseph/Texier/Leddy/Sunny/Walker/Torps (there are others too but holloway and broberg will get extended most likely) that the team can move on from if they so choose and fill with younger players in 2 years.
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STL fan in MN wrote: 21 May 2025 15:32 pm
Nublues69 wrote: 21 May 2025 15:22 pm The NHL salary cap for the 2025-26 season is projected to be $95.5 million, a significant increase from the current $88 million cap.


$87,715,978 as of this last season
(not saying they are all gone)

minus faksa 3.5 mil
minus suter .775 k
minus joseph 2.95 mil
minus Texier 2.1 mil
minus leddy 4 mil

so we have plenty of leway

Also Hofer is arbitration eligible which means all we have to do is qualify him and he is off-sheet exempt
Qualifying a player doesn’t exempt them from being able to sign an offer sheet. It just keeps them a RFA and not a UFA. If Hofer files for arbitration though, then he’d be ineligible to sign an offer sheet.

And where are Joseph, Texier and Leddy going? As of today, all 3 have contracts with the Blues for next season.
Yes, in the NHL, a player who is eligible for salary arbitration is generally offer sheet exempt once they have elected or are subject to arbitration by their team. This means they cannot sign an offer sheet from another team after that point.

If we qualify a player then we can choose arbitration or they can. Either way once arbritration is ineacted they are offer sheet exempt. REad up on the rules please
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skilles wrote: 21 May 2025 15:45 pm I got us with about 1.5 million left after signing Faksa and Hofer and before Krugs money is available and still needing a middle/top 6 center.

Obviously moving Texier and Joseph would put us in a much better situation but those might prove to be tough sells.
Texier and Joseph were desperate acquisitions by Army to fix the speed problem that we had. Just in case, we didn't get Holloway, these guys would have been our speed. Scary, eh?

Tough sell to say the least. Hard to bring speed while sitting on the bench.
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I could be all wrong, or how I value what Binny can do can be way off. But there's not many big game goalers in the league. If Army was to only get a lesser first and some junk. I wouldn't let that go.

I'd also match a 3 million offer on Hofer. My thinking would be 9 million on the goalie position. Isn't that bad on them two.

I'd like to know more about this, being strapped for cash.
Not saying it's true. I'm saying I wouldn't trust stl media to find that out.

Fuxk that dude
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skilles wrote: 21 May 2025 15:45 pm I got us with about 1.5 million left after signing Faksa and Hofer and before Krugs money is available and still needing a middle/top 6 center.

Obviously moving Texier and Joseph would put us in a much better situation but those might prove to be tough sells.
The Blues will probably be able to extend Hofer, Faksa (or get a comparable UFA), and Suter (if they want) with the currently available 5.9M-ish in space.

For any new UFA signings, you're allowed to exceed the cap during the offseason by 10%, so that's an extra 9.5M until the first day of the season when Krug's 6.5M can go on LTIR. That's plenty of wiggle room to try and acquire a 2C if you can find one.

In anticipation of day one and needing to make room for Krug's 6.5M before he goes on LTIR, you send the following down to Springfield:

Bolduc @ 863K (waivers exempt)
Snuggerud @950K (waivers exempt)
Texier @2.1M (requires waivers)
Joseph @2.95M (requires waivers)

That's 6.83M. Nobody is really going to be concerned if we lose Texier or Joseph, and given that they aren't league minimum guys the likelihood that they'll even get picked is low. Tons of players sneak through waivers at the beginning of the season because most teams are trying to do the same thing the Blues will be doing.

The Blues will be fine.
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bluetunehead wrote: 21 May 2025 16:09 pm
skilles wrote: 21 May 2025 15:45 pm I got us with about 1.5 million left after signing Faksa and Hofer and before Krugs money is available and still needing a middle/top 6 center.

Obviously moving Texier and Joseph would put us in a much better situation but those might prove to be tough sells.
The Blues will probably be able to extend Hofer, Faksa (or get a comparable UFA), and Suter (if they want) with the currently available 5.9M-ish in space.

For any new UFA signings, you're allowed to exceed the cap during the offseason by 10%, so that's an extra 9.5M until the first day of the season when Krug's 6.5M can go on LTIR. That's plenty of wiggle room to try and acquire a 2C if you can find one.

In anticipation of day one and needing to make room for Krug's 6.5M before he goes on LTIR, you send the following down to Springfield:

Bolduc @ 863K (waivers exempt)
Snuggerud @950K (waivers exempt)
Texier @2.1M (requires waivers)
Joseph @2.95M (requires waivers)

That's 6.83M. Nobody is really going to be concerned if we lose Texier or Joseph, and given that they aren't league minimum guys the likelihood that they'll even get picked is low. Tons of players sneak through waivers at the beginning of the season because most teams are trying to do the same thing the Blues will be doing.

The Blues will be fine.
Neither Bolduc or Snuggler gets through waivers. No one would waive players of that type and no one would let that pass.
Crazy talk.
Edmonton would move the earth to make sure they didnt pass through waivers.
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Cahokanut wrote: 21 May 2025 16:20 pm
bluetunehead wrote: 21 May 2025 16:09 pm
skilles wrote: 21 May 2025 15:45 pm I got us with about 1.5 million left after signing Faksa and Hofer and before Krugs money is available and still needing a middle/top 6 center.

Obviously moving Texier and Joseph would put us in a much better situation but those might prove to be tough sells.
The Blues will probably be able to extend Hofer, Faksa (or get a comparable UFA), and Suter (if they want) with the currently available 5.9M-ish in space.

For any new UFA signings, you're allowed to exceed the cap during the offseason by 10%, so that's an extra 9.5M until the first day of the season when Krug's 6.5M can go on LTIR. That's plenty of wiggle room to try and acquire a 2C if you can find one.

In anticipation of day one and needing to make room for Krug's 6.5M before he goes on LTIR, you send the following down to Springfield:

Bolduc @ 863K (waivers exempt)
Snuggerud @950K (waivers exempt)
Texier @2.1M (requires waivers)
Joseph @2.95M (requires waivers)

That's 6.83M. Nobody is really going to be concerned if we lose Texier or Joseph, and given that they aren't league minimum guys the likelihood that they'll even get picked is low. Tons of players sneak through waivers at the beginning of the season because most teams are trying to do the same thing the Blues will be doing.

The Blues will be fine.
Neither Bolduc or Snuggler gets through waivers. No one would waive players of that type and no one would let that pass.
Crazy talk.
Edmonton would move the earth to make sure they didnt pass through waivers.
It doesn’t matter. Neither would have to go through waivers if being sent down….
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Nublues69 wrote: 21 May 2025 15:58 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 21 May 2025 15:32 pm
Nublues69 wrote: 21 May 2025 15:22 pm The NHL salary cap for the 2025-26 season is projected to be $95.5 million, a significant increase from the current $88 million cap.


$87,715,978 as of this last season
(not saying they are all gone)

minus faksa 3.5 mil
minus suter .775 k
minus joseph 2.95 mil
minus Texier 2.1 mil
minus leddy 4 mil

so we have plenty of leway

Also Hofer is arbitration eligible which means all we have to do is qualify him and he is off-sheet exempt
Qualifying a player doesn’t exempt them from being able to sign an offer sheet. It just keeps them a RFA and not a UFA. If Hofer files for arbitration though, then he’d be ineligible to sign an offer sheet.

And where are Joseph, Texier and Leddy going? As of today, all 3 have contracts with the Blues for next season.
Yes, in the NHL, a player who is eligible for salary arbitration is generally offer sheet exempt once they have elected or are subject to arbitration by their team. This means they cannot sign an offer sheet from another team after that point.

If we qualify a player then we can choose arbitration or they can. Either way once arbritration is ineacted they are offer sheet exempt. REad up on the rules please
Dude, I was trying to be nice and just clarify how it works but if you’re going to go with “read up on the rules please” then I’m really going to set you straight, as once again you’re wrong.

You said that since Hofer is arbitration eligible, all the Blues have to do is qualify him and he wouldn’t be eligible for an offer sheet. This is dead (donkey) wrong. QOs are due on June 25. Hofer will become a RFA on July 1. He wouldn’t even be able to file for arbitration until July 5. If he doesn’t, the Blues can the elect arbitration on July 6. The arbitration hearing wound then be set for sometime between July 20-August 4.

Hofer could sign an offer sheet as soon as July 1. And he’s under no obligation to file for arbitration. Many players don’t. Neither Broberg or Holloway did a year ago for example. And if the team elects for arbitration then the player is still eligible to sign an offer sheet up until the day of the arbitration hearing since they’re not the one that filed it.
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Cahokanut wrote: 21 May 2025 16:20 pm
bluetunehead wrote: 21 May 2025 16:09 pm
skilles wrote: 21 May 2025 15:45 pm I got us with about 1.5 million left after signing Faksa and Hofer and before Krugs money is available and still needing a middle/top 6 center.

Obviously moving Texier and Joseph would put us in a much better situation but those might prove to be tough sells.
The Blues will probably be able to extend Hofer, Faksa (or get a comparable UFA), and Suter (if they want) with the currently available 5.9M-ish in space.

For any new UFA signings, you're allowed to exceed the cap during the offseason by 10%, so that's an extra 9.5M until the first day of the season when Krug's 6.5M can go on LTIR. That's plenty of wiggle room to try and acquire a 2C if you can find one.

In anticipation of day one and needing to make room for Krug's 6.5M before he goes on LTIR, you send the following down to Springfield:

Bolduc @ 863K (waivers exempt)
Snuggerud @950K (waivers exempt)
Texier @2.1M (requires waivers)
Joseph @2.95M (requires waivers)

That's 6.83M. Nobody is really going to be concerned if we lose Texier or Joseph, and given that they aren't league minimum guys the likelihood that they'll even get picked is low. Tons of players sneak through waivers at the beginning of the season because most teams are trying to do the same thing the Blues will be doing.

The Blues will be fine.
Neither Bolduc or Snuggler gets through waivers. No one would waive players of that type and no one would let that pass.
Crazy talk.
Edmonton would move the earth to make sure they didnt pass through waivers.
That’s why it says “waivers exempt” next to their names. They can still go to the minors without waivers.
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I have a potential dumb question.

What is Krugs KNOWN HEALTH STATUS?

When I hear or read Krug and LTIR in the same sentence around here it is always pretty much stated as LTIR bound. But is he?

I know Krug can retire at any point....or opt to take his contract to the end on LTIR......but what are his options as a player to return to the game if he so desires? Is he still sitting around waiting to hear a medical report? Wouldn't it be in both parties best interest to get this hammered out and determined?

Or what am I missing?
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As has been discussed extensively in previous threads, the Blues don't potentially lose Hofer because of a "cap band[sic], they lose him because they don't think he is worth 4.6+ for the next couple of years.
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dhsux wrote: 21 May 2025 17:33 pm I have a potential dumb question.

What is Krugs KNOWN HEALTH STATUS?

When I hear or read Krug and LTIR in the same sentence around here it is always pretty much stated as LTIR bound. But is he?

I know Krug can retire at any point....or opt to take his contract to the end on LTIR......but what are his options as a player to return to the game if he so desires? Is he still sitting around waiting to hear a medical report? Wouldn't it be in both parties best interest to get this hammered out and determined?

Or what am I missing?
Armstrong said Krug is unlikely to ever play again, though that’s not definitive. I’d guess he’s out for the full season even if he does try and come back eventually.

https://www.nhl.com/news/torey-krug-lik ... trong-says
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