Time to lock up Brendan Donovan

Welcome to STLtoday.com's forum for fans of the St. Louis Cardinals.

Moderators: STLtoday Forum Moderators, Cards Talk Moderators

hugeCardfan
Forum User
Posts: 1328
Joined: 23 May 2024 12:42 pm

Time to lock up Brendan Donovan

Post by hugeCardfan »

6 years...
3dender
Forum User
Posts: 1037
Joined: 23 May 2024 12:57 pm

Re: Time to lock up Brendan Donovan

Post by 3dender »

and Winn, and Herrera.
hugeCardfan
Forum User
Posts: 1328
Joined: 23 May 2024 12:42 pm

Re: Time to lock up Brendan Donovan

Post by hugeCardfan »

3dender wrote: 20 May 2025 15:53 pm and Winn, and Herrera.
Next year.... and year following... 7 each...
ecleme22
Forum User
Posts: 3036
Joined: 23 May 2024 21:17 pm

Re: Time to lock up Brendan Donovan

Post by ecleme22 »

Or maybe trade him once JJ is ready?

Not the sexiest option, especially since BD is playing like a beast, but with Miko, Matz, Maton and Fedde off the books, and Gray done just a year later, pitching could be a hole.
Ronnie Dobbs
Forum User
Posts: 890
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:17 pm

Re: Time to lock up Brendan Donovan

Post by Ronnie Dobbs »

3dender wrote: 20 May 2025 15:53 pm and Winn, and Herrera.
I'd be thinking about Scott too, but Winn, Donovan, and Herrera gotta be top of my list.

Hell, maybe Liberatore at this point too.
hugeCardfan
Forum User
Posts: 1328
Joined: 23 May 2024 12:42 pm

Re: Time to lock up Brendan Donovan

Post by hugeCardfan »

Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 20 May 2025 18:05 pm
3dender wrote: 20 May 2025 15:53 pm and Winn, and Herrera.
I'd be thinking about Scott too, but Winn, Donovan, and Herrera gotta be top of my list.

Hell, maybe Liberatore at this point too.
Yes Liberatore fits too.
mattmitchl44
Forum User
Posts: 1681
Joined: 23 May 2024 15:33 pm

Re: Time to lock up Brendan Donovan

Post by mattmitchl44 »

Ideally, I'd want to lock guys up through their age 31 or age 32 seasons.

For Donovan, that would be like a three year contract with a team option for 2029 (his age 32 season).
hullie
Forum User
Posts: 656
Joined: 23 May 2024 20:58 pm

Re: Time to lock up Brendan Donovan

Post by hullie »

CBA
An Old Friend
Forum User
Posts: 12487
Joined: 20 Nov 2018 23:31 pm

Re: Time to lock up Brendan Donovan

Post by An Old Friend »

hugeCardfan wrote: 20 May 2025 15:51 pm 6 years...
The time to do it was 1-2 years ago.
ecleme22
Forum User
Posts: 3036
Joined: 23 May 2024 21:17 pm

Re: Time to lock up Brendan Donovan

Post by ecleme22 »

An Old Friend wrote: 20 May 2025 20:39 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 20 May 2025 15:51 pm 6 years...
The time to do it was 1-2 years ago.
You also said, after the 2021 season, the Cards should lock up O'Neil for 4-5 years for 50ish mil.
An Old Friend
Forum User
Posts: 12487
Joined: 20 Nov 2018 23:31 pm

Re: Time to lock up Brendan Donovan

Post by An Old Friend »

ecleme22 wrote: 20 May 2025 21:41 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 20 May 2025 20:39 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 20 May 2025 15:51 pm 6 years...
The time to do it was 1-2 years ago.
You also said, after the 2021 season, the Cards should lock up O'Neil for 4-5 years for 50ish mil.
I don’t recall opining that at all.
ramfandan
Forum User
Posts: 4210
Joined: 27 May 2024 19:52 pm

Re: Time to lock up Brendan Donovan

Post by ramfandan »

mattmitchl44 wrote: 20 May 2025 19:29 pm Ideally, I'd want to lock guys up through their age 31 or age 32 seasons.

For Donovan, that would be like a three year contract with a team option for 2029 (his age 32 season).
Your idea is a good one if you are Cardinals FO but let me ask you , now look at your deal if YOU are Donovan.
He had his first year arb. this year. With his play this year , he will get a BIG bump in Year 2 of ARB...... He is 28 years old right now . Would YOU lock yourself into a 4 year deal (3 + option ) ?> If I was Donnie , I would NOT

Plus remember in his ARB this year Cards offered $2.85 when he asked for $3.3 The arbitor picked the Cardinals $2.85 so he lost $450,000 .
So losing that 1/2 million does not leave a good taste in his mouth (yes, they know it's a business but players also say OK , I will recoup that and maybe more by going to free agency then .
ecleme22
Forum User
Posts: 3036
Joined: 23 May 2024 21:17 pm

Re: Time to lock up Brendan Donovan

Post by ecleme22 »

An Old Friend wrote: 20 May 2025 21:48 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 20 May 2025 21:41 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 20 May 2025 20:39 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 20 May 2025 15:51 pm 6 years...
The time to do it was 1-2 years ago.
You also said, after the 2021 season, the Cards should lock up O'Neil for 4-5 years for 50ish mil.
I don’t recall opining that at all.
I think you did, but let's move on. I don't want to have a negative back and forth with you.

Donovan is playing out of his mind now. Do you think he's more of his 2024 version or more his 2025 version?

Because I don't mind just riding out BD's contract. He will be a FA at 31 years old. He's not walking at the clip of his rookie year, and, IMO, guys with big walk rates age better.

I think you try to buy out BD until 2028 or 2029. If he's totally opposed, then you put the feelers out to trade him next offseason for player(s) who are near MLB ready.

With JJ coming up and 3 starting pitching on their way out, or about to be, might be a good idea.

It would be a Tampa-esque move.
kyace
Forum User
Posts: 606
Joined: 24 May 2024 19:11 pm

Re: Time to lock up Brendan Donovan

Post by kyace »

mattmitchl44 wrote: 20 May 2025 19:29 pm Ideally, I'd want to lock guys up through their age 31 or age 32 seasons.

For Donovan, that would be like a three year contract with a team option for 2029 (his age 32 season).
It will take at least a 5 year contract for him to sign imo. Unless maybe they give him a 3 year $40 million contract with bonus money paid up front. That would however only buy one free agent year and makes no sense for the Cardinals.
Donovan, Winn and Scott are the best candidates to extend.
Quincy Varnish
Forum User
Posts: 17126
Joined: 10 Nov 2019 04:55 am

Re: Time to lock up Brendan Donovan

Post by Quincy Varnish »

An Old Friend wrote: 20 May 2025 21:48 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 20 May 2025 21:41 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 20 May 2025 20:39 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 20 May 2025 15:51 pm 6 years...
The time to do it was 1-2 years ago.
You also said, after the 2021 season, the Cards should lock up O'Neil for 4-5 years for 50ish mil.
I don’t recall opining that at all.
I remember when you said Hitler was cool.
ecleme22
Forum User
Posts: 3036
Joined: 23 May 2024 21:17 pm

Re: Time to lock up Brendan Donovan

Post by ecleme22 »

Quincy Varnish wrote: 20 May 2025 22:30 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 20 May 2025 21:48 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 20 May 2025 21:41 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 20 May 2025 20:39 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 20 May 2025 15:51 pm 6 years...
The time to do it was 1-2 years ago.
You also said, after the 2021 season, the Cards should lock up O'Neil for 4-5 years for 50ish mil.
I don’t recall opining that at all.
I remember when you said Hitler was cool.
He did. He and Jeffy25 were bouncing around contract scenarios.
Post Reply