Kentucky to spinoff Athletic Department as a separate LLC Company

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Re: Kentucky to spinoff Athletic Department as a separate LLC Company

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The current University of Kentucky model now has their athletic department as a separate legal entity than the university.
It's been that way at Mizzou for over 40 years, and many more athletic departments have gone that direction over the same time period.

It's funny how many state "my Alma Mater" yet have no idea it works that way or believe the athletes don't attend school or won't in the future.
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winonsports wrote: 16 May 2025 13:28 pm
The current University of Kentucky model now has their athletic department as a separate legal entity than the university.
It's been that way at Mizzou for over 40 years, and many more athletic departments have gone that direction over the same time period.

It's funny how many state "my Alma Mater" yet have no idea it works that way or believe the athletes don't attend school or won't in the future.
Wrong again. Here's the pertinent sentence from the below article:
Kentucky's move is believed to be the first of its kind by any by any major university in the country.
https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cf ... lc-company
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Re: Kentucky to spinoff Athletic Department as a separate LLC Company

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edwin drood wrote: 16 May 2025 16:21 pm
winonsports wrote: 16 May 2025 13:28 pm
The current University of Kentucky model now has their athletic department as a separate legal entity than the university.
It's been that way at Mizzou for over 40 years, and many more athletic departments have gone that direction over the same time period.

It's funny how many state "my Alma Mater" yet have no idea it works that way or believe the athletes don't attend school or won't in the future.
Wrong again. Here's the pertinent sentence ]from the below article:
Kentucky's move is believed to be the first of its kind by any by any major university in the country.
https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cf ... lc-company
Believed to be. That's your foundation. Good luck with that

"By shifting its actual athletic department into a private, for-profit company structure, Kentucky will be able to explore new ways of raising money, including public-private partnerships, to handle expenses as college football and other sports prepare to share revenue with athletes."

Mizzou and other schools have been doing this as a sole entity away from their Universities for decades.
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Re: Kentucky to spinoff Athletic Department as a separate LLC Company

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winonsports wrote: 18 May 2025 10:54 am
edwin drood wrote: 16 May 2025 16:21 pm
winonsports wrote: 16 May 2025 13:28 pm
The current University of Kentucky model now has their athletic department as a separate legal entity than the university.
It's been that way at Mizzou for over 40 years, and many more athletic departments have gone that direction over the same time period.

It's funny how many state "my Alma Mater" yet have no idea it works that way or believe the athletes don't attend school or won't in the future.
Wrong again. Here's the pertinent sentence ]from the below article:
Kentucky's move is believed to be the first of its kind by any by any major university in the country.
https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cf ... lc-company
Believed to be. That's your foundation. Good luck with that

"By shifting its actual athletic department into a private, for-profit company structure, Kentucky will be able to explore new ways of raising money, including public-private partnerships, to handle expenses as college football and other sports prepare to share revenue with athletes."

Mizzou and other schools have been doing this as a sole entity away from their Universities for decades.
It appears that this topic's complexity and nuance exceed your intellectual capacity. If Athletics operate as a sole entity, away from the University, why did the University Board of Curators need to approve the recent contract extension for Coach Drink? Why did Athletics need and accept over $40 million from the University in 2024? Why hasn't Mizzou Athletics ever turned a profit (and don't confuse a budget surplus for a profit. They're not the same thing). There are NO major universities where the athletic department operates as a for-profit LLC. None.
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There are NO major universities where the athletic department operates as a for-profit LLC. None.
This is where you should say believed to be, because there would not be anyone who would admit it on record.

But a rose by any other name still smells as sweet.
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Re: Kentucky to spinoff Athletic Department as a separate LLC Company

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winonsports wrote: 18 May 2025 16:08 pm
There are NO major universities where the athletic department operates as a for-profit LLC. None.
This is where you should say believed to be, because there would not be anyone who would admit it on record.

But a rose by any other name still smells as sweet.
You're quite like The Black Knight in The Holy Grail. "It's just a flesh wound...."

So, your contention is that numerous universities are operating unregistered LLC's? Raking in secret profits right under the noses of state legislatures and boards of regents/trustees? Creating conditions that could lead to a kiss of death for their participation in all college sports? And implying that Mizzou is among that crowd?
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edwin drood wrote: 18 May 2025 17:26 pm
winonsports wrote: 18 May 2025 16:08 pm
There are NO major universities where the athletic department operates as a for-profit LLC. None.
This is where you should say believed to be, because there would not be anyone who would admit it on record.

But a rose by any other name still smells as sweet.
You're quite like The Black Knight in The Holy Grail. "It's just a flesh wound...."

So, your contention is that numerous universities are operating unregistered LLC's? Raking in secret profits right under the noses of state legislatures and boards of regents/trustees? Creating conditions that could lead to a kiss of death for their participation in all college sports? And implying that Mizzou is among that crowd?
Yes, you are correct that UK is the first to do this with their athletic department, and it will probably open the doors for many more to follow. Universities have long had separate budgets which is where the resident idiot is getting confused, but nothing like a true standalone business that can operate outside the eyes of the University and even the State Legislatures. In theory, the LLC could even be sold to another company or go public through an IPO with just one more legal maneuver. Imagine if UK athletic department was listed on the NYSE.
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Imagine if UK athletic department was listed on the NYSE.
Not big enough but a SEC holding company for all 16 athletic departments might get you there.
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jcgmoi wrote: 24 May 2025 16:22 pm
Imagine if UK athletic department was listed on the NYSE.
Not big enough but a SEC holding company for all 16 athletic departments might get you there.
For the NYSE a company needs to be worth round $40-50M. At a 10x multiple, you only need a net profit of around $4-5M/yr. Most P5 schools should be able to meet that threshold to go public. Plus, most schools have large followings that could draw big interest.
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