Where is your 'patience level' with Walker ?

[An Old Friend]

First, kudos to Jordan Walker for making a speedy running grab Monday night.

Now select from below the 'patience level' for Jordan Walker . Choose the one that best describes your feelings on him .

A. My patience has run out. He should be sent to Memphis immediately.
B. I would play him thru the end of May. If no turnaround by then, then bye bye
C. Play him thru end of July. If he hasn't looked good by then, consider trading him (if possible) or demoting him.
D. Stick with Walker for the full season. I am still optimistic about his future.

Thanks for your feedback on Jordan Walker.
Look forward to the results .

A without question... although I'd send him lower than Memphis.

1-27 in May with a 44% strikeout rate
.484 OPS vs RHP

He's unplayable and the majors are eating him alive. He needs to go away to do work, get in a lab, have some success at a lower level, and work his way back up.

[BrummerStealsHome]

Where is your 'patience level' with Walker ?

It annoys me to no end when he taps his pencil on his desk.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Walker is fckd up. Heck we the fan talking about him are fckd up. Man needs joint and a quick decision.

If anyone ever need to just get away. I’d bet he is a candidate.

[Lefley 25]

A he needs to be in a league with A’s in it

[imadangman]

I agree with those saying he should be sent somewhere lower than Memphis. The fact that we are even talking about sending him back down means that Walker is now a serious project, and I don't think we should expect to see him back for a long time.

I am looking at BBreference pages for Kyle Lewis, Lewis Brinson. That's the territory Walker is entering here. The saving grace, as usual, is that Walker is still 22 and those guys were 23 when they made their debut. So, I guess there is a chance. 22 is still young but we can only use that excuse for so long. He'll be 23 in a week. Seems like this is about the time we should be seeing him excel. But he is on a completely different trajectory, nowhere near giving any sign of confidence that a breakthrough is near. How can you cultivate an optimistic trajectory for him at this point.

[11WSChamps]

Llike I said in another thread he isn't doing his future or the ballclub any good dwindling away to nothing here.

Frankly if the ballclub is to contend in this division it really isn't practical to have here with little to no chance to contribute.

If the ballclub was floundering and there wasn't any real pressure to produce the just maybe it might be a different story.

[Goldfan]

Llike I said in another thread he isn't doing his future or the ballclub any good dwindling away to nothing here.

Frankly if the ballclub is to contend in this division it really isn't practical to have here with little to no chance to contribute.

If the ballclub was floundering and there wasn't any real pressure to produce the just maybe it might be a different story.

A winning club has no place for him. And it surely isn’t helping him

[sikeston bulldog2]

Llike I said in another thread he isn't doing his future or the ballclub any good dwindling away to nothing here.

Frankly if the ballclub is to contend in this division it really isn't practical to have here with little to no chance to contribute.

If the ballclub was floundering and there wasn't any real pressure to produce the just maybe it might be a different story.

Nice write. Yes this streak has everyone giddy. Everyone wants to change course after a week of good baseball.

Walker is not only feeling the pressure to just hit, but now the added pressure of a faux pennant race.

And now the fan base.

[JDW]

Llike I said in another thread he isn't doing his future or the ballclub any good dwindling away to nothing here.

Frankly if the ballclub is to contend in this division it really isn't practical to have here with little to no chance to contribute.

If the ballclub was floundering and there wasn't any real pressure to produce the just maybe it might be a different story.

Nice write. Yes this streak has everyone giddy. Everyone wants to change course after a week of good baseball.

Walker is not only feeling the pressure to just hit, but now the added pressure of a faux pennant race.

And now the fan base.

Hey, us fans are fickle.
Depressed one week, giddy the next.
Sure, put up the weather vane, I deserve it.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Llike I said in another thread he isn't doing his future or the ballclub any good dwindling away to nothing here.

Frankly if the ballclub is to contend in this division it really isn't practical to have here with little to no chance to contribute.

If the ballclub was floundering and there wasn't any real pressure to produce the just maybe it might be a different story.

Nice write. Yes this streak has everyone giddy. Everyone wants to change course after a week of good baseball.

Walker is not only feeling the pressure to just hit, but now the added pressure of a faux pennant race.

And now the fan base.

Hey, us fans are fickle.
Depressed one week, giddy the next.
Sure, put up the weather vane, I deserve it.

I was only referring to the reset.everyone wants to move forward way faster than the plan allows. Success is blinding. Bright lights and all.

Good news. If we are this talented, as the reset was designed to show, just think when we add those couple pieces to go with this young core.

[11WSChamps]

Llike I said in another thread he isn't doing his future or the ballclub any good dwindling away to nothing here.

Frankly if the ballclub is to contend in this division it really isn't practical to have here with little to no chance to contribute.

If the ballclub was floundering and there wasn't any real pressure to produce the just maybe it might be a different story.

Nice write. Yes this streak has everyone giddy. Everyone wants to change course after a week of good baseball.

Walker is not only feeling the pressure to just hit, but now the added pressure of a faux pennant race.

And now the fan base.

Well as an organization especially in this division the ability to adapt is prudent.

Unlike the East and West even a team near the bottom of the standings is a winning streak away from respectability.

And here we are. Again that being the case putting your best foot forward to winwith the most productive players available is not only common sense but is most fair to the other 25 players on the roster.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Llike I said in another thread he isn't doing his future or the ballclub any good dwindling away to nothing here.

Frankly if the ballclub is to contend in this division it really isn't practical to have here with little to no chance to contribute.

If the ballclub was floundering and there wasn't any real pressure to produce the just maybe it might be a different story.

Nice write. Yes this streak has everyone giddy. Everyone wants to change course after a week of good baseball.

Walker is not only feeling the pressure to just hit, but now the added pressure of a faux pennant race.

And now the fan base.

Well as an organization especially in this division the ability to adapt is prudent.

Unlike the East and West even a team near the bottom of the standings is a winning streak away from respectability.

And here we are. Again that being the case putting your best foot forward to winwith the most productive players available is not only common sense but is most fair to the other 25 players on the roster.

In battles you must remain fluid on the battlefield, ready for a tweak here or there. I use just as a profession reference.
That’s business too. Good plans have flex ability. Same here.

the plan to assess is moving very fast, and a slow down is coming. Which will better lay the ground work, data driven, to assess the performance of the young.

[blackinkbiz]

Llike I said in another thread he isn't doing his future or the ballclub any good dwindling away to nothing here.

Frankly if the ballclub is to contend in this division it really isn't practical to have here with little to no chance to contribute.

If the ballclub was floundering and there wasn't any real pressure to produce the just maybe it might be a different story.

Nice write. Yes this streak has everyone giddy. Everyone wants to change course after a week of good baseball.

Walker is not only feeling the pressure to just hit, but now the added pressure of a faux pennant race.

And now the fan base.

Hey, us fans are fickle.
Depressed one week, giddy the next.
Sure, put up the weather vane, I deserve it.

I was only referring to the reset.everyone wants to move forward way faster than the plan allows. Success is blinding. Bright lights and all.

Good news. If we are this talented, as the reset was designed to show, just think when we add those couple pieces to go with this young core.

Here's the thing... This year may have technically been designated as the "reset," but it actually began in 2023. Since the Yadi/Pujols/Waino era ended (even though Waino made us suffer through one extra year) the Cards have graduated players at every single position, including several utility position players.

So you may think this is a "fake pennant chase," but the reason I thought the Cards were capable of winning 90 games and the division isn't because I'm some blind homer. It's because a lot of their young talent is coming into its own and they've cut the fat of several guys who were doing more harm than good (TO, DC, Taylor Motter, Waino, MCarp, Crawford, etc).

[CorneliusWolfe]

Between C and D.

The fact that he’s made such an improvement defensively is his saving grace right now. And with the health of the team so far and the emergence of VS2, the lineup is deep enough to withstand having him in the lineup with the regulars in there.

Same here. C/D. Right now the defense seems to be the most sustainable team strength and JW has been a key contributor. Maybe they can alleviate a little pressure the same way they did with MW. Tell him to remain focused on being an elite defender and try to relax a little at the plate. Of course elite D at SS more critical than RF. If he was 25yo I’d think differently but this kid was the #1 rated prospect not too long ago and was definitely called up too soon, then maybe sent down too soon after a nice streak and swing messed with only to be told to go back to AA swing. We suffered through Burleson’s growing pains, why not the kid w/the major upside?

[sikeston bulldog2]

Llike I said in another thread he isn't doing his future or the ballclub any good dwindling away to nothing here.

Frankly if the ballclub is to contend in this division it really isn't practical to have here with little to no chance to contribute.

If the ballclub was floundering and there wasn't any real pressure to produce the just maybe it might be a different story.

Nice write. Yes this streak has everyone giddy. Everyone wants to change course after a week of good baseball.

Walker is not only feeling the pressure to just hit, but now the added pressure of a faux pennant race.

And now the fan base.

Hey, us fans are fickle.
Depressed one week, giddy the next.
Sure, put up the weather vane, I deserve it.

I was only referring to the reset.everyone wants to move forward way faster than the plan allows. Success is blinding. Bright lights and all.

Good news. If we are this talented, as the reset was designed to show, just think when we add those couple pieces to go with this young core.

Here's the thing... This year may have technically been designated as the "reset," but it actually began in 2023. Since the Yadi/Pujols/Waino era ended (even though Waino made us suffer through one extra year) the Cards have graduated players at every single position, including several utility position players.

So you may think this is a "fake pennant chase," but the reason I thought the Cards were capable of winning 90 games and the division isn't because I'm some blind homer. It's because a lot of their young talent is coming into its own and they've cut the fat of several guys who were doing more harm than good (TO, DC, Taylor Motter, Waino, MCarp, Crawford, etc).

Good write. Fake May have been harsh. How about during this - intrigued Pennant race.

I see your point. If correct we should then compete next year. This year a previews

[Quincy Varnish]

First, kudos to Jordan Walker for making a speedy running grab Monday night.

Now select from below the 'patience level' for Jordan Walker . Choose the one that best describes your feelings on him .

A. My patience has run out. He should be sent to Memphis immediately.
B. I would play him thru the end of May. If no turnaround by then, then bye bye
C. Play him thru end of July. If he hasn't looked good by then, consider trading him (if possible) or demoting him.
D. Stick with Walker for the full season. I am still optimistic about his future.

Thanks for your feedback on Jordan Walker.
Look forward to the results .

A without question... although I'd send him lower than Memphis.

1-27 in May with a 44% strikeout rate
.484 OPS vs RHP

He's unplayable and the majors are eating him alive. He needs to go away to do work, get in a lab, have some success at a lower level, and work his way back up.

You send him to AA and he’ll just get fat on dead red fastballs. IMO he needs to make adjustments at the major league level.