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Re: Looking fot info on Prospects

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moose-and-squirrel wrote: 11 May 2025 09:38 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 10 May 2025 21:19 pm
seattleblue wrote: 10 May 2025 15:36 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 10 May 2025 15:18 pm
seattleblue wrote: 10 May 2025 14:59 pm
Rollie Fingers wrote: 10 May 2025 12:09 pm Where can people follow these prospects on the internet? in order to watch these guys and see them develop, where can you follow them?
If you spend an hour or two making a spreadsheet with the schedule of each prospect's games throughout the year then vpn+onhockey can be popped on any time they're playing. There were even English language broadcasts of SHL playoffs during Lindstein's whole run this year.

Colin Ralph at Michigan State, Fischer for Sarnia, Jiricek for Brantford, and Jecho/Mrsic/McIsaac out here in the WHL are on my radar for next year along with Springfield games. Then there will also be their first rounder this year, wherever he is playing. If it's Cootes (I hope it's not, 19 is too high for him) then I'll get to see him in person a lot more. There are plenty of WHLers who the pick could be. Lakovic, Reschny, Bear, Kindel ...
What don’t you like about Cootes? Did you see him at the U18s? I agree he looked hit and miss for Seattle but he looked excellent for Canada at the U18s. Seattle was pretty bad this year but he was still their leading scorer, and Captain, at age 17. Did he just not have any linemates to work with? He looked like a different player once he had actual talent around him at the U18s. He’s someone I’m going to have to watch more of but as of now, I’d be happy with him at 19.
I want more consistent pop from him. Long stretches where I was like "don't they have Cootes?"
The critique of my critique is that you could say this about Stancl.
But the reply to that is Stancl would not have been a great 19th overall pick,
With Cootes it's more an instinctive feeling of "we can do better here"
If they do pick him at 19 then I will get to watch him closely a lot, so it's in my interest.
True, but Cootes was 17 and Stancl was 19. That’s a big difference in Jr hockey.

While I share your enthusiasm for Stancl and his growth this season, I don’t view him quite as highly. I see someone that looks like a likely future 3LW. Just don’t see the 1st line potential you see…but would be thrilled to be wrong.

I value Pekarcik a bit higher…but it’s really close. I think Pekarcik’s hockey sense and playmaking in particular are better. But Stancl is better at some of the intangibles that make for a good bottom-6 winger…which is where I think both project so maybe that does give Stancl the edge after all. Idk. Both should be in Springfield next season so we should have a better idea then.
sounds like Springfield is gonna be packed next year. do they finally jettison the MacMac's and Peca's..etc?
I hope not.
You need a couple vets down there to provide some leadership.
Peca and MacMac are good in their roles.

I'm fine letting the "non-prospect" types like McGing and Andonovski walk but you don't want to completely purge the Springfield roster of vets. But you keep a handful of NHL capable vets down there to mentor the incoming kids. Peca and especially MacMac are great for that kind of role.
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Re: Looking fot info on Prospects

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kimzey59 wrote: 11 May 2025 09:50 am
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 11 May 2025 09:38 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 10 May 2025 21:19 pm
seattleblue wrote: 10 May 2025 15:36 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 10 May 2025 15:18 pm
seattleblue wrote: 10 May 2025 14:59 pm
Rollie Fingers wrote: 10 May 2025 12:09 pm Where can people follow these prospects on the internet? in order to watch these guys and see them develop, where can you follow them?
If you spend an hour or two making a spreadsheet with the schedule of each prospect's games throughout the year then vpn+onhockey can be popped on any time they're playing. There were even English language broadcasts of SHL playoffs during Lindstein's whole run this year.

Colin Ralph at Michigan State, Fischer for Sarnia, Jiricek for Brantford, and Jecho/Mrsic/McIsaac out here in the WHL are on my radar for next year along with Springfield games. Then there will also be their first rounder this year, wherever he is playing. If it's Cootes (I hope it's not, 19 is too high for him) then I'll get to see him in person a lot more. There are plenty of WHLers who the pick could be. Lakovic, Reschny, Bear, Kindel ...
What don’t you like about Cootes? Did you see him at the U18s? I agree he looked hit and miss for Seattle but he looked excellent for Canada at the U18s. Seattle was pretty bad this year but he was still their leading scorer, and Captain, at age 17. Did he just not have any linemates to work with? He looked like a different player once he had actual talent around him at the U18s. He’s someone I’m going to have to watch more of but as of now, I’d be happy with him at 19.
I want more consistent pop from him. Long stretches where I was like "don't they have Cootes?"
The critique of my critique is that you could say this about Stancl.
But the reply to that is Stancl would not have been a great 19th overall pick,
With Cootes it's more an instinctive feeling of "we can do better here"
If they do pick him at 19 then I will get to watch him closely a lot, so it's in my interest.
True, but Cootes was 17 and Stancl was 19. That’s a big difference in Jr hockey.

While I share your enthusiasm for Stancl and his growth this season, I don’t view him quite as highly. I see someone that looks like a likely future 3LW. Just don’t see the 1st line potential you see…but would be thrilled to be wrong.

I value Pekarcik a bit higher…but it’s really close. I think Pekarcik’s hockey sense and playmaking in particular are better. But Stancl is better at some of the intangibles that make for a good bottom-6 winger…which is where I think both project so maybe that does give Stancl the edge after all. Idk. Both should be in Springfield next season so we should have a better idea then.
sounds like Springfield is gonna be packed next year. do they finally jettison the MacMac's and Peca's..etc?
I hope not.
You need a couple vets down there to provide some leadership.
Peca and MacMac are good in their roles.

I'm fine letting the "non-prospect" types like McGing and Andonovski walk but you don't want to completely purge the Springfield roster of vets. But you keep a handful of NHL capable vets down there to mentor the incoming kids. Peca and especially MacMac are great for that kind of role.
was just using them as examples, but yeah, something's gotta give to get 'prospects' a spot and ice time
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Pekarcik second star in game 1 of QMJHL finals. 1 goal 1 assist. Right Wing. Impressive 2 seasons in North America for this young man child.
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Pekarcik looks like a great Robin to someone's Batman to me.

If Dvorsky reaches his potential that is a clear top two center.
But it will take 3-4 years the way it took for Thomas IMO.
The glaring area of need is RD. We have Parayko Faulk Tucker and two prospects, Jiricek and McIsaac.
LD has Fowler, Broberg, Lindstein, Fischer, Burns, Ralph and Leddy for now. LD is a vast area of improvement over the last 12 months since 12 months ago they only had Lindstein, Burns and Leddy among that group.
Cannot say enough how important the forward quartet of Holloway, Neighbours, Bolduc, Snuggy have been from the 2020-2022 drafts. But that quartet's potency is why we suddenly have so much potential now, Picks 14, 26, 17, 23.

LW (some with swiss Army versatility to play RW)
Holloway
Buchnevich
Neighbours
Stenberg – I think there could be a time in 4-5 years where we say "this is our best winger." Consider how good this team will be if Stenberg is in fact equal to or better than Holloway.
Toropchenko
Kaskimaki
Stancl
Pekarcik

RW - I see three 25-35 goal scorers here
Kyrou
Snuggy
Bolduc
Walker

C - In the 25-26 season, they need to bring in someone from the outside IMO. They need one bridge until Dvorsky is ready
Thomas
Schenn
Dvorsky
Sunny
Dean/Faksa

Peterson, Mrsic and Jecho may also be viable forwards, and there are my blind spots Kos and Korotky
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seattleblue wrote: 11 May 2025 10:52 am Pekarcik looks like a great Robin to someone's Batman to me.

If Dvorsky reaches his potential that is a clear top two center.
But it will take 3-4 years the way it took for Thomas IMO.
The glaring area of need is RD. We have Parayko Faulk Tucker and two prospects, Jiricek and McIsaac.
LD has Fowler, Broberg, Lindstein, Fischer, Burns, Ralph and Leddy for now. LD is a vast area of improvement over the last 12 months since 12 months ago they only had Lindstein, Burns and Leddy among that group.
Cannot say enough how important the forward quartet of Holloway, Neighbours, Bolduc, Snuggy have been from the 2020-2022 drafts. But that quartet's potency is why we suddenly have so much potential now, Picks 14, 26, 17, 23.

LW (some with swiss Army versatility to play RW)
Holloway
Buchnevich
Neighbours
Stenberg – I think there could be a time in 4-5 years where we say "this is our best winger." Consider how good this team will be if Stenberg is in fact equal to or better than Holloway.
Toropchenko
Kaskimaki
Stancl
Pekarcik

RW - I see three 25-35 goal scorers here
Kyrou
Snuggy
Bolduc
Walker

C - In the 25-26 season, they need to bring in someone from the outside IMO. They need one bridge until Dvorsky is ready
Thomas
Schenn
Dvorsky
Sunny
Dean/Faksa

Peterson, Mrsic and Jecho may also be viable forwards, and there are my blind spots Kos and Korotky
Tucker should actually be a LD, and McIsaac didn't impress me at all in camp
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Re: Looking fot info on Prospects

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kimzey59 wrote: 11 May 2025 09:50 am
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 11 May 2025 09:38 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 10 May 2025 21:19 pm
seattleblue wrote: 10 May 2025 15:36 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 10 May 2025 15:18 pm
seattleblue wrote: 10 May 2025 14:59 pm
Rollie Fingers wrote: 10 May 2025 12:09 pm Where can people follow these prospects on the internet? in order to watch these guys and see them develop, where can you follow them?
If you spend an hour or two making a spreadsheet with the schedule of each prospect's games throughout the year then vpn+onhockey can be popped on any time they're playing. There were even English language broadcasts of SHL playoffs during Lindstein's whole run this year.

Colin Ralph at Michigan State, Fischer for Sarnia, Jiricek for Brantford, and Jecho/Mrsic/McIsaac out here in the WHL are on my radar for next year along with Springfield games. Then there will also be their first rounder this year, wherever he is playing. If it's Cootes (I hope it's not, 19 is too high for him) then I'll get to see him in person a lot more. There are plenty of WHLers who the pick could be. Lakovic, Reschny, Bear, Kindel ...
What don’t you like about Cootes? Did you see him at the U18s? I agree he looked hit and miss for Seattle but he looked excellent for Canada at the U18s. Seattle was pretty bad this year but he was still their leading scorer, and Captain, at age 17. Did he just not have any linemates to work with? He looked like a different player once he had actual talent around him at the U18s. He’s someone I’m going to have to watch more of but as of now, I’d be happy with him at 19.
I want more consistent pop from him. Long stretches where I was like "don't they have Cootes?"
The critique of my critique is that you could say this about Stancl.
But the reply to that is Stancl would not have been a great 19th overall pick,
With Cootes it's more an instinctive feeling of "we can do better here"
If they do pick him at 19 then I will get to watch him closely a lot, so it's in my interest.
True, but Cootes was 17 and Stancl was 19. That’s a big difference in Jr hockey.

While I share your enthusiasm for Stancl and his growth this season, I don’t view him quite as highly. I see someone that looks like a likely future 3LW. Just don’t see the 1st line potential you see…but would be thrilled to be wrong.

I value Pekarcik a bit higher…but it’s really close. I think Pekarcik’s hockey sense and playmaking in particular are better. But Stancl is better at some of the intangibles that make for a good bottom-6 winger…which is where I think both project so maybe that does give Stancl the edge after all. Idk. Both should be in Springfield next season so we should have a better idea then.
sounds like Springfield is gonna be packed next year. do they finally jettison the MacMac's and Peca's..etc?
I hope not.
You need a couple vets down there to provide some leadership.
Peca and MacMac are good in their roles.

I'm fine letting the "non-prospect" types like McGing and Andonovski walk but you don't want to completely purge the Springfield roster of vets. But you keep a handful of NHL capable vets down there to mentor the incoming kids. Peca and especially MacMac are great for that kind of role.
Agree with this. You need a handful of those vets to lead the way, show the kids how to be pros etc.
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Re: Looking fot info on Prospects

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STL fan in MN wrote: 11 May 2025 11:46 am
kimzey59 wrote: 11 May 2025 09:50 am
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 11 May 2025 09:38 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 10 May 2025 21:19 pm
seattleblue wrote: 10 May 2025 15:36 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 10 May 2025 15:18 pm
seattleblue wrote: 10 May 2025 14:59 pm
Rollie Fingers wrote: 10 May 2025 12:09 pm Where can people follow these prospects on the internet? in order to watch these guys and see them develop, where can you follow them?
If you spend an hour or two making a spreadsheet with the schedule of each prospect's games throughout the year then vpn+onhockey can be popped on any time they're playing. There were even English language broadcasts of SHL playoffs during Lindstein's whole run this year.

Colin Ralph at Michigan State, Fischer for Sarnia, Jiricek for Brantford, and Jecho/Mrsic/McIsaac out here in the WHL are on my radar for next year along with Springfield games. Then there will also be their first rounder this year, wherever he is playing. If it's Cootes (I hope it's not, 19 is too high for him) then I'll get to see him in person a lot more. There are plenty of WHLers who the pick could be. Lakovic, Reschny, Bear, Kindel ...
What don’t you like about Cootes? Did you see him at the U18s? I agree he looked hit and miss for Seattle but he looked excellent for Canada at the U18s. Seattle was pretty bad this year but he was still their leading scorer, and Captain, at age 17. Did he just not have any linemates to work with? He looked like a different player once he had actual talent around him at the U18s. He’s someone I’m going to have to watch more of but as of now, I’d be happy with him at 19.
I want more consistent pop from him. Long stretches where I was like "don't they have Cootes?"
The critique of my critique is that you could say this about Stancl.
But the reply to that is Stancl would not have been a great 19th overall pick,
With Cootes it's more an instinctive feeling of "we can do better here"
If they do pick him at 19 then I will get to watch him closely a lot, so it's in my interest.
True, but Cootes was 17 and Stancl was 19. That’s a big difference in Jr hockey.

While I share your enthusiasm for Stancl and his growth this season, I don’t view him quite as highly. I see someone that looks like a likely future 3LW. Just don’t see the 1st line potential you see…but would be thrilled to be wrong.

I value Pekarcik a bit higher…but it’s really close. I think Pekarcik’s hockey sense and playmaking in particular are better. But Stancl is better at some of the intangibles that make for a good bottom-6 winger…which is where I think both project so maybe that does give Stancl the edge after all. Idk. Both should be in Springfield next season so we should have a better idea then.
sounds like Springfield is gonna be packed next year. do they finally jettison the MacMac's and Peca's..etc?
I hope not.
You need a couple vets down there to provide some leadership.
Peca and MacMac are good in their roles.

I'm fine letting the "non-prospect" types like McGing and Andonovski walk but you don't want to completely purge the Springfield roster of vets. But you keep a handful of NHL capable vets down there to mentor the incoming kids. Peca and especially MacMac are great for that kind of role.
Agree with this. You need a handful of those vets to lead the way, show the kids how to be pros etc.
also agree, but there's at least 6 forwards that could be dropped and you'd never know the difference
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seattleblue wrote: 10 May 2025 11:51 am
SameOldBlues wrote: 08 May 2025 18:43 pm STL fan in MN: The more I see/hear you and others rave about Fischer, the more excited I get about him. But clear something up for me please, so I can set my expectations accordingly…

If he reaches his top potential, would you say he has a legitimate shot at being…

1. A #1 Dman?
2. A top pairing Dman?
3. A Top 4 Dman?

Thanks, Ill hang up and listen while my expectations glisten. :)
Fischer's stratosphere level of overachievement = Pronger.
The components of Fischer's game, used in combination at an elite performance level = Pronger type performer
His skating at its high end directly reminds me of Pronger's skating glide. Their bodies look alike out there.
Fischer is mean, plays with an edge, in the middle of scrums often instigated by his presence, has a bomb of a shot. Leader, young captain. Would be a first rounder this year if a couple weeks younger.
I do not believe he will turn into Pronger, I am saying his top end glimpses are in a Pronger direction.

Fischer's foreseeable overachievement = top pair dman
I am personally kind of here. High hopes. Partly because his dad (who left the NHL like Bouwmeester did) is Director of Player Evaluation for an NHL team. I think they work together privately behind the scenes.

Fischer's realistic projection = top 4 dman, a Mikkola type (Mikkola now)

Bottom pairing seems like an underachievement for this player to me.

For Sarnia next year, it will be interesting if his goal scoring (he was 5th in the OHL for defensemen in goals this year) remains an improving area.
Great replies from Stl fan in MB and you both, thanks…I love hearing your guy’s opinions on everything prospect related
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SameOldBlues wrote: 11 May 2025 13:12 pm
seattleblue wrote: 10 May 2025 11:51 am
SameOldBlues wrote: 08 May 2025 18:43 pm STL fan in MN: The more I see/hear you and others rave about Fischer, the more excited I get about him. But clear something up for me please, so I can set my expectations accordingly…

If he reaches his top potential, would you say he has a legitimate shot at being…

1. A #1 Dman?
2. A top pairing Dman?
3. A Top 4 Dman?

Thanks, Ill hang up and listen while my expectations glisten. :)
Fischer's stratosphere level of overachievement = Pronger.
The components of Fischer's game, used in combination at an elite performance level = Pronger type performer
His skating at its high end directly reminds me of Pronger's skating glide. Their bodies look alike out there.
Fischer is mean, plays with an edge, in the middle of scrums often instigated by his presence, has a bomb of a shot. Leader, young captain. Would be a first rounder this year if a couple weeks younger.
I do not believe he will turn into Pronger, I am saying his top end glimpses are in a Pronger direction.

Fischer's foreseeable overachievement = top pair dman
I am personally kind of here. High hopes. Partly because his dad (who left the NHL like Bouwmeester did) is Director of Player Evaluation for an NHL team. I think they work together privately behind the scenes.

Fischer's realistic projection = top 4 dman, a Mikkola type (Mikkola now)

Bottom pairing seems like an underachievement for this player to me.

For Sarnia next year, it will be interesting if his goal scoring (he was 5th in the OHL for defensemen in goals this year) remains an improving area.
Great replies from Stl fan in MB and you both, thanks…I love hearing your guy’s opinions on everything prospect related
God willing, I will never be STL fan from Manitoba. Minnesota is far north enough. :wink:

But appreciate the compliment. There’s been lots of good discussion here the last few days.
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moose-and-squirrel wrote: 11 May 2025 12:13 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 11 May 2025 11:46 am
kimzey59 wrote: 11 May 2025 09:50 am
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 11 May 2025 09:38 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 10 May 2025 21:19 pm
seattleblue wrote: 10 May 2025 15:36 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 10 May 2025 15:18 pm
seattleblue wrote: 10 May 2025 14:59 pm
Rollie Fingers wrote: 10 May 2025 12:09 pm Where can people follow these prospects on the internet? in order to watch these guys and see them develop, where can you follow them?
If you spend an hour or two making a spreadsheet with the schedule of each prospect's games throughout the year then vpn+onhockey can be popped on any time they're playing. There were even English language broadcasts of SHL playoffs during Lindstein's whole run this year.

Colin Ralph at Michigan State, Fischer for Sarnia, Jiricek for Brantford, and Jecho/Mrsic/McIsaac out here in the WHL are on my radar for next year along with Springfield games. Then there will also be their first rounder this year, wherever he is playing. If it's Cootes (I hope it's not, 19 is too high for him) then I'll get to see him in person a lot more. There are plenty of WHLers who the pick could be. Lakovic, Reschny, Bear, Kindel ...
What don’t you like about Cootes? Did you see him at the U18s? I agree he looked hit and miss for Seattle but he looked excellent for Canada at the U18s. Seattle was pretty bad this year but he was still their leading scorer, and Captain, at age 17. Did he just not have any linemates to work with? He looked like a different player once he had actual talent around him at the U18s. He’s someone I’m going to have to watch more of but as of now, I’d be happy with him at 19.
I want more consistent pop from him. Long stretches where I was like "don't they have Cootes?"
The critique of my critique is that you could say this about Stancl.
But the reply to that is Stancl would not have been a great 19th overall pick,
With Cootes it's more an instinctive feeling of "we can do better here"
If they do pick him at 19 then I will get to watch him closely a lot, so it's in my interest.
True, but Cootes was 17 and Stancl was 19. That’s a big difference in Jr hockey.

While I share your enthusiasm for Stancl and his growth this season, I don’t view him quite as highly. I see someone that looks like a likely future 3LW. Just don’t see the 1st line potential you see…but would be thrilled to be wrong.

I value Pekarcik a bit higher…but it’s really close. I think Pekarcik’s hockey sense and playmaking in particular are better. But Stancl is better at some of the intangibles that make for a good bottom-6 winger…which is where I think both project so maybe that does give Stancl the edge after all. Idk. Both should be in Springfield next season so we should have a better idea then.
sounds like Springfield is gonna be packed next year. do they finally jettison the MacMac's and Peca's..etc?
I hope not.
You need a couple vets down there to provide some leadership.
Peca and MacMac are good in their roles.

I'm fine letting the "non-prospect" types like McGing and Andonovski walk but you don't want to completely purge the Springfield roster of vets. But you keep a handful of NHL capable vets down there to mentor the incoming kids. Peca and especially MacMac are great for that kind of role.
Agree with this. You need a handful of those vets to lead the way, show the kids how to be pros etc.
also agree, but there's at least 6 forwards that could be dropped and you'd never know the difference
Which 6?
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Re: Looking fot info on Prospects

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STL fan in MN wrote: 11 May 2025 13:25 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 11 May 2025 12:13 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 11 May 2025 11:46 am
kimzey59 wrote: 11 May 2025 09:50 am
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 11 May 2025 09:38 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 10 May 2025 21:19 pm
seattleblue wrote: 10 May 2025 15:36 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 10 May 2025 15:18 pm
seattleblue wrote: 10 May 2025 14:59 pm
Rollie Fingers wrote: 10 May 2025 12:09 pm Where can people follow these prospects on the internet? in order to watch these guys and see them develop, where can you follow them?
If you spend an hour or two making a spreadsheet with the schedule of each prospect's games throughout the year then vpn+onhockey can be popped on any time they're playing. There were even English language broadcasts of SHL playoffs during Lindstein's whole run this year.

Colin Ralph at Michigan State, Fischer for Sarnia, Jiricek for Brantford, and Jecho/Mrsic/McIsaac out here in the WHL are on my radar for next year along with Springfield games. Then there will also be their first rounder this year, wherever he is playing. If it's Cootes (I hope it's not, 19 is too high for him) then I'll get to see him in person a lot more. There are plenty of WHLers who the pick could be. Lakovic, Reschny, Bear, Kindel ...
What don’t you like about Cootes? Did you see him at the U18s? I agree he looked hit and miss for Seattle but he looked excellent for Canada at the U18s. Seattle was pretty bad this year but he was still their leading scorer, and Captain, at age 17. Did he just not have any linemates to work with? He looked like a different player once he had actual talent around him at the U18s. He’s someone I’m going to have to watch more of but as of now, I’d be happy with him at 19.
I want more consistent pop from him. Long stretches where I was like "don't they have Cootes?"
The critique of my critique is that you could say this about Stancl.
But the reply to that is Stancl would not have been a great 19th overall pick,
With Cootes it's more an instinctive feeling of "we can do better here"
If they do pick him at 19 then I will get to watch him closely a lot, so it's in my interest.
True, but Cootes was 17 and Stancl was 19. That’s a big difference in Jr hockey.

While I share your enthusiasm for Stancl and his growth this season, I don’t view him quite as highly. I see someone that looks like a likely future 3LW. Just don’t see the 1st line potential you see…but would be thrilled to be wrong.

I value Pekarcik a bit higher…but it’s really close. I think Pekarcik’s hockey sense and playmaking in particular are better. But Stancl is better at some of the intangibles that make for a good bottom-6 winger…which is where I think both project so maybe that does give Stancl the edge after all. Idk. Both should be in Springfield next season so we should have a better idea then.
sounds like Springfield is gonna be packed next year. do they finally jettison the MacMac's and Peca's..etc?
I hope not.
You need a couple vets down there to provide some leadership.
Peca and MacMac are good in their roles.

I'm fine letting the "non-prospect" types like McGing and Andonovski walk but you don't want to completely purge the Springfield roster of vets. But you keep a handful of NHL capable vets down there to mentor the incoming kids. Peca and especially MacMac are great for that kind of role.
Agree with this. You need a handful of those vets to lead the way, show the kids how to be pros etc.
also agree, but there's at least 6 forwards that could be dropped and you'd never know the difference
Which 6?
callin, luff, bitten, andonovski, dickinson, kessy, mcging

don't think you'd miss any of them
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STL fan in MN wrote: 11 May 2025 13:22 pm
SameOldBlues wrote: 11 May 2025 13:12 pm
seattleblue wrote: 10 May 2025 11:51 am
SameOldBlues wrote: 08 May 2025 18:43 pm STL fan in MN: The more I see/hear you and others rave about Fischer, the more excited I get about him. But clear something up for me please, so I can set my expectations accordingly…

If he reaches his top potential, would you say he has a legitimate shot at being…

1. A #1 Dman?
2. A top pairing Dman?
3. A Top 4 Dman?

Thanks, Ill hang up and listen while my expectations glisten. :)
Fischer's stratosphere level of overachievement = Pronger.
The components of Fischer's game, used in combination at an elite performance level = Pronger type performer
His skating at its high end directly reminds me of Pronger's skating glide. Their bodies look alike out there.
Fischer is mean, plays with an edge, in the middle of scrums often instigated by his presence, has a bomb of a shot. Leader, young captain. Would be a first rounder this year if a couple weeks younger.
I do not believe he will turn into Pronger, I am saying his top end glimpses are in a Pronger direction.

Fischer's foreseeable overachievement = top pair dman
I am personally kind of here. High hopes. Partly because his dad (who left the NHL like Bouwmeester did) is Director of Player Evaluation for an NHL team. I think they work together privately behind the scenes.

Fischer's realistic projection = top 4 dman, a Mikkola type (Mikkola now)

Bottom pairing seems like an underachievement for this player to me.

For Sarnia next year, it will be interesting if his goal scoring (he was 5th in the OHL for defensemen in goals this year) remains an improving area.
Great replies from Stl fan in MB and you both, thanks…I love hearing your guy’s opinions on everything prospect related
God willing, I will never be STL fan from Manitoba. Minnesota is far north enough. :wink:

But appreciate the compliment. There’s been lots of good discussion here the last few days.
Hahaha, my bad…Proofreading isnt my strong suit. But at least the MB wasnt future destination for… MY BASEMENT :)
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Re: Looking fot info on Prospects

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moose-and-squirrel wrote: 11 May 2025 13:31 pm
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moose-and-squirrel wrote: 11 May 2025 12:13 pm
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STL fan in MN wrote: 10 May 2025 21:19 pm
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Rollie Fingers wrote: 10 May 2025 12:09 pm Where can people follow these prospects on the internet? in order to watch these guys and see them develop, where can you follow them?
If you spend an hour or two making a spreadsheet with the schedule of each prospect's games throughout the year then vpn+onhockey can be popped on any time they're playing. There were even English language broadcasts of SHL playoffs during Lindstein's whole run this year.

Colin Ralph at Michigan State, Fischer for Sarnia, Jiricek for Brantford, and Jecho/Mrsic/McIsaac out here in the WHL are on my radar for next year along with Springfield games. Then there will also be their first rounder this year, wherever he is playing. If it's Cootes (I hope it's not, 19 is too high for him) then I'll get to see him in person a lot more. There are plenty of WHLers who the pick could be. Lakovic, Reschny, Bear, Kindel ...
What don’t you like about Cootes? Did you see him at the U18s? I agree he looked hit and miss for Seattle but he looked excellent for Canada at the U18s. Seattle was pretty bad this year but he was still their leading scorer, and Captain, at age 17. Did he just not have any linemates to work with? He looked like a different player once he had actual talent around him at the U18s. He’s someone I’m going to have to watch more of but as of now, I’d be happy with him at 19.
I want more consistent pop from him. Long stretches where I was like "don't they have Cootes?"
The critique of my critique is that you could say this about Stancl.
But the reply to that is Stancl would not have been a great 19th overall pick,
With Cootes it's more an instinctive feeling of "we can do better here"
If they do pick him at 19 then I will get to watch him closely a lot, so it's in my interest.
True, but Cootes was 17 and Stancl was 19. That’s a big difference in Jr hockey.

While I share your enthusiasm for Stancl and his growth this season, I don’t view him quite as highly. I see someone that looks like a likely future 3LW. Just don’t see the 1st line potential you see…but would be thrilled to be wrong.

I value Pekarcik a bit higher…but it’s really close. I think Pekarcik’s hockey sense and playmaking in particular are better. But Stancl is better at some of the intangibles that make for a good bottom-6 winger…which is where I think both project so maybe that does give Stancl the edge after all. Idk. Both should be in Springfield next season so we should have a better idea then.
sounds like Springfield is gonna be packed next year. do they finally jettison the MacMac's and Peca's..etc?
I hope not.
You need a couple vets down there to provide some leadership.
Peca and MacMac are good in their roles.

I'm fine letting the "non-prospect" types like McGing and Andonovski walk but you don't want to completely purge the Springfield roster of vets. But you keep a handful of NHL capable vets down there to mentor the incoming kids. Peca and especially MacMac are great for that kind of role.
Agree with this. You need a handful of those vets to lead the way, show the kids how to be pros etc.
also agree, but there's at least 6 forwards that could be dropped and you'd never know the difference
Which 6?
callin, luff, bitten, andonovski, dickinson, kessy, mcging

don't think you'd miss any of them
I’d keep Luff and McGing. And Peca. Peca and Luff were just on AHL contracts so I assume they’ll be UFAs on July 1. But those two are the main vet leaders, at least at forward anyway so I’d try to keep them. And if they go elsewhere, then we need new AHL vet types. McGing has another year on his contract so he’s likely to stay. I’d keep one of Bitten or Kessy. They’re the fighters/tough guys. Dickinson is a pending RFA. I supposed they could choose to not qualify him and make him a UFA but my guess is he’s qualified. He did decent the 2nd half of the season. But agree that if they let him go it wouldn’t be a big loss.
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We're starting to get to that point again where there should be some serious consideration to a Pick + prospect(s) and/or NHL player + prospect to potentially get some upgrades. We have a lot of guys that are in that discussion to be a 2nd-3rd line winger in our farm system right now, and have an ok crop of LD as well, so i wonder if Army's plan will be to deal from a bit of a strength and upgrade or maybe move on from a contract and replace with a slightly better player?

I'm thinking more or less along the lines of Leddy + X for stay-at-home borderline 2/3 RD. Blues do it to play a bit more conservatively late game and not use Faulk as much who is arguably offensive in nature, but at most a two way (no shot he's a defensive defensemen), and Team B would do it to maybe make a late season trade deadline trade to get more value with Leddy and then help replenish some of their farm depth if they are heading into a rebuild.

It's going to be slightly difficult potentially with Leddy being a 16 team list and only so many reams in position to need this type of deal, but i feel it's going to be less difficult to pull something like this off than it would be to get a true top 4 RD that has prime years left.
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