In fact being a pinch hitter would clearly indicate a good knee; no pinch hit? Wonder why.ramfandan wrote: ↑10 May 2025 12:35 pmI thought possibly the same thing. His knee may have been a tad sore this morning ? It's easy to rake Oli over the coals for 'sitting' him but if Herrera told Oli /trainers it was a bit tender yet , no way Oli is going to play him. So I won't condemn the manager without knowing the situation.Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑10 May 2025 12:14 pmThe only way to explain this is if Herrera still needs some occasional rest with the knee. Otherwise he needs to be in the lineup every day, period.rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 May 2025 12:01 pm OMG can they please FIRE OLI NOW!
This idiots lineup today:
NootbaarRF
WinnSS
DonovanLF
Arenado3B
Contreras, Wn1B
BurlesonDH
Gorman2B
Pagés, C
Scott IICF
The idiot sits I. Hererra to play Bumbles.
MORON
(And even if Bumbles goes 4-4 it's still the wrong move sitting Hererra)
We may still see Hererra in a pinch hitting role at a crucial time of the game today. It doesn't mean he won't make a plate appearance later in the game.
GDT : Cards @ Nationals (5/10) ~ 3:05pm CDT
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Burleson isnt the problem. Gorman is the problem.
Id rather have Burleson in LF, Herrera at DH, and Donovan at 2nd
Id rather have Burleson in LF, Herrera at DH, and Donovan at 2nd
Re: GDT : Cards @ Nationals (5/10) ~ 3:05pm CDT
Agree with the 'easing Herrera back makes sense ' thing. Just because he is back after an extended injury , it is a requirement to play him every single game. If Herrera played today and was held out Sunday , some on CT would be grousing tomorrow that 'Oli held him out ' .Cusecards wrote: ↑10 May 2025 12:31 pmEasing Herrera back in does make some sense.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑10 May 2025 12:24 pm The only logical explanation is that this gives Herrera a chance to rest his knees. And with 4 of the next 7 games after today being vs LHP where Burleson won’t play at all (or shouldn’t), it’s ok with me. Otherwise, Marmol continues to be dumb, which is certainly a possibility.
Hopefully we jump on the pitcher and it won’t matter. He hasn’t been any good this year. He’s given up 8+ hits in 3 of his 7 starts and 5+ hits in 6 of his 7 starts.
And Burleson has swung the bat better lately plus RH pitcher on the mound.
Won’t react to one game!
Players are like race horses. When they are returning from an injury you must be cautious using them full bore . Heck , look at the Kentucky Derby winner Sovereignty . That trainer/owner won't run that horse in the Preakness next week as they feel running him two weeks later is problematic.
He will run next in the Belmont. Each horse (and player ) you have to treat on case by case basis.
Re: GDT : Cards @ Nationals (5/10) ~ 3:05pm CDT
That might be the lineup with the highest upside in this game, might.vegascardsfan5890 wrote: ↑10 May 2025 12:43 pm Burleson isnt the problem. Gorman is the problem.
Id rather have Burleson in LF, Herrera at DH, and Donovan at 2nd
IF both Gorman and Walker are both on the roster then they should play.
We can debate that but they are here today.
Today Walker sits.
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Its pretty obvious that Herrera and Walker will play against lefties, and Gorman and Burly against righties.
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Maybe Herrera knee is sore...possible or do we just (buzz)?rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 May 2025 12:01 pm OMG can they please FIRE OLI NOW!
This idiots lineup today:
NootbaarRF
WinnSS
DonovanLF
Arenado3B
Contreras, Wn1B
BurlesonDH
Gorman2B
Pagés, C
Scott IICF
The idiot sits I. Hererra to play Bumbles.
MORON
(And even if Bumbles goes 4-4 it's still the wrong move sitting Hererra)

Re: GDT : Cards @ Nationals (5/10) ~ 3:05pm CDT
Exactly what I expected. Oily is predictable.rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 May 2025 12:01 pm OMG can they please FIRE OLI NOW!
This idiots lineup today:
NootbaarRF
WinnSS
DonovanLF
Arenado3B
Contreras, Wn1B
BurlesonDH
Gorman2B
Pagés, C
Scott IICF
The idiot sits I. Hererra to play Bumbles.
MORON
(And even if Bumbles goes 4-4 it's still the wrong move sitting Hererra)
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Nationals (5/10) ~ 3:05pm CDT
So dumb...6 wins in a row. Dumb Oli!Futuregm2 wrote: ↑10 May 2025 12:24 pm The only logical explanation is that this gives Herrera a chance to rest his knees. And with 4 of the next 7 games after today being vs LHP where Burleson won’t play at all (or shouldn’t), it’s ok with me. Otherwise, Marmol continues to be dumb, which is certainly a possibility.
Hopefully we jump on the pitcher and it won’t matter. He hasn’t been any good this year. He’s given up 8+ hits in 3 of his 7 starts and 5+ hits in 6 of his 7 starts.
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Nationals (5/10) ~ 3:05pm CDT
No it isntBaseball Savant wrote: ↑10 May 2025 12:55 pm Its pretty obvious that Herrera and Walker will play against lefties, and Gorman and Burly against righties.

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Re: GDT : Cards @ Nationals (5/10) ~ 3:05pm CDT
And I posted that for shaddy in another thread when he claimed Bumbles hit RHP:Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑10 May 2025 12:10 pm+1 it’s dumb Herrera hits right handers better than burly but all oli see is right and left handedrockondlouie wrote: ↑10 May 2025 12:01 pm OMG can they please FIRE OLI NOW!
This idiots lineup today:
NootbaarRF
WinnSS
DonovanLF
Arenado3B
Contreras, Wn1B
BurlesonDH
Gorman2B
Pagés, C
Scott IICF
The idiot sits I. Hererra to play Bumbles.
MORON
(And even if Bumbles goes 4-4 it's still the wrong move sitting Hererra)
Hererra Career vs RHP:
243 PA
.311 .386 .448 .834
Burleson Career vs RHP:
925 PA
.268 .320 .421 .741
Burleson this season vs RHP:
.276 .317 .378 .695
Hererra blows him away vs RHP.
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Nationals (5/10) ~ 3:05pm CDT
I would think DH-ing he should be ready for everyday duty.Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑10 May 2025 12:14 pmThe only way to explain this is if Herrera still needs some occasional rest with the knee. Otherwise he needs to be in the lineup every day, period.rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 May 2025 12:01 pm OMG can they please FIRE OLI NOW!
This idiots lineup today:
NootbaarRF
WinnSS
DonovanLF
Arenado3B
Contreras, Wn1B
BurlesonDH
Gorman2B
Pagés, C
Scott IICF
The idiot sits I. Hererra to play Bumbles.
MORON
(And even if Bumbles goes 4-4 it's still the wrong move sitting Hererra)
This (IMO) is just Oli stubbornly clinging to Bumbles who we all know is one of his favorites.
If he had his way, then M. Siani would be in CF and VSII maybe in Memphis.

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Re: GDT : Cards @ Nationals (5/10) ~ 3:05pm CDT
I'm not buying that unless it's being reportedscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑10 May 2025 12:58 pmMaybe Herrera knee is sore...possible or do we just (A female canine animal, especially a dog)?rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 May 2025 12:01 pm OMG can they please FIRE OLI NOW!
This idiots lineup today:
NootbaarRF
WinnSS
DonovanLF
Arenado3B
Contreras, Wn1B
BurlesonDH
Gorman2B
Pagés, C
Scott IICF
The idiot sits I. Hererra to play Bumbles.
MORON
(And even if Bumbles goes 4-4 it's still the wrong move sitting Hererra)![]()
And you know it's not beetching when Oli makes a moron move like this starting Bumbles at DH instead of Ivan.

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Re: GDT : Cards @ Nationals (5/10) ~ 3:05pm CDT
Soooooooooo predictable2ninr wrote: ↑10 May 2025 12:58 pmExactly what I expected. Oily is predictable.rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 May 2025 12:01 pm OMG can they please FIRE OLI NOW!
This idiots lineup today:
NootbaarRF
WinnSS
DonovanLF
Arenado3B
Contreras, Wn1B
BurlesonDH
Gorman2B
Pagés, C
Scott IICF
The idiot sits I. Hererra to play Bumbles.
MORON
(And even if Bumbles goes 4-4 it's still the wrong move sitting Hererra)
His mancrush on Bumbles is out hand, just like it was w/Siani.
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Nationals (5/10) ~ 3:05pm CDT
Ok
Zero reporting from J. Denton or D. Gould on "X" that Hererra's knee is aching.
Just another moronic lineup move by Oli, the King of the stupid lineups.
Zero reporting from J. Denton or D. Gould on "X" that Hererra's knee is aching.
Just another moronic lineup move by Oli, the King of the stupid lineups.

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Re: GDT : Cards @ Nationals (5/10) ~ 3:05pm CDT
And that’s what makes it so obviously dumb herrera hits much better against right handers than burly but olis iPad tells him lefties play against righties and righties play against lefties so that’s what he has to do. Hes an idiotBaseball Savant wrote: ↑10 May 2025 12:55 pm Its pretty obvious that Herrera and Walker will play against lefties, and Gorman and Burly against righties.
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Not here to grumble or be negative. With all due respect to the previous posters who all have legitimate points to make. But I see we are in second place 2 games behind the Cubs. I actually enjoy watching these younger guys play the game. Am I delusional?! It might be fun to watch the Cardinals this year. Hope so. It's been a while.