Trade Kyrou or Not?

[STL fan in MN]

Folks be lovin' Holloway (63 pts, +21) but be hatin' Kyrou (70 pts, +23).

I be lovin' both.

He didn't shine in the play-offs. I think that accounts for the gas. His measly 3 goals in 7 games makes him trade bait. Never mind he lost his line partner, the one that with him, powered the historic spring push to GET from the weeds back IN to the play-offs. He's jag now.

Because Holloway tries hard and makes $2.3M while nearly matching the production of Kyrou, who’s soft, lacks compete and makes $8.125M.

So no, Kyrou isn’t a “jag”. He’s our leading goal scorer. It’d really only make sense to trade him for a very particular player. I highly doubt that player will be available. But given Kyrou’s deficiencies, deficiencies which line up horribly for playoff hockey, I think it makes sense to at least explore the options available.

[TheJackBurton]

Seems to me that if a team is constantly challenged with finding the "right linemates" for a player, then he really isn't a very well rounded player.

An elite player should be able to be able to play with anyone.

That's how I see it, anyway.

The most disappointing thing about Kyrou this post-season was watching him repeatedly get outmuscled on pucks in the offensive zone.

It was a vicious cycle of O zone entry, puck getting passed around, puck eventually passed to Kyrou, turnover, O zone exit. Momentum killed.

As you correctly point out he'll never be a complete player. Few are. And I'm not advocating trading him, but if he was in the right deal, so be it.

That was what was disappointing, after that hit in Game 2 you could easily see him avoiding hits and anytime he got so much as touched just give up on the play.

He's a great player with tremendous speed and he should be our Kyle Conner, but it's that last gear/push that he is missing. Maybe that hit by Stanley really rattled something and he was afraid that another hit like that would cause serious injury.

Game 7 was quite frankly awful for him even though he scored the first goal. The worst being on the icing call late in the 3rd (I believe) where he was even with a dman, and just coasted to allow the icing to happen. There are very few dmen who can outskate Kyrou in the entire league, and none of them play for Winnipeg. He coasted because if he wins that battle and plays the puck, negates the icing he was going to get hit hard and he wanted no part of that.

[MikoTython]

Folks be lovin' Holloway (63 pts, +21) but be hatin' Kyrou (70 pts, +23).

I be lovin' both.

He didn't shine in the play-offs. I think that accounts for the gas. His measly 3 goals in 7 games makes him trade bait. Never mind he lost his line partner, the one that with him, powered the historic spring push to GET from the weeds back IN to the play-offs. He's jag now.

Because Holloway tries hard and makes $2.3M while nearly matching the production of Kyrou, who’s soft, lacks compete and makes $8.125M.

So no, Kyrou isn’t a “jag”. He’s our leading goal scorer. It’d really only make sense to trade him for a very particular player. I highly doubt that player will be available. But given Kyrou’s deficiencies, deficiencies which line up horribly for playoff hockey, I think it makes sense to at least explore the options available.

Broberg won't be extended for 2.3M. Not by a long-shot. Broberg & Kyrou are magic. They need a center to keep up.

[STL fan in MN]

Folks be lovin' Holloway (63 pts, +21) but be hatin' Kyrou (70 pts, +23).

I be lovin' both.

He didn't shine in the play-offs. I think that accounts for the gas. His measly 3 goals in 7 games makes him trade bait. Never mind he lost his line partner, the one that with him, powered the historic spring push to GET from the weeds back IN to the play-offs. He's jag now.

Because Holloway tries hard and makes $2.3M while nearly matching the production of Kyrou, who’s soft, lacks compete and makes $8.125M.

So no, Kyrou isn’t a “jag”. He’s our leading goal scorer. It’d really only make sense to trade him for a very particular player. I highly doubt that player will be available. But given Kyrou’s deficiencies, deficiencies which line up horribly for playoff hockey, I think it makes sense to at least explore the options available.

Broberg won't be extended for 2.3M. Not by a long-shot. Broberg & Kyrou are magic. They need a center to keep up.

Broberg is a defenseman. But agreed that once Holloway is extended he’ll be due a sizable raise. But just providing an answer as to why Holloway is currently loved and Kyrou gets a ton of flack.

[MikoTython]

Folks be lovin' Holloway (63 pts, +21) but be hatin' Kyrou (70 pts, +23).

I be lovin' both.

He didn't shine in the play-offs. I think that accounts for the gas. His measly 3 goals in 7 games makes him trade bait. Never mind he lost his line partner, the one that with him, powered the historic spring push to GET from the weeds back IN to the play-offs. He's jag now.

Because Holloway tries hard and makes $2.3M while nearly matching the production of Kyrou, who’s soft, lacks compete and makes $8.125M.

So no, Kyrou isn’t a “jag”. He’s our leading goal scorer. It’d really only make sense to trade him for a very particular player. I highly doubt that player will be available. But given Kyrou’s deficiencies, deficiencies which line up horribly for playoff hockey, I think it makes sense to at least explore the options available.

Broberg won't be extended for 2.3M. Not by a long-shot. Broberg & Kyrou are magic. They need a center to keep up.

Broberg is a defenseman. But agreed that once Holloway is extended he’ll be due a sizable raise. But just providing an answer as to why Holloway is currently loved and Kyrou gets a ton of flack.

lol

[Harry York 37]

Kyrou went from a plus ten to a minus thirty-eight the year after the ASG.
That... has gotta be goddanged historic for a one year drop.
A 48 point swing.

His line pair changed significantly in the time frame. This year with Holloway he was lights out. Blues would be stupid to trade a young perennial 30 goal scorer who has a great line when Holloway comes back. I am glad people on this forum are not the GM for the Blues.

BOLD: You fail to mention that the Blues went from a 109-point team to an 81-point team.

ITALIC: Over the same two seasons, ROR went from +11 to -21 in 53 games with Blues. Projected over 82 games, that's -32, making his swing -43. Same logic apply to him? Faulk went from +41 to to -4, a swing of -45. Krug from +23 to -26, a swing of 49. The whole team tanked.

If ROR missed a third of a season from repeated injuries, you can bet your mortgage he was playing hurt for a few dozen more. That man comes to play 200 foot ice hockey every single day. To mention he and JK in the same sentence is ...apples and oranges.

Bottom lines-
Kyrou is a phenomenal offensive threat—few teams have a weapon like him. He is capable of scoring 2-3 goals on any given shift.


also,
He is VERY often, a cringe-worthy Pansy at the opponent's Blue Line. He is where momentum and GUTS go to commit public suicide,


I don't give a chit if he never throws a hard body check, I want him to compete for pucks ... like a 196 pound six foot one 27 year old professional ice hockey player. He took a giant hit in Game two. So WHAT? It was legal and he did not go in for any protocols- he just left his balls on the ice, like he has done so very very very many times before,
He plays Embarrassing Ice Hockey at the most crucial times. I am happy a professional NHL announcer had the temerity to acknowledge it because too many people pull their blinkers on tight and live in willful ignorance.
I cannot believe DA is happy to be paying $8,125,000.00 dollars a year to see his team and the fans treated to such ...pitiful displays whenever JK is spooked, or pouting.
That's all.

[bud white]

Kyrou went from a plus ten to a minus thirty-eight the year after the ASG.
That... has gotta be goddanged historic for a one year drop.
A 48 point swing.

His line pair changed significantly in the time frame. This year with Holloway he was lights out. Blues would be stupid to trade a young perennial 30 goal scorer who has a great line when Holloway comes back. I am glad people on this forum are not the GM for the Blues.

BOLD: You fail to mention that the Blues went from a 109-point team to an 81-point team.

ITALIC: Over the same two seasons, ROR went from +11 to -21 in 53 games with Blues. Projected over 82 games, that's -32, making his swing -43. Same logic apply to him? Faulk went from +41 to to -4, a swing of -45. Krug from +23 to -26, a swing of 49. The whole team tanked.

If ROR missed a third of a season from repeated injuries, you can bet your mortgage he was playing hurt for a few dozen more. That man comes to play 200 foot ice hockey every single day. To mention he and JK in the same sentence is ...apples and oranges.

Bottom lines-
Kyrou is a phenomenal offensive threat—few teams have a weapon like him. He is capable of scoring 2-3 goals on any given shift.


also,
He is VERY often, a cringe-worthy Pansy at the opponent's Blue Line. He is where momentum and GUTS go to commit public suicide,


I don't give a chit if he never throws a hard body check, I want him to compete for pucks ... like a 196 pound six foot one 27 year old professional ice hockey player. He took a giant hit in Game two. So WHAT? It was legal and he did not go in for any protocols- he just left his balls on the ice, like he has done so very very very many times before,
He plays Embarrassing Ice Hockey at the most crucial times. I am happy a professional NHL announcer had the temerity to acknowledge it because too many people pull their blinkers on tight and live in willful ignorance.
I cannot believe DA is happy to be paying $8,125,000.00 dollars a year to see his team and the fans treated to such ...pitiful displays whenever JK is spooked, or pouting.
That's all.

New GM Alexander Steen played through herniated discs in his back and multiple concussions. He left his ego at the door when Chief asked him to drop to the fourth line and be a shut down Center. That is what champions do. Moving forward, this team will be built to the vision Steen and Monty have for it. I just can't envision a world where a roller hockey diva will be a part of an Alexander Steen team. Come spring, this a man's game - battle and compete - and I've yet to see anything in Kyrou's history that tells me he can play that game. Every team in the league knows it. Just one good lick and he's done.

[netboy65]

Folks be lovin' Holloway (63 pts, +21) but be hatin' Kyrou (70 pts, +23).

I be lovin' both.

He didn't shine in the play-offs. I think that accounts for the gas. His measly 3 goals in 7 games makes him trade bait. Never mind he lost his line partner, the one that with him, powered the historic spring push to GET from the weeds back IN to the play-offs. He's jag now.

Because Holloway tries hard and makes $2.3M while nearly matching the production of Kyrou, who’s soft, lacks compete and makes $8.125M.

So no, Kyrou isn’t a “jag”. He’s our leading goal scorer. It’d really only make sense to trade him for a very particular player. I highly doubt that player will be available. But given Kyrou’s deficiencies, deficiencies which line up horribly for playoff hockey, I think it makes sense to at least explore the options available.

He did quite well as I recall in 21-22 playoffs, so while the Jets outmuscled him, do you thing the same would have happened in the next series? Or what if we played Edm and all their speed? You think a guy like Kyrou might be useful there?

[Harry S Deals]

Kyrou went from a plus ten to a minus thirty-eight the year after the ASG.
That... has gotta be goddanged historic for a one year drop.
A 48 point swing.

His line pair changed significantly in the time frame. This year with Holloway he was lights out. Blues would be stupid to trade a young perennial 30 goal scorer who has a great line when Holloway comes back. I am glad people on this forum are not the GM for the Blues.

BOLD: You fail to mention that the Blues went from a 109-point team to an 81-point team.

ITALIC: Over the same two seasons, ROR went from +11 to -21 in 53 games with Blues. Projected over 82 games, that's -32, making his swing -43. Same logic apply to him? Faulk went from +41 to to -4, a swing of -45. Krug from +23 to -26, a swing of 49. The whole team tanked.

If ROR missed a third of a season from repeated injuries, you can bet your mortgage he was playing hurt for a few dozen more. That man comes to play 200 foot ice hockey every single day. To mention he and JK in the same sentence is ...apples and oranges.

Bottom lines-
Kyrou is a phenomenal offensive threat—few teams have a weapon like him. He is capable of scoring 2-3 goals on any given shift.


also,
He is VERY often, a cringe-worthy Pansy at the opponent's Blue Line. He is where momentum and GUTS go to commit public suicide,


I don't give a chit if he never throws a hard body check, I want him to compete for pucks ... like a 196 pound six foot one 27 year old professional ice hockey player. He took a giant hit in Game two. So WHAT? It was legal and he did not go in for any protocols- he just left his balls on the ice, like he has done so very very very many times before,
He plays Embarrassing Ice Hockey at the most crucial times. I am happy a professional NHL announcer had the temerity to acknowledge it because too many people pull their blinkers on tight and live in willful ignorance.
I cannot believe DA is happy to be paying $8,125,000.00 dollars a year to see his team and the fans treated to such ...pitiful displays whenever JK is spooked, or pouting.
That's all.

New GM Alexander Steen played through herniated discs in his back and multiple concussions. He left his ego at the door when Chief asked him to drop to the fourth line and be a shut down Center. That is what champions do. Moving forward, this team will be built to the vision Steen and Monty have for it. I just can't envision a world where a roller hockey diva will be a part of an Alexander Steen team. Come spring, this a man's game - battle and compete - and I've yet to see anything in Kyrou's history that tells me he can play that game. Every team in the league knows it. Just one good lick and he's done.

Not at all to diss Steener, his type of player is a must to win in the postseason, tough guy great grinder but, Steen 91 15 21 36 -8 ....15 goals in 91 career playoff games.... as i said Kyrou has 10g in his 19 playoff games. You can like it or not but a Kyrou type of player is a must A) if you want to first make the playoffs B) then to score in the playoffs.
Yes its also true that this playoff series Kyrou wasnt aggressive enough although 3 goals scored tied for 1st on the Blues. Last summer Kyrou added around 10lbs of muscle he will need to continue that this summer and he will

[Harry York 37]

Kyrou went from a plus ten to a minus thirty-eight the year after the ASG.
That... has gotta be goddanged historic for a one year drop.
A 48 point swing.

His line pair changed significantly in the time frame. This year with Holloway he was lights out. Blues would be stupid to trade a young perennial 30 goal scorer who has a great line when Holloway comes back. I am glad people on this forum are not the GM for the Blues.

BOLD: You fail to mention that the Blues went from a 109-point team to an 81-point team.

ITALIC: Over the same two seasons, ROR went from +11 to -21 in 53 games with Blues. Projected over 82 games, that's -32, making his swing -43. Same logic apply to him? Faulk went from +41 to to -4, a swing of -45. Krug from +23 to -26, a swing of 49. The whole team tanked.

If ROR missed a third of a season from repeated injuries, you can bet your mortgage he was playing hurt for a few dozen more. That man comes to play 200 foot ice hockey every single day. To mention he and JK in the same sentence is ...apples and oranges.

Bottom lines-
Kyrou is a phenomenal offensive threat—few teams have a weapon like him. He is capable of scoring 2-3 goals on any given shift.


also,
He is VERY often, a cringe-worthy Pansy at the opponent's Blue Line. He is where momentum and GUTS go to commit public suicide,


I don't give a chit if he never throws a hard body check, I want him to compete for pucks ... like a 196 pound six foot one 27 year old professional ice hockey player. He took a giant hit in Game two. So WHAT? It was legal and he did not go in for any protocols- he just left his balls on the ice, like he has done so very very very many times before,
He plays Embarrassing Ice Hockey at the most crucial times. I am happy a professional NHL announcer had the temerity to acknowledge it because too many people pull their blinkers on tight and live in willful ignorance.
I cannot believe DA is happy to be paying $8,125,000.00 dollars a year to see his team and the fans treated to such ...pitiful displays whenever JK is spooked, or pouting.
That's all.

New GM Alexander Steen played through herniated discs in his back and multiple concussions. He left his ego at the door when Chief asked him to drop to the fourth line and be a shut down Center. That is what champions do. Moving forward, this team will be built to the vision Steen and Monty have for it. I just can't envision a world where a roller hockey diva will be a part of an Alexander Steen team. Come spring, this a man's game - battle and compete - and I've yet to see anything in Kyrou's history that tells me he can play that game. Every team in the league knows it. Just one good lick and he's done.

Not at all to diss Steener, his type of player is a must to win in the postseason, tough guy great grinder but, Steen 91 15 21 36 -8 ....15 goals in 91 career playoff games.... as i said Kyrou has 10g in his 19 playoff games. You can like it or not but a Kyrou type of player is a must A) if you want to first make the playoffs B) then to score in the playoffs.
Yes its also true that this playoff series Kyrou wasnt aggressive enough although 3 goals scored tied for 1st on the Blues. Last summer Kyrou added around 10lbs of muscle he will need to continue that this summer and he will

That fourth line- with Steen parking his ego for the sake of the team, made the WTF line look "above average" by comparison.
THAT is what wins playoff hockey games, not "Roller Hockey Divas" (well-played Bud White).
I don't care how many PP goals he scores. He is NOT been a playmaker in any playoff series due to his weak mind, lack of compete, and sense of entitlement.

Get a decent return and let some other team watch him coast in their playoff game sevens.

[Harry S Deals]

Kyrou went from a plus ten to a minus thirty-eight the year after the ASG.
That... has gotta be goddanged historic for a one year drop.
A 48 point swing.

His line pair changed significantly in the time frame. This year with Holloway he was lights out. Blues would be stupid to trade a young perennial 30 goal scorer who has a great line when Holloway comes back. I am glad people on this forum are not the GM for the Blues.

BOLD: You fail to mention that the Blues went from a 109-point team to an 81-point team.

ITALIC: Over the same two seasons, ROR went from +11 to -21 in 53 games with Blues. Projected over 82 games, that's -32, making his swing -43. Same logic apply to him? Faulk went from +41 to to -4, a swing of -45. Krug from +23 to -26, a swing of 49. The whole team tanked.

If ROR missed a third of a season from repeated injuries, you can bet your mortgage he was playing hurt for a few dozen more. That man comes to play 200 foot ice hockey every single day. To mention he and JK in the same sentence is ...apples and oranges.

Bottom lines-
Kyrou is a phenomenal offensive threat—few teams have a weapon like him. He is capable of scoring 2-3 goals on any given shift.


also,
He is VERY often, a cringe-worthy Pansy at the opponent's Blue Line. He is where momentum and GUTS go to commit public suicide,


I don't give a chit if he never throws a hard body check, I want him to compete for pucks ... like a 196 pound six foot one 27 year old professional ice hockey player. He took a giant hit in Game two. So WHAT? It was legal and he did not go in for any protocols- he just left his balls on the ice, like he has done so very very very many times before,
He plays Embarrassing Ice Hockey at the most crucial times. I am happy a professional NHL announcer had the temerity to acknowledge it because too many people pull their blinkers on tight and live in willful ignorance.
I cannot believe DA is happy to be paying $8,125,000.00 dollars a year to see his team and the fans treated to such ...pitiful displays whenever JK is spooked, or pouting.
That's all.

New GM Alexander Steen played through herniated discs in his back and multiple concussions. He left his ego at the door when Chief asked him to drop to the fourth line and be a shut down Center. That is what champions do. Moving forward, this team will be built to the vision Steen and Monty have for it. I just can't envision a world where a roller hockey diva will be a part of an Alexander Steen team. Come spring, this a man's game - battle and compete - and I've yet to see anything in Kyrou's history that tells me he can play that game. Every team in the league knows it. Just one good lick and he's done.

Not at all to diss Steener, his type of player is a must to win in the postseason, tough guy great grinder but, Steen 91 15 21 36 -8 ....15 goals in 91 career playoff games.... as i said Kyrou has 10g in his 19 playoff games. You can like it or not but a Kyrou type of player is a must A) if you want to first make the playoffs B) then to score in the playoffs.
Yes its also true that this playoff series Kyrou wasnt aggressive enough although 3 goals scored tied for 1st on the Blues. Last summer Kyrou added around 10lbs of muscle he will need to continue that this summer and he will

That fourth line- with Steen parking his ego for the sake of the team, made the WTF line look "above average" by comparison.
THAT is what wins playoff hockey games, not "Roller Hockey Divas" (well-played Bud White).
I don't care how many PP goals he scores. He is NOT been a playmaker in any playoff series due to his weak mind, lack of compete, and sense of entitlement.

Get a decent return and let some other team watch him coast in their playoff game sevens.

Factually untrue

'21-'22 12 7g 2 9 -4

[Harry S Deals]

Kyrou went from a plus ten to a minus thirty-eight the year after the ASG.
That... has gotta be goddanged historic for a one year drop.
A 48 point swing.

His line pair changed significantly in the time frame. This year with Holloway he was lights out. Blues would be stupid to trade a young perennial 30 goal scorer who has a great line when Holloway comes back. I am glad people on this forum are not the GM for the Blues.

BOLD: You fail to mention that the Blues went from a 109-point team to an 81-point team.

ITALIC: Over the same two seasons, ROR went from +11 to -21 in 53 games with Blues. Projected over 82 games, that's -32, making his swing -43. Same logic apply to him? Faulk went from +41 to to -4, a swing of -45. Krug from +23 to -26, a swing of 49. The whole team tanked.

If ROR missed a third of a season from repeated injuries, you can bet your mortgage he was playing hurt for a few dozen more. That man comes to play 200 foot ice hockey every single day. To mention he and JK in the same sentence is ...apples and oranges.

Bottom lines-
Kyrou is a phenomenal offensive threat—few teams have a weapon like him. He is capable of scoring 2-3 goals on any given shift.


also,
He is VERY often, a cringe-worthy Pansy at the opponent's Blue Line. He is where momentum and GUTS go to commit public suicide,


I don't give a chit if he never throws a hard body check, I want him to compete for pucks ... like a 196 pound six foot one 27 year old professional ice hockey player. He took a giant hit in Game two. So WHAT? It was legal and he did not go in for any protocols- he just left his balls on the ice, like he has done so very very very many times before,
He plays Embarrassing Ice Hockey at the most crucial times. I am happy a professional NHL announcer had the temerity to acknowledge it because too many people pull their blinkers on tight and live in willful ignorance.
I cannot believe DA is happy to be paying $8,125,000.00 dollars a year to see his team and the fans treated to such ...pitiful displays whenever JK is spooked, or pouting.
That's all.

New GM Alexander Steen played through herniated discs in his back and multiple concussions. He left his ego at the door when Chief asked him to drop to the fourth line and be a shut down Center. That is what champions do. Moving forward, this team will be built to the vision Steen and Monty have for it. I just can't envision a world where a roller hockey diva will be a part of an Alexander Steen team. Come spring, this a man's game - battle and compete - and I've yet to see anything in Kyrou's history that tells me he can play that game. Every team in the league knows it. Just one good lick and he's done.

Not at all to diss Steener, his type of player is a must to win in the postseason, tough guy great grinder but, Steen 91 15 21 36 -8 ....15 goals in 91 career playoff games.... as i said Kyrou has 10g in his 19 playoff games. You can like it or not but a Kyrou type of player is a must A) if you want to first make the playoffs B) then to score in the playoffs.
Yes its also true that this playoff series Kyrou wasnt aggressive enough although 3 goals scored tied for 1st on the Blues. Last summer Kyrou added around 10lbs of muscle he will need to continue that this summer and he will

That fourth line- with Steen parking his ego for the sake of the team, made the WTF line look "above average" by comparison.
THAT is what wins playoff hockey games, not "Roller Hockey Divas" (well-played Bud White).
I don't care how many PP goals he scores. He is NOT been a playmaker in any playoff series due to his weak mind, lack of compete, and sense of entitlement.

Get a decent return and let some other team watch him coast in their playoff game sevens.

made the WTF line look "above average" by comparison.

Not really true either unfortunately:

'18-'19 Steen/Sunny/Barbie = 9gs in 26 playoff games
'24-'25 WTF line = 6gs in 7 playoff games....

[BluesDom]

Depends on the return.
We need a big human in return. 6'4 220. If we can got a Tom Wilson type for Kyrou--id be down.
Id also entertain getting rid of Buch.
I love most other forwards

[STL fan in MN]

Folks be lovin' Holloway (63 pts, +21) but be hatin' Kyrou (70 pts, +23).

I be lovin' both.

He didn't shine in the play-offs. I think that accounts for the gas. His measly 3 goals in 7 games makes him trade bait. Never mind he lost his line partner, the one that with him, powered the historic spring push to GET from the weeds back IN to the play-offs. He's jag now.

Because Holloway tries hard and makes $2.3M while nearly matching the production of Kyrou, who’s soft, lacks compete and makes $8.125M.

So no, Kyrou isn’t a “jag”. He’s our leading goal scorer. It’d really only make sense to trade him for a very particular player. I highly doubt that player will be available. But given Kyrou’s deficiencies, deficiencies which line up horribly for playoff hockey, I think it makes sense to at least explore the options available.

He did quite well as I recall in 21-22 playoffs, so while the Jets outmuscled him, do you thing the same would have happened in the next series? Or what if we played Edm and all their speed? You think a guy like Kyrou might be useful there?

I bet Kyrou would likely be more effective against a team like Edmonton. But we’d have to make the Conference Finals (or be the wildcard placed in the Pacific bracket) to ever play Edmonton. Ideally, we have players that are effective against any other type of team though as we need to be able to beat those teams to ever play Edmonton. It takes versatile, hard nosed players to be able to win 4 rounds in the Stanley Cup playoffs.

[netboy65]

Folks be lovin' Holloway (63 pts, +21) but be hatin' Kyrou (70 pts, +23).

I be lovin' both.

He didn't shine in the play-offs. I think that accounts for the gas. His measly 3 goals in 7 games makes him trade bait. Never mind he lost his line partner, the one that with him, powered the historic spring push to GET from the weeds back IN to the play-offs. He's jag now.

Because Holloway tries hard and makes $2.3M while nearly matching the production of Kyrou, who’s soft, lacks compete and makes $8.125M.

So no, Kyrou isn’t a “jag”. He’s our leading goal scorer. It’d really only make sense to trade him for a very particular player. I highly doubt that player will be available. But given Kyrou’s deficiencies, deficiencies which line up horribly for playoff hockey, I think it makes sense to at least explore the options available.

He did quite well as I recall in 21-22 playoffs, so while the Jets outmuscled him, do you thing the same would have happened in the next series? Or what if we played Edm and all their speed? You think a guy like Kyrou might be useful there?

I bet Kyrou would likely be more effective against a team like Edmonton. But we’d have to make the Conference Finals (or be the wildcard placed in the Pacific bracket) to ever play Edmonton. Ideally, we have players that are effective against any other type of team though as we need to be able to beat those teams to ever play Edmonton. It takes versatile, hard nosed players to be able to win 4 rounds in the Stanley Cup playoffs.

Sure, but if you recall in ‘19 we had different folks doing it in different series. He scored a goal and led the team in shots in Game 7, that 1.6 seconds had nothing to do with him. WTF was the star in Jets series, maybe Kyrou or Thomas or whoever would have been against Stars. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water

[a smell of green grass]

If the fans often see Kryou shying away from contact and the ugly business, I'm sure that his teammates would notice it even more.

I'm curious what everyone thinks about this. What I have seen in life is that if you have one person not wanting to pick up the shovel, pretty soon nobody on the team wants to pick up the shovel.

If Kryou would have that sort of negative affect on the team, it seems that it would be best to swap him out.

Thoughts?