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Re: Trade Kyrou or Not?

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DawgDad wrote: 08 May 2025 18:43 pm
SameOldBlues wrote: 08 May 2025 18:28 pm I wasnt impressed with him this playoffs, especially after hearing he wasnt nursing an injury. I go back and forth with Kyrou..sometimes I like em and wanna keep em cause his skillset is hard to aquire, but other times he frustrates me and doesn’t seem like he’s givin full effort and Id be fine with trading him. Id like to see him in one more playoffs and see if he shows up or not before deciding. Unfortunately that wouldn’t be wise since he has trade protection next year, so if forced to decide now…id probably trade him assuming we’d get a fair return. If you’re gonna trade someone, you should always trade them before they’re on the decline of their career to maximize the return.
Who said he wasn't nursing an injury?

What ARMY said was if you can suit up and play he won't take "injury" as an excuse.

Translated: They're all banged up to some extent. When you suit up to play you play to win.
S[top] T[hose] F[raudulent] U[tterances] you old fart. I know what I heard, and I dont need it translated through your usual condescending tardation.
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Re: Trade Kyrou or Not?

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blues2112 wrote: 08 May 2025 18:31 pm
Uncle John wrote: 08 May 2025 16:36 pm Yes, trade him. Kyrou has NOT been the same hockey player since he won the fastest skater contest at the NHL All-Star game a couple years ago.
What in the name of Bomac are you talking about?
That season, he scored 27 goals.

The next three:
37 goals, -38
31 goals, -12
36 goals, +23

What's more, he missed three games out of 246 during that span, meaning he played 98.7 percent of games.
I agree with him.

In his all star season, he was over a ppg player with AMAZING assist totals. He was a plus ten .

The next years saw him become... much more selfish.
The ASG went to his head, especially after winning "Fastest Skater' and getting the fat contract. This is why he stood up to Berube in public and got him fired.

He was a child and acted like it.
He was a simple and good kid before, in my opinion.

I thought there was hope this season- see his plus minus, but he regressed horribly after losing his inspiration and rival.
If we are stuck with him... he might come around again, but you cannot count on him because of his weak mind.
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Harry York 37 wrote: 08 May 2025 19:27 pm This is why he stood up to Berube in public and got him fired.
Berube was talking about Thomas too and Thomas was much more vocal publicly towards Berube
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Kyrou went from a plus ten to a minus thirty-eight the year after the ASG.
That... has gotta be goddanged historic for a one year drop.
A 48 point swing.
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Harry York 37 wrote: 08 May 2025 20:22 pm Kyrou went from a plus ten to a minus thirty-eight the year after the ASG.
That... has gotta be goddanged historic for a one year drop.
A 48 point swing.
ROR went from +11 to -24 over his next 40 games. Is that a historic 1/2 season drop?
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a smell of green grass wrote: 08 May 2025 11:10 am I'm curious. Keep or trade Kyrou?

If you trade him, what value do you think we should get in return.
My thought....
I would trade him if I could get
a Round 1 for him.
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Harry York 37 wrote: 08 May 2025 20:22 pm Kyrou went from a plus ten to a minus thirty-eight the year after the ASG.
That... has gotta be goddanged historic for a one year drop.
A 48 point swing.
His line pair changed significantly in the time frame. This year with Holloway he was lights out. Blues would be stupid to trade a young perennial 30 goal scorer who has a great line when Holloway comes back. I am glad people on this forum are not the GM for the Blues.
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O.O wrote: 08 May 2025 20:32 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 08 May 2025 11:10 am I'm curious. Keep or trade Kyrou?

If you trade him, what value do you think we should get in return.
My thought....
I would trade him if I could get
a Round 1 for him.
clayton keller
I would do that trade for Keller, I don't think Utah would.
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rezero wrote: 08 May 2025 21:23 pm
Harry York 37 wrote: 08 May 2025 20:22 pm Kyrou went from a plus ten to a minus thirty-eight the year after the ASG.
That... has gotta be goddanged historic for a one year drop.
A 48 point swing.
His line pair changed significantly in the time frame. This year with Holloway he was lights out. Blues would be stupid to trade a young perennial 30 goal scorer who has a great line when Holloway comes back. I am glad people on this forum are not the GM for the Blues.
Kyrou was a spirit poison in the playoffs.
How valuable is a coward who gets called out in network tv for lack of compete in a Game seven of a playoff series?
They were being bloody kind to him.

If you missed that, I am glad you aren’t the GM.
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rezero wrote: 08 May 2025 21:23 pm
Harry York 37 wrote: 08 May 2025 20:22 pm Kyrou went from a plus ten to a minus thirty-eight the year after the ASG.
That... has gotta be goddanged historic for a one year drop.
A 48 point swing.
His line pair changed significantly in the time frame. This year with Holloway he was lights out. Blues would be stupid to trade a young perennial 30 goal scorer who has a great line when Holloway comes back. I am glad people on this forum are not the GM for the Blues.
They have to have their whipping boy and yearn for every game to be 1-0
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Re: Trade Kyrou or Not?

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a smell of green grass wrote: 08 May 2025 12:27 pm
Lone_Ranger wrote: 08 May 2025 11:49 am Not a chance. He hasn't even had his career year yet. The guy has 40+ goal potential.
I'm curious. How do you feel his playoff performance was? What do you think is his playoff potential?
Wasn't great at all but the guy got his head blasted in Game 2 was it? He was targeted for a reason and that's because the Jets knew he was a threat.

Kyrou has a high ceiling. And when the Blues roster comes to fruition and has more offensive talent, you'll see Kyrou reaching that ceiling.

He has 40+ goal potential and he'll be dangerous in the playoffs when the Blues high end kids turn the corner.

This Blues team with Montgomery and Binnington are going to be a juggernaut in the West.
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Lone_Ranger wrote: 09 May 2025 06:31 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 08 May 2025 12:27 pm
Lone_Ranger wrote: 08 May 2025 11:49 am Not a chance. He hasn't even had his career year yet. The guy has 40+ goal potential.
I'm curious. How do you feel his playoff performance was? What do you think is his playoff potential?
Wasn't great at all but the guy got his head blasted in Game 2 was it? He was targeted for a reason and that's because the Jets knew he was a threat.

Kyrou has a high ceiling. And when the Blues roster comes to fruition and has more offensive talent, you'll see Kyrou reaching that ceiling.

He has 40+ goal potential and he'll be dangerous in the playoffs when the Blues high end kids turn the corner.

This Blues team with Montgomery and Binnington are going to be a juggernaut in the West.
Jets weren’t the best matchup for him, that’s a given, but overall the league is getting faster all the time and we need guys like him to compete.
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Re: Trade Kyrou or Not?

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Folks be lovin' Holloway (63 pts, +21) but be hatin' Kyrou (70 pts, +23).

I be lovin' both.

He didn't shine in the play-offs. I think that accounts for the gas. His measly 3 goals in 7 games makes him trade bait. Never mind he lost his line partner, the one that with him, powered the historic spring push to GET from the weeds back IN to the play-offs. He's jag now.
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rezero wrote: 08 May 2025 21:23 pm
Harry York 37 wrote: 08 May 2025 20:22 pm Kyrou went from a plus ten to a minus thirty-eight the year after the ASG.
That... has gotta be goddanged historic for a one year drop.
A 48 point swing.
His line pair changed significantly in the time frame. This year with Holloway he was lights out. Blues would be stupid to trade a young perennial 30 goal scorer who has a great line when Holloway comes back. I am glad people on this forum are not the GM for the Blues.
BOLD: You fail to mention that the Blues went from a 109-point team to an 81-point team.

ITALIC: Over the same two seasons, ROR went from +11 to -21 in 53 games with Blues. Projected over 82 games, that's -32, making his swing -43. Same logic apply to him? Faulk went from +41 to to -4, a swing of -45. Krug from +23 to -26, a swing of 49. The whole team tanked.
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10gs in his last 19 playoff games which Blue has more?
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bud white wrote: 08 May 2025 16:19 pm Seems to me that if a team is constantly challenged with finding the "right linemates" for a player, then he really isn't a very well rounded player.

An elite player should be able to be able to play with anyone.

That's how I see it, anyway.
The most disappointing thing about Kyrou this post-season was watching him repeatedly get outmuscled on pucks in the offensive zone.

It was a vicious cycle of O zone entry, puck getting passed around, puck eventually passed to Kyrou, turnover, O zone exit. Momentum killed.

As you correctly point out he'll never be a complete player. Few are. And I'm not advocating trading him, but if he was in the right deal, so be it.
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