Why be a jerkwadd? It's just baseball talk. Did it harm you in any way?HorseTrader wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:19 pmWell we knew you were crazy, now we know you are drunk. Pirates would say no so fast
Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?
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Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?
Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?
Could be. Who really knows how the Pirates value Walker and Gorman? They may see them as potential power-hitting fixtures in their lineup for the next ten seasons. Long after Skenes has moved on. There is a significant difference between CT posters rationale and the way professional baseball evaluators' analyze.Adam2 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:11 pmI did see his post. If they did trade him it would be for a fair package. Your package is like trading Ken Griffey Jr. in his second year (like Skenes) for under performing first round picks in Griffey's second year (1990) Erick Christopherson and Lance DicksonShady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:57 pmWhatever. But not too long ago Walker and Gorman were two of the hottest prospects in baseball. And Pittsburgh needs position players. Also, they will not likely be able to keep Skenes. If somebody is open-minded, this may not be as far-fetched as some may think. Considering the long term implications. Check out Quincy Varnish's post.Adam2 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:45 pmthe fact you even proposed this as a hypothetical IS THE PROBLEM. It shows your drastic lack of baseball acumen and knowledge. If you threw out a trade that even 1 GM in the history of major league baseball would consider for more than 1.5 seconds sure, maybe make a thread about it. but not 1 GM in the history of the sport would look at this trade and not laugh at youShady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:33 pmSeriously ? Think about it a little. There were two questions. Not something like, "the Cardinals should offer Walker and Gorman for Skenes".Futuregm2 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:19 pmShady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:10 pmPlease try to decipher that I didn't propose this trade. I just threw it out there. Thanks for being a respectful CT poster.Jatalk wrote: ↑07 May 2025 12:43 pm An open post to Shady:
Shady I have tried to come to your defense many times as you often get bashed by the CT Bully Patrol. I will continue to do so, but dude I have to tell you that you have it coming with this thread. You are WAY WAY off on this one. Be better man!![]()
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I'm similar to the previous poster in that i've had some fair back and forth with you about Burleson for example. But this...come on man. i can no longer take you seriously on any post
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Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?
Walker and Gorman would be replacing Hayes at 3rd and Reynolds at RF.. So the answer is yes, the Cards would but the Rats would laugh hysterically at the proposal.Shady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:39 pmCould be. Who really knows how the Pirates value Walker and Gorman? They may see them as potential power-hitting fixtures in their lineup for the next ten seasons. Long after Skenes has moved on. There is a difference between CT posters rationale and professional baseball evaluators'.Adam2 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:11 pmI did see his post. If they did trade him it would be for a fair package. Your package is like trading Ken Griffey Jr. in his second year (like Skenes) for under performing first round picks in Griffey's second year (1990) Erick Christopherson and Lance DicksonShady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:57 pmWhatever. But not too long ago Walker and Gorman were two of the hottest prospects in baseball. And Pittsburgh needs position players. Also, they will not likely be able to keep Skenes. If somebody is open-minded, this may not be as far-fetched as some may think. Considering the long term implications. Check out Quincy Varnish's post.Adam2 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:45 pmthe fact you even proposed this as a hypothetical IS THE PROBLEM. It shows your drastic lack of baseball acumen and knowledge. If you threw out a trade that even 1 GM in the history of major league baseball would consider for more than 1.5 seconds sure, maybe make a thread about it. but not 1 GM in the history of the sport would look at this trade and not laugh at youShady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:33 pmSeriously ? Think about it a little. There were two questions. Not something like, "the Cardinals should offer Walker and Gorman for Skenes".Futuregm2 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:19 pmShady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:10 pmPlease try to decipher that I didn't propose this trade. I just threw it out there. Thanks for being a respectful CT poster.Jatalk wrote: ↑07 May 2025 12:43 pm An open post to Shady:
Shady I have tried to come to your defense many times as you often get bashed by the CT Bully Patrol. I will continue to do so, but dude I have to tell you that you have it coming with this thread. You are WAY WAY off on this one. Be better man!![]()
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What the heck is the difference?
I'm similar to the previous poster in that i've had some fair back and forth with you about Burleson for example. But this...come on man. i can no longer take you seriously on any post
Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?
Maybe the Pirates would utilize Walker and Gorman differently.slimjay63801 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:42 pmWalker and Gorman would be replacing Hayes at 3rd and Reynolds at RF.. So the answer is yes, the Cards would but the Rats would laugh hysterically at the proposal.Shady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:39 pmCould be. Who really knows how the Pirates value Walker and Gorman? They may see them as potential power-hitting fixtures in their lineup for the next ten seasons. Long after Skenes has moved on. There is a difference between CT posters rationale and professional baseball evaluators'.Adam2 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:11 pmI did see his post. If they did trade him it would be for a fair package. Your package is like trading Ken Griffey Jr. in his second year (like Skenes) for under performing first round picks in Griffey's second year (1990) Erick Christopherson and Lance DicksonShady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:57 pmWhatever. But not too long ago Walker and Gorman were two of the hottest prospects in baseball. And Pittsburgh needs position players. Also, they will not likely be able to keep Skenes. If somebody is open-minded, this may not be as far-fetched as some may think. Considering the long term implications. Check out Quincy Varnish's post.Adam2 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:45 pmthe fact you even proposed this as a hypothetical IS THE PROBLEM. It shows your drastic lack of baseball acumen and knowledge. If you threw out a trade that even 1 GM in the history of major league baseball would consider for more than 1.5 seconds sure, maybe make a thread about it. but not 1 GM in the history of the sport would look at this trade and not laugh at youShady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:33 pmSeriously ? Think about it a little. There were two questions. Not something like, "the Cardinals should offer Walker and Gorman for Skenes".Futuregm2 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:19 pmShady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:10 pmPlease try to decipher that I didn't propose this trade. I just threw it out there. Thanks for being a respectful CT poster.Jatalk wrote: ↑07 May 2025 12:43 pm An open post to Shady:
Shady I have tried to come to your defense many times as you often get bashed by the CT Bully Patrol. I will continue to do so, but dude I have to tell you that you have it coming with this thread. You are WAY WAY off on this one. Be better man!![]()
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What the heck is the difference?
I'm similar to the previous poster in that i've had some fair back and forth with you about Burleson for example. But this...come on man. i can no longer take you seriously on any post
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Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?
Not a lot of wiggle room there. Gorman 2nd or 3rd. Walker in RF. Can't use them for DH. Neither hit above .190... There's just not enough value there to bring back even a high prospect Shady, much less to get Skenes.Shady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:44 pmMaybe the Pirates would utilize Walker and Gorman differently.slimjay63801 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:42 pmWalker and Gorman would be replacing Hayes at 3rd and Reynolds at RF.. So the answer is yes, the Cards would but the Rats would laugh hysterically at the proposal.Shady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:39 pmCould be. Who really knows how the Pirates value Walker and Gorman? They may see them as potential power-hitting fixtures in their lineup for the next ten seasons. Long after Skenes has moved on. There is a difference between CT posters rationale and professional baseball evaluators'.Adam2 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:11 pmI did see his post. If they did trade him it would be for a fair package. Your package is like trading Ken Griffey Jr. in his second year (like Skenes) for under performing first round picks in Griffey's second year (1990) Erick Christopherson and Lance DicksonShady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:57 pmWhatever. But not too long ago Walker and Gorman were two of the hottest prospects in baseball. And Pittsburgh needs position players. Also, they will not likely be able to keep Skenes. If somebody is open-minded, this may not be as far-fetched as some may think. Considering the long term implications. Check out Quincy Varnish's post.Adam2 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:45 pmthe fact you even proposed this as a hypothetical IS THE PROBLEM. It shows your drastic lack of baseball acumen and knowledge. If you threw out a trade that even 1 GM in the history of major league baseball would consider for more than 1.5 seconds sure, maybe make a thread about it. but not 1 GM in the history of the sport would look at this trade and not laugh at youShady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:33 pmSeriously ? Think about it a little. There were two questions. Not something like, "the Cardinals should offer Walker and Gorman for Skenes".Futuregm2 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:19 pmShady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:10 pmPlease try to decipher that I didn't propose this trade. I just threw it out there. Thanks for being a respectful CT poster.Jatalk wrote: ↑07 May 2025 12:43 pm An open post to Shady:
Shady I have tried to come to your defense many times as you often get bashed by the CT Bully Patrol. I will continue to do so, but dude I have to tell you that you have it coming with this thread. You are WAY WAY off on this one. Be better man!![]()
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What the heck is the difference?
I'm similar to the previous poster in that i've had some fair back and forth with you about Burleson for example. But this...come on man. i can no longer take you seriously on any post
Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?
I don't disagree. Depends on how the Pirates see Walker and Gorman, long-term. Obviously, right now, it would be a reach for them.slimjay63801 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:48 pmNot a lot of wiggle room there. Gorman 2nd or 3rd. Walker in RF. Can't use them for DH. Neither hit above .190... There's just not enough value there to bring back even a high prospect Shady, much less to get Skenes.Shady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:44 pmMaybe the Pirates would utilize Walker and Gorman differently.slimjay63801 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:42 pmWalker and Gorman would be replacing Hayes at 3rd and Reynolds at RF.. So the answer is yes, the Cards would but the Rats would laugh hysterically at the proposal.Shady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:39 pmCould be. Who really knows how the Pirates value Walker and Gorman? They may see them as potential power-hitting fixtures in their lineup for the next ten seasons. Long after Skenes has moved on. There is a difference between CT posters rationale and professional baseball evaluators'.Adam2 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:11 pmI did see his post. If they did trade him it would be for a fair package. Your package is like trading Ken Griffey Jr. in his second year (like Skenes) for under performing first round picks in Griffey's second year (1990) Erick Christopherson and Lance DicksonShady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:57 pmWhatever. But not too long ago Walker and Gorman were two of the hottest prospects in baseball. And Pittsburgh needs position players. Also, they will not likely be able to keep Skenes. If somebody is open-minded, this may not be as far-fetched as some may think. Considering the long term implications. Check out Quincy Varnish's post.Adam2 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:45 pmthe fact you even proposed this as a hypothetical IS THE PROBLEM. It shows your drastic lack of baseball acumen and knowledge. If you threw out a trade that even 1 GM in the history of major league baseball would consider for more than 1.5 seconds sure, maybe make a thread about it. but not 1 GM in the history of the sport would look at this trade and not laugh at youShady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:33 pmSeriously ? Think about it a little. There were two questions. Not something like, "the Cardinals should offer Walker and Gorman for Skenes".Futuregm2 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:19 pmShady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:10 pmPlease try to decipher that I didn't propose this trade. I just threw it out there. Thanks for being a respectful CT poster.Jatalk wrote: ↑07 May 2025 12:43 pm An open post to Shady:
Shady I have tried to come to your defense many times as you often get bashed by the CT Bully Patrol. I will continue to do so, but dude I have to tell you that you have it coming with this thread. You are WAY WAY off on this one. Be better man!![]()
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What the heck is the difference?
I'm similar to the previous poster in that i've had some fair back and forth with you about Burleson for example. But this...come on man. i can no longer take you seriously on any post
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Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?
I think you would need to throw in a couple "Wetherholts" to even start a convo for Skenes... Were talking about a generational type pitcher here. The ask would be more than the Cards would be willing to give up.Shady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:51 pmI don't disagree. Depends on how the Pirates see Walker and Gorman, long-term. Obviously, right now, it would be a reach for them.slimjay63801 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:48 pmNot a lot of wiggle room there. Gorman 2nd or 3rd. Walker in RF. Can't use them for DH. Neither hit above .190... There's just not enough value there to bring back even a high prospect Shady, much less to get Skenes.Shady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:44 pmMaybe the Pirates would utilize Walker and Gorman differently.slimjay63801 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:42 pmWalker and Gorman would be replacing Hayes at 3rd and Reynolds at RF.. So the answer is yes, the Cards would but the Rats would laugh hysterically at the proposal.Shady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:39 pmCould be. Who really knows how the Pirates value Walker and Gorman? They may see them as potential power-hitting fixtures in their lineup for the next ten seasons. Long after Skenes has moved on. There is a difference between CT posters rationale and professional baseball evaluators'.Adam2 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:11 pmI did see his post. If they did trade him it would be for a fair package. Your package is like trading Ken Griffey Jr. in his second year (like Skenes) for under performing first round picks in Griffey's second year (1990) Erick Christopherson and Lance DicksonShady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:57 pmWhatever. But not too long ago Walker and Gorman were two of the hottest prospects in baseball. And Pittsburgh needs position players. Also, they will not likely be able to keep Skenes. If somebody is open-minded, this may not be as far-fetched as some may think. Considering the long term implications. Check out Quincy Varnish's post.Adam2 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:45 pmthe fact you even proposed this as a hypothetical IS THE PROBLEM. It shows your drastic lack of baseball acumen and knowledge. If you threw out a trade that even 1 GM in the history of major league baseball would consider for more than 1.5 seconds sure, maybe make a thread about it. but not 1 GM in the history of the sport would look at this trade and not laugh at youShady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:33 pmSeriously ? Think about it a little. There were two questions. Not something like, "the Cardinals should offer Walker and Gorman for Skenes".Futuregm2 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:19 pmShady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:10 pmPlease try to decipher that I didn't propose this trade. I just threw it out there. Thanks for being a respectful CT poster.Jatalk wrote: ↑07 May 2025 12:43 pm An open post to Shady:
Shady I have tried to come to your defense many times as you often get bashed by the CT Bully Patrol. I will continue to do so, but dude I have to tell you that you have it coming with this thread. You are WAY WAY off on this one. Be better man!![]()
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What the heck is the difference?
I'm similar to the previous poster in that i've had some fair back and forth with you about Burleson for example. But this...come on man. i can no longer take you seriously on any post
Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?
Very good points.slimjay63801 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:55 pmI think you would need to throw in a couple "Wetherholts" to even start a convo for Skenes... Were talking about a generational type pitcher here. The ask would be more than the Cards would be willing to give up.Shady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:51 pmI don't disagree. Depends on how the Pirates see Walker and Gorman, long-term. Obviously, right now, it would be a reach for them.slimjay63801 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:48 pmNot a lot of wiggle room there. Gorman 2nd or 3rd. Walker in RF. Can't use them for DH. Neither hit above .190... There's just not enough value there to bring back even a high prospect Shady, much less to get Skenes.Shady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:44 pmMaybe the Pirates would utilize Walker and Gorman differently.slimjay63801 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:42 pmWalker and Gorman would be replacing Hayes at 3rd and Reynolds at RF.. So the answer is yes, the Cards would but the Rats would laugh hysterically at the proposal.Shady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:39 pmCould be. Who really knows how the Pirates value Walker and Gorman? They may see them as potential power-hitting fixtures in their lineup for the next ten seasons. Long after Skenes has moved on. There is a difference between CT posters rationale and professional baseball evaluators'.Adam2 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 15:11 pmI did see his post. If they did trade him it would be for a fair package. Your package is like trading Ken Griffey Jr. in his second year (like Skenes) for under performing first round picks in Griffey's second year (1990) Erick Christopherson and Lance DicksonShady wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:57 pmWhatever. But not too long ago Walker and Gorman were two of the hottest prospects in baseball. And Pittsburgh needs position players. Also, they will not likely be able to keep Skenes. If somebody is open-minded, this may not be as far-fetched as some may think. Considering the long term implications. Check out Quincy Varnish's post.Adam2 wrote: ↑07 May 2025 14:45 pmthe fact you even proposed this as a hypothetical IS THE PROBLEM. It shows your drastic lack of baseball acumen and knowledge. If you threw out a trade that even 1 GM in the history of major league baseball would consider for more than 1.5 seconds sure, maybe make a thread about it. but not 1 GM in the history of the sport would look at this trade and not laugh at you
I'm similar to the previous poster in that i've had some fair back and forth with you about Burleson for example. But this...come on man. i can no longer take you seriously on any post
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Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?
Saw the thread title and knew who the OP was immediately. No one else on CT would ask such a question.
Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?
You are so cool.Horseradish wrote: ↑07 May 2025 17:18 pm Saw the thread title and knew who the OP was immediately. No one else on CT would ask such a question.
Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?
There were a ton of rumors about how juiced that LSU team was in Skenes Sr. year. I like him, but he might be on the Mark Prior career track.
Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?
Of course the cardinals would do it. If they finish 1 and 2 in the MVP race the Pirates might consider it.
Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?
Proposal so awful they fired their manager.
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