Hockey trade

[Pierre McGuire]

Brainstorming with a player that has been brought up in lots of trades. Not saying I'm necessarily advocating for this as it's very risky, but also has a big upside (similar to the Captials acquiring Pierre-Luc Dubois), and this player also has a NMC starting on July 1st. That player is Elias Pettersson.

He had a down year, and a bad second half of 2024 as well, with clear decline in skating speed and shot power. Is it just an injury that once recovered from you have a potential #1C (or a 1A/1B situation with him and Thomas)? That's the risk and reward of this option. You take on a player in decline who is owed $11.6M for the next seven seasons, but you might also have a(nother) franchise center who is only 26.5 years old. It' gives you the ability to keep growing with the young players (mostly wingers) while also making a move to increase the odds of a deep playoff run in the next two years while Binner is still under contract (and in his early 30s) . . . if he rebounds. You could also be tying a boat anchor to your payroll for the foreseeable future for an often injured middle six center . . . if he doesn't rebound.

Man all those stories about Pettersson and the locker room issues and rumors that the Canucks deciding not to move him being a main reason that Tocchet is not coming back along with the Hughes reason as well but there is a lot of negativity around Pettersson right now.

[theograce]

Broberg didn’t play soft this series

Averaged about 0.5 hits per game. 1.3 blocked shots per game … and got knocked on on his (donkey) all over.

Super soft series

[DawgDad]

Kyrou+Broberg for Power

I want him

Not sure I'd trade Broberg for him.

What parts of Broberg’s game do you prefer?

Frankly, Broberg is pretty darn good. I haven't seen enough of Power to play GM here. If he skates and thinks the game as well as Broberg in his big body then he's a Hall of Famer work in progress. If the Blues get to the point where they cannot sign Broberg then trade him, otherwise this strikes me as trading for the sake of trading.

[theograce]

Kyrou+Broberg for Power

I want him

Not sure I'd trade Broberg for him.

What parts of Broberg’s game do you prefer?

Frankly, Broberg is pretty darn good. I haven't seen enough of Power to play GM here. If he skates and thinks the game as well as Broberg in his big body then he's a Hall of Famer work in progress.

Why are you talking HOFers and now saying you wouldn’t make a trade when you know little about players?

Weird

[somni]

Brainstorming with a player that has been brought up in lots of trades. Not saying I'm necessarily advocating for this as it's very risky, but also has a big upside (similar to the Captials acquiring Pierre-Luc Dubois), and this player also has a NMC starting on July 1st. That player is Elias Pettersson.

He had a down year, and a bad second half of 2024 as well, with clear decline in skating speed and shot power. Is it just an injury that once recovered from you have a potential #1C (or a 1A/1B situation with him and Thomas)? That's the risk and reward of this option. You take on a player in decline who is owed $11.6M for the next seven seasons, but you might also have a(nother) franchise center who is only 26.5 years old. It' gives you the ability to keep growing with the young players (mostly wingers) while also making a move to increase the odds of a deep playoff run in the next two years while Binner is still under contract (and in his early 30s) . . . if he rebounds. You could also be tying a boat anchor to your payroll for the foreseeable future for an often injured middle six center . . . if he doesn't rebound.

Man all those stories about Pettersson and the locker room issues and rumors that the Canucks deciding not to move him being a main reason that Tocchet is not coming back along with the Hughes reason as well but there is a lot of negativity around Pettersson right now.

Yep. I'd stay away from Pettersson. He has headcase and lack of compete written all over him. Especially at $11.6. No thanks.

[STL fan in MN]

Brainstorming with a player that has been brought up in lots of trades. Not saying I'm necessarily advocating for this as it's very risky, but also has a big upside (similar to the Captials acquiring Pierre-Luc Dubois), and this player also has a NMC starting on July 1st. That player is Elias Pettersson.

He had a down year, and a bad second half of 2024 as well, with clear decline in skating speed and shot power. Is it just an injury that once recovered from you have a potential #1C (or a 1A/1B situation with him and Thomas)? That's the risk and reward of this option. You take on a player in decline who is owed $11.6M for the next seven seasons, but you might also have a(nother) franchise center who is only 26.5 years old. It' gives you the ability to keep growing with the young players (mostly wingers) while also making a move to increase the odds of a deep playoff run in the next two years while Binner is still under contract (and in his early 30s) . . . if he rebounds. You could also be tying a boat anchor to your payroll for the foreseeable future for an often injured middle six center . . . if he doesn't rebound.

Man all those stories about Pettersson and the locker room issues and rumors that the Canucks deciding not to move him being a main reason that Tocchet is not coming back along with the Hughes reason as well but there is a lot of negativity around Pettersson right now.

Yep. For all that, I wouldn’t want to trade assets for the headache of Pettersson. I don’t like his compete level either.

[noted]

Broberg didn’t play soft this series

Averaged about 0.5 hits per game. 1.3 blocked shots per game … and got knocked on on his (donkey) all over.

Super soft series

You think Broberg is soft yet you want to trade him and the Blues leading scorer for Owen Power...doh.

Guy had 26 hits all year...
https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/owen-power-checks

[theograce]

Broberg didn’t play soft this series

Averaged about 0.5 hits per game. 1.3 blocked shots per game … and got knocked on on his (donkey) all over.

Super soft series

You think Broberg is soft yet you want to trade him and the Blues leading scorer for Owen Power...doh.

Guy had 26 hits all year...
https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/owen-power-checks

In hockey the leading scorer is points. I don’t think Broberg is soft. He is soft right now. There is no denying it. And yes, I’d rather have the big man over Broberg.

[noted]

Broberg didn’t play soft this series

Averaged about 0.5 hits per game. 1.3 blocked shots per game … and got knocked on on his (donkey) all over.

Super soft series

You think Broberg is soft yet you want to trade him and the Blues leading scorer for Owen Power...doh.

Guy had 26 hits all year...
https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/owen-power-checks

In hockey the leading scorer is points. I don’t think Broberg is soft. He is soft right now. There is no denying it. And yes, I’d rather have the big man over Broberg.

Just to clarify - when you say the big man, you mean the big man that had 26 hits all year? And you want to trade the Blues lead goal scorer and Broberg for him?

[Bluesfan1978]

Broberg didn’t play soft this series

Averaged about 0.5 hits per game. 1.3 blocked shots per game … and got knocked on on his (donkey) all over.

Super soft series

He didn’t shy away from contact to make a pass. He came into scrums and even threw a player down at least once. I think he only had one even strength goal scored against while he was in the ice.
Not sure what else you could want from him.

[theograce]

Broberg didn’t play soft this series

Averaged about 0.5 hits per game. 1.3 blocked shots per game … and got knocked on on his (donkey) all over.

Super soft series

You think Broberg is soft yet you want to trade him and the Blues leading scorer for Owen Power...doh.

Guy had 26 hits all year...
https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/owen-power-checks

In hockey the leading scorer is points. I don’t think Broberg is soft. He is soft right now. There is no denying it. And yes, I’d rather have the big man over Broberg.

Just to clarify - when you say the big man, you mean the big man that had 26 hits all year? And you want to trade the Blues lead goal scorer and Broberg for him?

Yeah. That one. He’s a big man

[theograce]

Broberg didn’t play soft this series

Averaged about 0.5 hits per game. 1.3 blocked shots per game … and got knocked on on his (donkey) all over.

Super soft series

He didn’t shy away from contact to make a pass. He came into scrums

Came into scrums lol…come on. Post it…what game…I wanna go back and watch

[noted]

Broberg didn’t play soft this series

Averaged about 0.5 hits per game. 1.3 blocked shots per game … and got knocked on on his (donkey) all over.

Super soft series

You think Broberg is soft yet you want to trade him and the Blues leading scorer for Owen Power...doh.

Guy had 26 hits all year...
https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/owen-power-checks

In hockey the leading scorer is points. I don’t think Broberg is soft. He is soft right now. There is no denying it. And yes, I’d rather have the big man over Broberg.

Just to clarify - when you say the big man, you mean the big man that had 26 hits all year? And you want to trade the Blues lead goal scorer and Broberg for him?

Yeah. That one. He’s a big man

Big man who hits at 50% of the rate that Broberg does, but you implied Broberg was soft because he doesn't hit enough. Perfectly logical...

[DawgDad]

Broberg didn’t play soft this series

Averaged about 0.5 hits per game. 1.3 blocked shots per game … and got knocked on on his (donkey) all over.

Super soft series

You think Broberg is soft yet you want to trade him and the Blues leading scorer for Owen Power...doh.

Guy had 26 hits all year...
https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/owen-power-checks

In hockey the leading scorer is points. I don’t think Broberg is soft. He is soft right now. There is no denying it. And yes, I’d rather have the big man over Broberg.

Denied. Broberg was a HUGE factor in the Blues getting to Game 7 and into 2OT. If you want to have a different opinion that's your right but you won't change my opinion of what I've been seeing Blues game in game out, and I've seen them all this season. Broberg is not soft "right now". He was never "soft" in these playoffs. He is similar to Bouwmeester in style, focused primarily on playing defense, which he does very well.

If you want to trade Broberg for Power go ahead. I don't want to trade him at all, he's a big part of the solution. If you want to trade Kyrou and Broberg for Power, well, I already passed at Broberg.

[theograce]

Broberg didn’t play soft this series

Averaged about 0.5 hits per game. 1.3 blocked shots per game … and got knocked on on his (donkey) all over.

Super soft series

You think Broberg is soft yet you want to trade him and the Blues leading scorer for Owen Power...doh.

Guy had 26 hits all year...
https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/owen-power-checks

In hockey the leading scorer is points. I don’t think Broberg is soft. He is soft right now. There is no denying it. And yes, I’d rather have the big man over Broberg.

Just to clarify - when you say the big man, you mean the big man that had 26 hits all year? And you want to trade the Blues lead goal scorer and Broberg for him?

Yeah. That one. He’s a big man

Big man who hits at 50% of the rate that Broberg does, but you implied Broberg was soft because he doesn't hit enough. Perfectly logical...

Yeah that guy. I’ll take the much bigger non physical of the 2 with more upside. Crazy hey

[noted]

Broberg didn’t play soft this series

Averaged about 0.5 hits per game. 1.3 blocked shots per game … and got knocked on on his (donkey) all over.

Super soft series

You think Broberg is soft yet you want to trade him and the Blues leading scorer for Owen Power...doh.

Guy had 26 hits all year...
https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/owen-power-checks

In hockey the leading scorer is points. I don’t think Broberg is soft. He is soft right now. There is no denying it. And yes, I’d rather have the big man over Broberg.

Just to clarify - when you say the big man, you mean the big man that had 26 hits all year? And you want to trade the Blues lead goal scorer and Broberg for him?

Yeah. That one. He’s a big man

Big man who hits at 50% of the rate that Broberg does, but you implied Broberg was soft because he doesn't hit enough. Perfectly logical...

Yeah that guy. I’ll take the much bigger non physical of the 2 with more upside. Crazy hey

Alight just to confirm one last thing. You dogged Broberg because he played too soft, but again your solution is to trade Broberg, and the guy that scored the most goals on the Blues for someone who plays even softer than Broberg does? Chess not checkers. Your parents must be so proud...