McGreevey should ask for a trade

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McGreevey should ask for a trade

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There is nothing more this dude can do. All he has done is throw strikes, gets outs, not give up runs and get wins.

You would think a 25 year old (in 50 days) that has done everything he can in the minor leagues and been an A+ at the big leagues, would be given a permanent opportunity for a franchise claiming to be rebuilding and developing.

Called up. Throws shut out ball, gets the win. Demoted immediately. What kind of message does that send throughout the organization that performance means nothing to the Cardinals?

If he was 21, different story. But at 25... the Cardinals appear completely ready to jerk him around his entire professional career and prevent him from ever getting a fair competition, or getting a chance to earn real baseball money.

Demand a trade. I certainly would. Seriously, even pitching in Colorado would help him more than being in this organization.
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McGreevey was sent down for not being available for several days. He is a bullpen piece currently, and that would limit the bullpen for the next several days.
It's a very simple and common scenario around the league.
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PacNWCardsfan2 wrote: 06 May 2025 13:02 pm McGreevey was sent down for not being available for several days. He is a bullpen piece currently, and that would limit the bullpen for the next several days.
It's a very simple and common scenario around the league.
there's several on here that need drama created as a storyline. They flock to the Bernie's of the journalism world for manufactured chaos.
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Lloyd Braun wrote: 06 May 2025 12:59 pm There is nothing more this dude can do. All he has done is throw strikes, gets outs, not give up runs and get wins.

You would think a 25 year old (in 50 days) that has done everything he can in the minor leagues and been an A+ at the big leagues, would be given a permanent opportunity for a franchise claiming to be rebuilding and developing.

Called up. Throws shut out ball, gets the win. Demoted immediately. What kind of message does that send throughout the organization that performance means nothing to the Cardinals?

If he was 21, different story. But at 25... the Cardinals appear completely ready to jerk him around his entire professional career and prevent him from ever getting a fair competition, or getting a chance to earn real baseball money.

Demand a trade. I certainly would. Seriously, even pitching in Colorado would help him more than being in this organization.
He would be dumb to do that.
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Lloyd Braun wrote: 06 May 2025 12:59 pm There is nothing more this dude can do. All he has done is throw strikes, gets outs, not give up runs and get wins.

You would think a 25 year old (in 50 days) that has done everything he can in the minor leagues and been an A+ at the big leagues, would be given a permanent opportunity for a franchise claiming to be rebuilding and developing.

Called up. Throws shut out ball, gets the win. Demoted immediately. What kind of message does that send throughout the organization that performance means nothing to the Cardinals?

If he was 21, different story. But at 25... the Cardinals appear completely ready to jerk him around his entire professional career and prevent him from ever getting a fair competition, or getting a chance to earn real baseball money.

Demand a trade. I certainly would. Seriously, even pitching in Colorado would help him more than being in this organization.
And what exactly are you & Mr McGreevy going to use for leverage? I mean, I could probably demand sex from Sydney Sweeney, but I'm not sure that would do me any good.
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craviduce wrote: 06 May 2025 13:04 pm
PacNWCardsfan2 wrote: 06 May 2025 13:02 pm McGreevey was sent down for not being available for several days. He is a bullpen piece currently, and that would limit the bullpen for the next several days.
It's a very simple and common scenario around the league.
there's several on here that need drama created as a storyline. They flock to the Bernie's of the journalism world for manufactured chaos.
Really duce :?
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Why would he demand a trade when the path is wide open for him going forward with Mikolas, Fedde, and Matz in the last years of their contracts?
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Monsieur De Treville wrote: 06 May 2025 13:08 pm
Lloyd Braun wrote: 06 May 2025 12:59 pm There is nothing more this dude can do. All he has done is throw strikes, gets outs, not give up runs and get wins.

You would think a 25 year old (in 50 days) that has done everything he can in the minor leagues and been an A+ at the big leagues, would be given a permanent opportunity for a franchise claiming to be rebuilding and developing.

Called up. Throws shut out ball, gets the win. Demoted immediately. What kind of message does that send throughout the organization that performance means nothing to the Cardinals?

If he was 21, different story. But at 25... the Cardinals appear completely ready to jerk him around his entire professional career and prevent him from ever getting a fair competition, or getting a chance to earn real baseball money.

Demand a trade. I certainly would. Seriously, even pitching in Colorado would help him more than being in this organization.
And what exactly are you & Mr McGreevy going to use for leverage? I mean, I could probably demand sex from Sydney Sweeney, but I'm not sure that would do me any good.
First, you do it privately. Force them to at least address it with you. Maybe they listen.

If nothing changes, he could ask the union to step in on his behalf and make accusations about the Cardinals manipulating his service time. They've done that before.

He and his agent could go public about it, making it a PR nightmare for the Cardinals. Warn prospects that if drafted by STL, they should consider not signing with the Cardinals and go back in the draft.

The Cardinals under DeWitt today aren't a baseball team, they are a sales and marketing firm with a baseball operation on the side. Public Relations mean everything to them. Make them uncomfortable.

Starting Pitching is the most valuable commodity in the industry. So there would be no shortage of teams that would die for him in their rotation right now. We appear to be the only organization that doesn't want it.
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Demanding a trade makes as much sense as sending him down. McGreevy belongs in the rotation, Graceffo in the pen. Baker should have been DFA-ed, traded or sent down along with Barerro to learn how to throw to 1B again. Three throwing errors in two games doesn't inspire confidence. Sageese deserves to be up. Mikolas and Fedde starts are predictably mediocre and painful to watch as is the faux reset/rebuild or whatever they wanna call it.
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Lloyd Braun wrote: 06 May 2025 12:59 pm There is nothing more this dude can do. All he has done is throw strikes, gets outs, not give up runs and get wins.

You would think a 25 year old (in 50 days) that has done everything he can in the minor leagues and been an A+ at the big leagues, would be given a permanent opportunity for a franchise claiming to be rebuilding and developing.

Called up. Throws shut out ball, gets the win. Demoted immediately. What kind of message does that send throughout the organization that performance means nothing to the Cardinals?

If he was 21, different story. But at 25... the Cardinals appear completely ready to jerk him around his entire professional career and prevent him from ever getting a fair competition, or getting a chance to earn real baseball money.

Demand a trade. I certainly would. Seriously, even pitching in Colorado would help him more than being in this organization.
Why when you are in a perfect position compared to just 1 year ago?
The team wants to shed pay, at least 3 openings are coming not counting any injuries.
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renostl wrote: 06 May 2025 13:34 pm
Lloyd Braun wrote: 06 May 2025 12:59 pm There is nothing more this dude can do. All he has done is throw strikes, gets outs, not give up runs and get wins.

You would think a 25 year old (in 50 days) that has done everything he can in the minor leagues and been an A+ at the big leagues, would be given a permanent opportunity for a franchise claiming to be rebuilding and developing.

Called up. Throws shut out ball, gets the win. Demoted immediately. What kind of message does that send throughout the organization that performance means nothing to the Cardinals?

If he was 21, different story. But at 25... the Cardinals appear completely ready to jerk him around his entire professional career and prevent him from ever getting a fair competition, or getting a chance to earn real baseball money.

Demand a trade. I certainly would. Seriously, even pitching in Colorado would help him more than being in this organization.
Why when you are in a perfect position compared to just 1 year ago?
The team wants to shed pay, at least 3 openings are coming not counting any injuries.
The fact the Cardinals don't consider there to be openings right now is a problem in itself. They are proving they don't follow common sense, so trying to assume they will make the common sense move in the near future has proven to be an unreliable instrument.

He's already been ready for a full year, so any delay at this point is asset malpractice.
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Lloyd Braun wrote: 06 May 2025 13:40 pm
renostl wrote: 06 May 2025 13:34 pm
Lloyd Braun wrote: 06 May 2025 12:59 pm There is nothing more this dude can do. All he has done is throw strikes, gets outs, not give up runs and get wins.

You would think a 25 year old (in 50 days) that has done everything he can in the minor leagues and been an A+ at the big leagues, would be given a permanent opportunity for a franchise claiming to be rebuilding and developing.

Called up. Throws shut out ball, gets the win. Demoted immediately. What kind of message does that send throughout the organization that performance means nothing to the Cardinals?

If he was 21, different story. But at 25... the Cardinals appear completely ready to jerk him around his entire professional career and prevent him from ever getting a fair competition, or getting a chance to earn real baseball money.

Demand a trade. I certainly would. Seriously, even pitching in Colorado would help him more than being in this organization.
Why when you are in a perfect position compared to just 1 year ago?
The team wants to shed pay, at least 3 openings are coming not counting any injuries.
The fact the Cardinals don't consider there to be openings right now is a problem in itself. They are proving they don't follow common sense, so trying to assume they will make the common sense move in the near future has proven to be an unreliable instrument.

He's already been ready for a full year, so any delay at this point is asset malpractice.
True. But again in business, money money money money. Contracts play. And good, as these contracts are holding there own, as well as value, for the deadline sell. Then comes the kids.
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Lloyd Braun wrote: 06 May 2025 13:24 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 06 May 2025 13:08 pm
Lloyd Braun wrote: 06 May 2025 12:59 pm There is nothing more this dude can do. All he has done is throw strikes, gets outs, not give up runs and get wins.

You would think a 25 year old (in 50 days) that has done everything he can in the minor leagues and been an A+ at the big leagues, would be given a permanent opportunity for a franchise claiming to be rebuilding and developing.

Called up. Throws shut out ball, gets the win. Demoted immediately. What kind of message does that send throughout the organization that performance means nothing to the Cardinals?

If he was 21, different story. But at 25... the Cardinals appear completely ready to jerk him around his entire professional career and prevent him from ever getting a fair competition, or getting a chance to earn real baseball money.

Demand a trade. I certainly would. Seriously, even pitching in Colorado would help him more than being in this organization.
And what exactly are you & Mr McGreevy going to use for leverage? I mean, I could probably demand sex from Sydney Sweeney, but I'm not sure that would do me any good.
First, you do it privately. Force them to at least address it with you. Maybe they listen.

If nothing changes, he could ask the union to step in on his behalf and make accusations about the Cardinals manipulating his service time. They've done that before.

He and his agent could go public about it, making it a PR nightmare for the Cardinals. Warn prospects that if drafted by STL, they should consider not signing with the Cardinals and go back in the draft.

The Cardinals under DeWitt today aren't a baseball team, they are a sales and marketing firm with a baseball operation on the side. Public Relations mean everything to them. Make them uncomfortable.

Starting Pitching is the most valuable commodity in the industry. So there would be no shortage of teams that would die for him in their rotation right now. We appear to be the only organization that doesn't want it.
McGreevy will be in the rotation full time by the end of the season he is smart enough to know this and luckily he is not dumb enough to show he isn't a team player is selfish and to anger his teammates and management and try to sabotage the team and organization. Im sure if he did all that teams would lining up to trade for a poisonous guy like that lol
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Smart move by stl to option him to AAA while a fresh Graeoffo available.

Easing McGreevy in isn’t the worst thing in the world…
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Lloyd Braun wrote: 06 May 2025 12:59 pm There is nothing more this dude can do. All he has done is throw strikes, gets outs, not give up runs and get wins.

You would think a 25 year old (in 50 days) that has done everything he can in the minor leagues and been an A+ at the big leagues, would be given a permanent opportunity for a franchise claiming to be rebuilding and developing.

Called up. Throws shut out ball, gets the win. Demoted immediately. What kind of message does that send throughout the organization that performance means nothing to the Cardinals?

If he was 21, different story. But at 25... the Cardinals appear completely ready to jerk him around his entire professional career and prevent him from ever getting a fair competition, or getting a chance to earn real baseball money.

Demand a trade. I certainly would. Seriously, even pitching in Colorado would help him more than being in this organization.
dumb comment and thread. He is not in that position at this point in his career
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Lloyd Braun wrote: 06 May 2025 13:24 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 06 May 2025 13:08 pm
Lloyd Braun wrote: 06 May 2025 12:59 pm There is nothing more this dude can do. All he has done is throw strikes, gets outs, not give up runs and get wins.

You would think a 25 year old (in 50 days) that has done everything he can in the minor leagues and been an A+ at the big leagues, would be given a permanent opportunity for a franchise claiming to be rebuilding and developing.

Called up. Throws shut out ball, gets the win. Demoted immediately. What kind of message does that send throughout the organization that performance means nothing to the Cardinals?

If he was 21, different story. But at 25... the Cardinals appear completely ready to jerk him around his entire professional career and prevent him from ever getting a fair competition, or getting a chance to earn real baseball money.

Demand a trade. I certainly would. Seriously, even pitching in Colorado would help him more than being in this organization.
And what exactly are you & Mr McGreevy going to use for leverage? I mean, I could probably demand sex from Sydney Sweeney, but I'm not sure that would do me any good.
First, you do it privately. Force them to at least address it with you. Maybe they listen.

If nothing changes, he could ask the union to step in on his behalf and make accusations about the Cardinals manipulating his service time. They've done that before.

He and his agent could go public about it, making it a PR nightmare for the Cardinals. Warn prospects that if drafted by STL, they should consider not signing with the Cardinals and go back in the draft.

The Cardinals under DeWitt today aren't a baseball team, they are a sales and marketing firm with a baseball operation on the side. Public Relations mean everything to them. Make them uncomfortable.

Starting Pitching is the most valuable commodity in the industry. So there would be no shortage of teams that would die for him in their rotation right now. We appear to be the only organization that doesn't want it.
Sounds like a great way to ruin a player's reputation around the league. Just what every GM wants...a player that reaches out to prospects and earns them about his team. Brilliant!
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