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Faska

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Blues need to resign him definitely!!!!
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Faksa was great, agreed.

However, I think that the Blues need to lean on their prospects at this point. Faksa provided a great example of what a good bottom-6 C should be. Go Dvorsky/Stenberg. Faksa is your model.

That said, I would happy to see Faksa back for 1 more year if it happened.
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Can't afford him...he'll command in the $5mill range and some term after his playoffs
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smilinjoefission wrote: 06 May 2025 08:39 am Can't afford him...he'll command in the $5mill range and some term after his playoffs
He scored 15 points this season. He’ll be lucky to get $2M.

That said, I’d like to have the guy back. But he’s not worth the $3.25M we paid him this season. Which is why Dallas gave him to us for free. Good 4C but he was overpaid for what he brings these days. Hopefully Army and Faksa can come to an agreement on a fair deal.

Dvorsky makes absolutely no sense as the 4C. That’s not his strength or role. Stenberg is a winger so…he’d make even less sense.
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smilinjoefission wrote: 06 May 2025 08:39 am Can't afford him...he'll command in the $5mill range and some term after his playoffs
HAHAHA! 5 million? If some team pays him that they deserve to suffer through that contract. He'll be 32 next year. I do hope they keep him though, he's one of those keys you need in the playoffs.
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Nice playoff piece but brutal for a full season. And that’s the problem with Blues roster…guys like Sunny and Faska are nice pieces to have come playoff hockey…but for an entire regular season…where they don’t play playoff hockey…they can be viewed as slow and non-productive for the money you pay them. Two different type of seasons and these are two different type of players. Both more suited for the post season where the hockey is heavy and their experience playing that kind of style is beneficial…IMO.
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BobbyBlue wrote: 06 May 2025 09:30 am Nice playoff piece but brutal for a full season. And that’s the problem with Blues roster…guys like Sunny and Faska are nice pieces to have come playoff hockey…but for an entire regular season…where they don’t play playoff hockey…they can be viewed as slow and non-productive for the money you pay them. Two different type of seasons and these are two different type of players. Both more suited for the post season where the hockey is heavy and their experience playing that kind of style is beneficial…IMO.
Nice regular season piece but brutal for a full playoffs. And that’s the problem with Blues roster…a guy like Kyrou is a nice pieces to have during the regular season…but for an entire playoffs…where they don’t play regular season hockey…he can be viewed as non-productive for the money you pay him. Two different type of seasons.. Kyrou is more suited for the regular season where the hockey is more wide open and his experience floating around and not having to fight through to make a play... .
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BobbyBlue wrote: 06 May 2025 09:30 am Nice playoff piece but brutal for a full season. And that’s the problem with Blues roster…guys like Sunny and Faska are nice pieces to have come playoff hockey…but for an entire regular season…where they don’t play playoff hockey…they can be viewed as slow and non-productive for the money you pay them. Two different type of seasons and these are two different type of players. Both more suited for the post season where the hockey is heavy and their experience playing that kind of style is beneficial…IMO.
I would disagree entirely, Faksa takes a ton of pressure off a guy like Thomas all season long. Ive thought we have been missing a guy like Faksa for a while.

It really showed a few years ago when we paid ROR a fortune to dig around in the trenches doing what a guy like Faksa can do for around 1.7 million ish allowing us to put the skilled and higher paid players in a much better position to succeed.
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skilles wrote: 06 May 2025 09:43 am
BobbyBlue wrote: 06 May 2025 09:30 am Nice playoff piece but brutal for a full season. And that’s the problem with Blues roster…guys like Sunny and Faska are nice pieces to have come playoff hockey…but for an entire regular season…where they don’t play playoff hockey…they can be viewed as slow and non-productive for the money you pay them. Two different type of seasons and these are two different type of players. Both more suited for the post season where the hockey is heavy and their experience playing that kind of style is beneficial…IMO.
I would disagree entirely, Faksa takes a ton of pressure off a guy like Thomas all season long. Ive thought we have been missing a guy like Faksa for a while.

It really showed a few years ago when we paid ROR a fortune to dig around in the trenches doing what a guy like Faksa can do for around 1.7 million ish allowing us to put the skilled and higher paid players in a much better position to succeed.
I hear ya. But the regular season requires a different type of player. If you’re ok with fighting for a playoff spot because your bottom six is more suited for playoff hockey vs regular season hockey…then go for it. I’m just saying that guys like Faska and Sunny are guys you pick up at the trade deadline as final pieces to a team geared to make a playoff run. All season long posters were saying how the game past Sunny by. But no one complained of his playoff performance. Faska…while under the radar…was much more valuable to the roster during the playoffs as well. I like them both…but the regular season is just a different animal as compared to what you need in the playoffs.
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Faksa was good in Dallas as well.

However, Dallas is so deep at C, and so youthful, they could lose him without even 1 pillow turn.

Some credit Army for finding Faksa.

I blame Army for not finding C's like Dallas does. You will never win a Cup by utilizing the C's that were culled easily from strong teams.
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BobbyBlue wrote: 06 May 2025 10:01 am
skilles wrote: 06 May 2025 09:43 am
BobbyBlue wrote: 06 May 2025 09:30 am Nice playoff piece but brutal for a full season. And that’s the problem with Blues roster…guys like Sunny and Faska are nice pieces to have come playoff hockey…but for an entire regular season…where they don’t play playoff hockey…they can be viewed as slow and non-productive for the money you pay them. Two different type of seasons and these are two different type of players. Both more suited for the post season where the hockey is heavy and their experience playing that kind of style is beneficial…IMO.
I would disagree entirely, Faksa takes a ton of pressure off a guy like Thomas all season long. Ive thought we have been missing a guy like Faksa for a while.

It really showed a few years ago when we paid ROR a fortune to dig around in the trenches doing what a guy like Faksa can do for around 1.7 million ish allowing us to put the skilled and higher paid players in a much better position to succeed.
I hear ya. But the regular season requires a different type of player. If you’re ok with fighting for a playoff spot because your bottom six is more suited for playoff hockey vs regular season hockey…then go for it. I’m just saying that guys like Faska and Sunny are guys you pick up at the trade deadline as final pieces to a team geared to make a playoff run. All season long posters were saying how the game past Sunny by. But no one complained of his playoff performance. Faska…while under the radar…was much more valuable to the roster during the playoffs as well. I like them both…but the regular season is just a different animal as compared to what you need in the playoffs.
I disagree completely guys like that are great for the regular season with manageable cap hits and the ability eat some minutes to keep your stars as fresh as possible and ideally are replaced with a more skilled players at the deadline when cap hit is less of a factor.
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Re: Faska

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a smell of green grass wrote: 06 May 2025 10:11 am Faksa was good in Dallas as well.

However, Dallas is so deep at C, and so youthful, they could lose him without even 1 pillow turn.

Some credit Army for finding Faksa.

I blame Army for not finding C's like Dallas does. You will never win a Cup by utilizing the C's that were culled easily from strong teams.
We weren't trying to win a cup this year.
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If you can't get Faksa signed for a reasonable amount, you could probably get this guy for practically nothing who is essentially the exact same player:

https://puckpedia.com/player/noel-acciari
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He'd be a good piece to keep even if it meant moving on from Sunny, but having a couple guys that can play bottom 6 C isn't a bad thing. We really have three in Schenn, Faska, Sunny with Schenn being able to flex to 2C if needed. That's not bad depth if we have someone who can play 2C. Sunny can play the wing and be there to cover for injuries.
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Faksa is a guy you can have for 1 more year and you would be happy about. But he played well enough to demand somewhere between 2.5-3m. I don't think the Blues need to spend that since they have sunny as a similar 4th liner. Apparently Sunny was one of the top 10 defensive players in the league this year according to expected goals against when on the ice. One HUGE difference between Sunny and Faksa was that Faksa had a 57 FO percentage. It was his career year. It's the one thing Otter is really good for. He seems to always elevate everyones FO skill.

Faksa outplayed Sunny tho, so if you want to show the locker room you reward good play, to me you get Faksa back unless someone outbids you and then you platoon sunny.
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Re: Faska

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succinct712 wrote: 06 May 2025 09:22 am
smilinjoefission wrote: 06 May 2025 08:39 am Can't afford him...he'll command in the $5mill range and some term after his playoffs
HAHAHA! 5 million? If some team pays him that they deserve to suffer through that contract. He'll be 32 next year. I do hope they keep him though, he's one of those keys you need in the playoffs.
I thought he meant $5 total on multiple year deal. If he meant $5 AAV, then...well
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