Not MLB Players

[Youboughtit]

Baker
0 HR
.201 .314 .327 .641

Burleson
0 HR
.256 .302 .289 .591

Agreed send them all down….I don’t put Baker and Burly in same class as Walker/Gorman. Although for some reason Burly is somehow a starter

Gorman and Walker are supposed to get “runway” this year. Let them play. Burleson and Baker don’t even have the potential to be impact starters in the big leagues. Gorman does. Let him play.

When is the drop off point? Can’t just give them forever. So if they don’t turn it around by end of season can we move on? Because they won’t.

[alw80]

Walker
206 .270 .554

Gorman
.172 .275 .585

So how much longer do we need to see this? Going on years for both. They both have obvious holes in their swings so there’s no mystery why they don’t perform. Send them down to AAA and if they don’t over perform there for an extended period…..its over move on

Scott was a similar case. Seems all teams have these guys. Where do we get a replacement level player. Walker defense is now an asset.

But his bat makes him a negative asset.

.273 is not a negative asset.

2025 BWAR -0.1
Career BWAR -1.1

2025 OPS+ 57
Career OPS+ 95

Hes a negative.

[11WSChamps]

Walker
206 .270 .554

Gorman
.172 .275 .585

So how much longer do we need to see this? Going on years for both. They both have obvious holes in their swings so there’s no mystery why they don’t perform. Send them down to AAA and if they don’t over perform there for an extended period…..its over move on

Scott was a similar case. Seems all teams have these guys. Where do we get a replacement level player. Walker defense is now an asset.

But his bat makes him a negative asset.

It certainly does.
But if he improves any at all, and if he gets even better in right, he will be an asset.

Corner Of'ers first and foremost have to provide more than aveage offense. Its in the DNA of the position and always will be.

Defense comes a distant second.

If my corner Of'ers are in the .800 plus OPS range they don't have to be GG'ers.

[rockondlouie]

Baker
0 HR
.201 .314 .327 .641

Burleson
0 HR
.256 .302 .289 .591

Agreed send them all down….I don’t put Baker and Burly in same class as Walker/Gorman. Although for some reason Burly is somehow a starter

Oli's guy, just like Sinai was until Mo finally took him away from him.

Now Mo needs to do the same w/Baker (as soon as Hererra returns) and toss Bumbles into any big deal made for Helsley, Fedde, Matz etal.

[Lightning Rod]

Trade the all so they can become all stars for someone else.

[RichieRichSTL]

Walker
206 .270 .554

Gorman
.172 .275 .585

So how much longer do we need to see this? Going on years for both. They both have obvious holes in their swings so there’s no mystery why they don’t perform. Send them down to AAA and if they don’t over perform there for an extended period…..its over move on

Mo is waiting to make sure all value is lost, to trade them for pennies on the dollar.

[MIDMOBIRDTWO]

Baker

Arenado getting there fast.

[Carp4Cy]

Walker
206 .270 .554

Gorman
.172 .275 .585

So how much longer do we need to see this? Going on years for both. They both have obvious holes in their swings so there’s no mystery why they don’t perform. Send them down to AAA and if they don’t over perform there for an extended period…..its over move on

all year. This is the year the kids play regardless of the results - remember?

[Goldfan]

Walker
206 .270 .554

Gorman
.172 .275 .585

So how much longer do we need to see this? Going on years for both. They both have obvious holes in their swings so there’s no mystery why they don’t perform. Send them down to AAA and if they don’t over perform there for an extended period…..its over move on

all year. This is the year the kids play regardless of the results - remember?

I’m not sure what hitting around .200 all year does for a kid but grind them into the ground

[60 year Cardinal fan]

I would like to see Walker get more time before writing him off; however, I have seen enough of Burleson, Baker, and Gorman.

[JohnnyMO]

Baker
0 HR
.201 .314 .327 .641

Burleson
0 HR
.256 .302 .289 .591

Agreed send them all down….I don’t put Baker and Burly in same class as Walker/Gorman. Although for some reason Burly is somehow a starter

Gorman and Walker are supposed to get “runway” this year. Let them play. Burleson and Baker don’t even have the potential to be impact starters in the big leagues. Gorman does. Let him play.

When is the drop off point? Can’t just give them forever. So if they don’t turn it around by end of season can we move on? Because they won’t.

For me it’s somewhere around closer to the trade deadline. If they aren’t producing by then you have to start making trades and moves that don’t plan on either of those for next year. Until then you let them play most every day and see what happens. Plenty of young players have been bad and then figured it out. If most of CT had it’s way Libby would be long gone by now.

[Shady]

Walker
206 .270 .554

Gorman
.172 .275 .585

So how much longer do we need to see this? Going on years for both. They both have obvious holes in their swings so there’s no mystery why they don’t perform. Send them down to AAA and if they don’t over perform there for an extended period…..its over move on

Is it time to see what Saggese can do in the lineup regularly? At least, split the ABs between Walker, Gorman and Saggese.

[craviduce]

Walker
206 .270 .554

Gorman
.172 .275 .585

So how much longer do we need to see this? Going on years for both. They both have obvious holes in their swings so there’s no mystery why they don’t perform. Send them down to AAA and if they don’t over perform there for an extended period…..its over move on

Is it time to see what Saggese can do in the lineup regularly? At least, split the ABs between Walker, Gorman and Saggese.

Regularly to Non-Regularly in under 20 words. You're a Non-Regular if you're splitting time with 2 other players.

Pardon the rest of us being confused by this one.

[BrockFloodMaris]

Baker
0 HR
.201 .314 .327 .641

Burleson
0 HR
.256 .302 .289 .591

Agreed send them all down….I don’t put Baker and Burly in same class as Walker/Gorman. Although for some reason Burly is somehow a starter

Gorman and Walker are supposed to get “runway” this year. Let them play. Burleson and Baker don’t even have the potential to be impact starters in the big leagues. Gorman does. Let him play.

When is the drop off point? Can’t just give them forever. So if they don’t turn it around by end of season can we move on? Because they won’t.

For me it’s somewhere around closer to the trade deadline. If they aren’t producing by then you have to start making trades and moves that don’t plan on either of those for next year. Until then you let them play most every day and see what happens. Plenty of young players have been bad and then figured it out. If most of CT had it’s way Libby would be long gone by now.

This roster is going to see lots of churn by the end of July. Nado and four pending free agent pitchers will probably be departing. Although it’s ugly to watch, keeping JW and NG in the lineup is probably needed to show Bloom what he’s got. I agree that Baker and Burly are trade throw-ins or Memphis bound. Saggese and Koperniak should get a good look in August and September.

[Shady]

Walker
206 .270 .554

Gorman
.172 .275 .585

So how much longer do we need to see this? Going on years for both. They both have obvious holes in their swings so there’s no mystery why they don’t perform. Send them down to AAA and if they don’t over perform there for an extended period…..its over move on

Is it time to see what Saggese can do in the lineup regularly? At least, split the ABs between Walker, Gorman and Saggese.

Regularly to Non-Regularly in under 20 words. You're a Non-Regular if you're splitting time with 2 other players.

Pardon the rest of us being confused by this one.

Any dummy should have understood the first sentence encouraged Saggese being a regular. If not, at least get considerable ABs splitting ABs with Walker and Gorman. Please grow up and stop looking for trouble.