UPDATE: DBacks are seeking closer, Helsley mentioned

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Re: UPDATE: DBacks are seeking closer, Helsley mentioned

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It's not our job to help Arizona. Who would be worthy to rip our steely fingers from Helsley's grasp...that AZ is willing to give up? I want ML ready.
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Re: UPDATE: DBacks are seeking closer, Helsley mentioned

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LOL...every time a reliever is mentioned, it will include Helsley. Hang on till the trading deadline... :roll:
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Re: UPDATE: DBacks are seeking closer, Helsley mentioned

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 May 2025 16:55 pm LOL...every time a reliever is mentioned, it will include Helsley. Hang on till the trading deadline... :roll:
First good opportunity to move him with a trade where the Cards FO likes the return, pull the trigger imo, cause you just never know when an injury or regression in production might happen, especially with a pitcher.
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Re: UPDATE: DBacks are seeking closer, Helsley mentioned

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JDW wrote: 02 May 2025 17:15 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 May 2025 16:55 pm LOL...every time a reliever is mentioned, it will include Helsley. Hang on till the trading deadline... :roll:
First good opportunity to move him with a trade where the Cards FO likes the return, pull the trigger imo, cause you just never know when an injury or regression in production might happen, especially with a pitcher.
Wake me up when that happens where an actual trade is being discussed and not some rumor by a writer
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Re: UPDATE: DBacks are seeking closer, Helsley mentioned

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I remember before the season started I mentioned they were a prime candidate for a deal for Helsley. And some [redacted] on this forum pooh poohed me because I didn't specifically name who I wanted in return. Funny how that changes as time marches on. And this before they lost guys to injury.

I suspect Lawlar is off the table but if they are willing to part with any two of Caldwell, Crisantes, Diaz, Walschmidt or Troy make the deal.
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Re: UPDATE: DBacks are seeking closer, Helsley mentioned

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 May 2025 17:20 pm
JDW wrote: 02 May 2025 17:15 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 May 2025 16:55 pm LOL...every time a reliever is mentioned, it will include Helsley. Hang on till the trading deadline... :roll:
First good opportunity to move him with a trade where the Cards FO likes the return, pull the trigger imo, cause you just never know when an injury or regression in production might happen, especially with a pitcher.
Wake me up when that happens where an actual trade is being discussed and not some rumor by a writer
Ha, you're probably right there.
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Re: UPDATE: DBacks are seeking closer, Helsley mentioned

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No need to wait until trading deadline for either party

You want Helsley pay the piper with top young pitching
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Re: UPDATE: DBacks are seeking closer, Helsley mentioned

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hmoss859 wrote: 02 May 2025 18:47 pm No need to wait until trading deadline for either party

You want Helsley pay the piper with top young pitching
+1 they’re desperate they know they can’t afford to fall too far back cards take advantage of it if they are smart but Mo is dumb and probably wait until the deadline after the d backs already make a move for a closer and helsleys value goes down even more
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Re: UPDATE: DBacks are seeking closer, Helsley mentioned

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 02 May 2025 19:01 pm
hmoss859 wrote: 02 May 2025 18:47 pm No need to wait until trading deadline for either party

You want Helsley pay the piper with top young pitching
+1 they’re desperate they know they can’t afford to fall too far back cards take advantage of it if they are smart but Mo is dumb and probably wait until the deadline after the d backs already make a move for a closer and helsleys value goes down even more
I think the greater problem is they are afraid to get worse in the short term via selling Helsley and Fedde or others. Ticket sales mean something to them. If it means better sales they will forego the long term satisfaction of a stacked farm.
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Re: UPDATE: DBacks are seeking closer, Helsley mentioned

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JDW wrote: 02 May 2025 17:15 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 May 2025 16:55 pm LOL...every time a reliever is mentioned, it will include Helsley. Hang on till the trading deadline... :roll:
First good opportunity to move him with a trade where the Cards FO likes the return, pull the trigger imo, cause you just never know when an injury or regression in production might happen, especially with a pitcher.
Amen JDW

You can tell they're using him sparingly afraid he will get injured before they can cash in.

DBacks could be in panic mode knowing they can't fall far behind the Dodgers, Padres and Giants.

Strike now when a true contender is hurting and cash in before Helsley get's hurt.

Doing it now, instead of mid Summer means the acquirer gets him for a longer part of the season which ups the return!
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