Question on the no goal last night

[Natl20]

I was at the game so obviously didn't have commentators.

The jets were offside by 3 feet, why we had to review that for them to see it is ridiculous but thats not my question

Why did Faulk still get a penalty? Once they determined offsides isn't the play essentially like it never happened? They even turn the clock back right to account for the time after offside occurred?

If the goal didn't count and never happened how the hell does he get a penalty?

[brianstlou2]

I was at the game so obviously didn't have commentators.

The jets were offside by 3 feet, why we had to review that for them to see it is ridiculous but thats not my question

Why did Faulk still get a penalty? Once they determined offsides isn't the play essentially like it never happened? They even turn the clock back right to account for the time after offside occurred?

If the goal didn't count and never happened how the hell does he get a penalty?

It’s in the rulebook… an infraction committed even if a play was deemed offsides is still called a penalty. That’s a terrible rule. What if Peg scored there. It would have come on something that should have never happened. I get that a penalty like a high stick or roughing should be called but not a hook on a player. There should be some common sense allowed on those plays.

[Natl20]

Thanks and that's the dumbest thing ever

So your saying half the play didn't count and never happened but the other half did lol? What idiot made that rule?

[LuvthaBlues]

Kerbs brought up a good point about this. So the erase the play, pit the time back on the clock and move the face off out of the zone…bug the penalty still stands. So according to the time keepers, the play never happened…but the penalty did…hmmm…

Very weird!

[12xu]

I wonder if that rule was written before coaches challenge and referees would check on video to see if a play was offsides. Example: if a ref calls offside but before the players stop somebody gets high sticked in the face - I could understand that being upheld. With replay now available it seems to me there should be a revision to the rule.

[blackinkbiz]

Wondering about this myself as I was in the car when it happened. Did Faulk's penalty occur after the offsides? If that's the case, the rule is completely idiotic, because Faulk wouldn't have had to take the penalty had the play been onsides--theoretically.

If it was before the offsides occurred, I guess I can see it still standing.

[brianstlou2]

Wondering about this myself as I was in the car when it happened. Did Faulk's penalty occur after the offsides? If that's the case, the rule is completely idiotic, because Faulk wouldn't have had to take the penalty had the play been onsides--theoretically.

If it was before the offsides occurred, I guess I can see it still standing.

It happened after the play. He hooked the guy barreling down on Binnington to try and keep him from scoring (on a play that should have been blown dead). I hope they consider some change to that rule bc it’s terrible. Yes maybe keep penalty like roughing or boarding but not one to prevent a goal on a rush that was offsides in the first place. It has to be a judgement call, either in Toronto or with the referee.

[TheJackBurton]

Wondering about this myself as I was in the car when it happened. Did Faulk's penalty occur after the offsides? If that's the case, the rule is completely idiotic, because Faulk wouldn't have had to take the penalty had the play been onsides--theoretically.

If it was before the offsides occurred, I guess I can see it still standing.

no it happened as Barron was driving to the net, so if the linesman blows the whistle and calls the off sides Faulk never has to engage with Barron therefore the penalty never occurs.

I can see a call on an after whistle scrum such as roughing or something, but that penalty never happens if the proper call is made.

I get these guys are human and they'll miss some calls, but I don't understand how they missed that one. The puck was outside of the zone a good 4-5 feet, Appleton was inside the line by about a good 3 feet. Not sure what the linesman was looking at.

[somni]

Completely dumb rule.
And in my opinion, it indirectly led to the Jets first goal. The Blues had 2 consecutive penalties to kill. In playoff hockey, one play or sequence leads to another.

[Blues Dave]

I agree with everyone. Dumb rule that needs to be adjusted for serious infractions.

[blackinkbiz]

Completely dumb rule.
And in my opinion, it indirectly led to the Jets first goal. The Blues had 2 consecutive penalties to kill. In playoff hockey, one play or sequence leads to another.

Oh don't even get me started on that! I didn't realize the hook occurred after the blown call, so now not only did they get a B-S first PP the bench minor that Schenn received because his brother skated in front of Blues bench and started antagonizing everyone and it led to Brayden being penalized ...

wow, just wow.