Should Oli have not started Libby.

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Should Oli have not started Libby.

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Good morning.

It was obvious to all it was gonna rain. When and how long were the mystery. They have official weather on site. Oli knew the score.

Would we have been better off pushing his start back and doing a pen game. That’s what we got anyway- 6 innings of pen. And a loss. And three innings of our stud, and he got a loss.

Who would have been a good candidate to start? For three ish innings. Then bring Libby in for six.

Just an idea on strategy. Did we do it right. Was there a right/wrong.

Thoughts.
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 May 2025 08:15 am Good morning.

It was obvious to all it was gonna rain. When and how long were the mystery. They have official weather on site. Oli knew the score.

Would we have been better off pushing his start back and doing a pen game. That’s what we got anyway- 6 innings of pen. And a loss. And three innings of our stud, and he got a loss.

Who would have been a good candidate to start? For three ish innings. Then bring Libby in for six.

Just an idea on strategy. Did we do it right. Was there a right/wrong.

Thoughts.
I think it was done right and went wrong. You got to put your best out there and hope you can beat the Reds AND the rain.
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Re: Should Oli have not started Libby.

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HorseTrader wrote: 02 May 2025 08:39 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 May 2025 08:15 am Good morning.

It was obvious to all it was gonna rain. When and how long were the mystery. They have official weather on site. Oli knew the score.

Would we have been better off pushing his start back and doing a pen game. That’s what we got anyway- 6 innings of pen. And a loss. And three innings of our stud, and he got a loss.

Who would have been a good candidate to start? For three ish innings. Then bring Libby in for six.

Just an idea on strategy. Did we do it right. Was there a right/wrong.

Thoughts.
I think it was done right and went wrong. You got to put your best out there and hope you can beat the Reds AND the rain.
That’s my point. I think it was clear we wouldn’t beat the rain. Now, maybe he thought it to be a short delay?
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I think you had to start Libby and play for 5 innings. Mother nature didn't help out.

Heck! The offense didn't help out either.
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c'mon BDog, that would've required a deep thinking Manager which obvious excludes Oli.

:mrgreen:
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Basil Shabazz wrote: 02 May 2025 08:46 am I think you had to start Libby and play for 5 innings. Mother nature didn't help out.

Heck! The offense didn't help out either.
I’m ahead in series 2-1 games. I’m taking a chance. I’m gonna pitch somebody like a McGreevy for three, hope it’s within a run, and finish with Libby.

Turned into a pen game anyway. So that’s now a given- oli knew a pen game loomed. How to play it.
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rockondlouie wrote: 02 May 2025 08:48 am c'mon BDog, that would've required a deep thinking Manager which obvious excludes Oli.

:mrgreen:
I know. I’m smoking the good stuff. Makes me think.
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 May 2025 08:50 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: 02 May 2025 08:46 am I think you had to start Libby and play for 5 innings. Mother nature didn't help out.

Heck! The offense didn't help out either.
I’m ahead in series 2-1 games. I’m taking a chance. I’m gonna pitch somebody like a McGreevy for three, hope it’s within a run, and finish with Libby.

Turned into a pen game anyway. So that’s now a given- oli knew a pen game loomed. How to play it.
I like how you think, Dawg. Seems like Oli tried to outrun the train and ended up getting slammed on the tracks. If it was a lost cause why not start the pen first? At the very least it would have caused people to think he does have a brain after all.
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Good thoughts Sike, or is it Psyche, ha?
Yeah, it was played wrong. Libby for the last 6 could have offered better odds. They rain was inevitable, and pretty obvious it was going to happen early.
Radar wasn't invented yesterday Oli.
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JDW wrote: 02 May 2025 09:12 am Good thoughts Sike, or is it Psyche, ha?
Yeah, it was played wrong. Libby for the last 6 could have offered better odds. They rain was inevitable, and pretty obvious it was going to happen early.
Radar wasn't invented yesterday Oli.
Yea it was as clear it was gonna rain, maybe he thought it would be a short delay? But he has the best weather people surrounding him, surely he got good advice.

There is no guarantee we make it thru three unscathed anyway, but the strategy would have been refreshing.
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Rojo Johnson wrote: 02 May 2025 09:07 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 May 2025 08:50 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: 02 May 2025 08:46 am I think you had to start Libby and play for 5 innings. Mother nature didn't help out.

Heck! The offense didn't help out either.
I’m ahead in series 2-1 games. I’m taking a chance. I’m gonna pitch somebody like a McGreevy for three, hope it’s within a run, and finish with Libby.

Turned into a pen game anyway. So that’s now a given- oli knew a pen game loomed. How to play it.
I like how you think, Dawg. Seems like Oli tried to outrun the train and ended up getting slammed on the tracks. If it was a lost cause why not start the pen first? At the very least it would have caused people to think he does have a brain after all.
Funny you said that. Tracks. Like being on a train trestle with a coming train. Gets on you quick.
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rockondlouie wrote: 02 May 2025 08:48 am c'mon BDog, that would've required a deep thinking Manager which obvious excludes Oli.

:mrgreen:
And a manager who could do a simple task on his iPad like looking at weather radar.

Not that it mattered because they only scored one run anyway.
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icon wrote: 02 May 2025 09:59 am
rockondlouie wrote: 02 May 2025 08:48 am c'mon BDog, that would've required a deep thinking Manager which obvious excludes Oli.

:mrgreen:
And a manager who could do a simple task on his iPad like looking at weather radar.

Not that it mattered because they only scored one run anyway.
Can't wait for C. Bloom to hire his Manager, BDWJr better not make him keep Oli just to save a few bucks since Oli has a 2026 contract.
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rockondlouie wrote: 02 May 2025 10:54 am
icon wrote: 02 May 2025 09:59 am
rockondlouie wrote: 02 May 2025 08:48 am c'mon BDog, that would've required a deep thinking Manager which obvious excludes Oli.

:mrgreen:
And a manager who could do a simple task on his iPad like looking at weather radar.

Not that it mattered because they only scored one run anyway.
Can't wait for C. Bloom to hire his Manager, BDWJr better not make him keep Oli just to save a few bucks since Oli has a 2026 contract.

He can have the Girsch treatment and be reassigned somewhere else for all I care. Whatever. Just as long as he isn’t in the dugout. And I’m pretty sure he’s not making much comparative to any other manager out there
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No.
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 May 2025 08:15 am Good morning.

It was obvious to all it was gonna rain. When and how long were the mystery. They have official weather on site. Oli knew the score.

Would we have been better off pushing his start back and doing a pen game. That’s what we got anyway- 6 innings of pen. And a loss. And three innings of our stud, and he got a loss.

Who would have been a good candidate to start? For three ish innings. Then bring Libby in for six.

Just an idea on strategy. Did we do it right. Was there a right/wrong.

Thoughts.
People like to play these fun games but there is no way you know for sure weather is hifting exactly after 3 innings. Heck sometimes predicted storms dont hit at all.
Weather forecasting is crapshoot that changes all the time. If he starts bullpen game and no rain comes til 5th inning or enough to stop game at all, then it ends up looking silly
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