Arenado should hit in five slot.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good Friday morning.

My old school ways said that the lead off hitter just gets on base; anyway. Noot works.

The second hitter must have the best bat on the team. Bunts slap hits, and hits. Minimal power. Fast. Rarely K’s. Few DP

Number three is semi fast, hits many extra base hits, around 20 home runs and 85 rbis. Few DP and few K’s. Think Clemente.

Number four is cleanup. Homeruns to 25-30, 100 rbis slow do’s and will strike out. We don’t have this guy.

Number five is a number three clone but less of everything. Slower. 15 homeruns 65 RBIs k’s a bit, more DP.

Nolan is a five. Need Herrera to hit fourth.

Thoughts.

[ramfandan]

I grew up with similar background as you. I learned that the 2nd guy should hit balls to the right side with runner on 2 nd to move him to 3rd etc.
The game had changed though. The big middle of the order bats of yesteryear are often early in order.
Example Mets…. Lindor, Soto, Alonso are often their first 3 batters.
The higher you bat in thr order the more likely you get an extra at bat late in a game. Those 1st and 2nd guys can get that 5 th plate appearance especially if your team bats in thr 9th inning.

Years back Soto would have been 3rd hitter not 2nd with Alonso cleanup 4th Nov 3rd

[IndCard75]

I’m not totally disagreeing with you but I wonder if Marmol is thinking Arenado 4 WC 5 to give Arenado some protection and possibly better pitches to hit. When Herrera returns from the DL then possibly WC 4 NA 5 and Herrera 6 to give NA that protection.
I think NA at this point is the weaker hitter of the 3 but if you put him in between those two maybe he gets better pitches to hit.
As far as the top 3 we don’t have the perfect hitters to put in those spots but I think Noot Winn Donovan is the best we have.

[sikeston bulldog2]

I’m not totally disagreeing with you but I wonder if Marmol is thinking Arenado 4 WC 5 to give Arenado some protection and possibly better pitches to hit. When Herrera returns from the DL then possibly WC 4 NA 5 and Herrera 6 to give NA that protection.
I think NA at this point is the weaker hitter of the 3 but if you put him in between those two maybe he gets better pitches to hit.
As far as the top 3 we don’t have the perfect hitters to put in those spots but I think Noot Winn Donovan is the best we have.

That’s a very good thought. And maybe the answer.

[sikeston bulldog2]

I grew up with similar background as you. I learned that the 2nd guy should hit balls to the right side with runner on 2 nd to move him to 3rd etc.
The game had changed though. The big middle of the order bats of yesteryear are often early in order.
Example Mets…. Lindor, Soto, Alonso are often their first 3 batters.
The higher you bat in thr order the more likely you get an extra at bat late in a game. Those 1st and 2nd guys can get that 5 th plate appearance especially if your team bats in thr 9th inning.

Years back Soto would have been 3rd hitter not 2nd with Alonso cleanup 4th Nov 3rd

Nice write. Soto would be today’s Roberto when he hit third.

[ramfandan]

I’m not totally disagreeing with you but I wonder if Marmol is thinking Arenado 4 WC 5 to give Arenado some protection and possibly better pitches to hit. When Herrera returns from the DL then possibly WC 4 NA 5 and Herrera 6 to give NA that protection.
I think NA at this point is the weaker hitter of the 3 but if you put him in between those two maybe he gets better pitches to hit.
As far as the top 3 we don’t have the perfect hitters to put in those spots but I think Noot Winn Donovan is the best we have.

So you are saying that Noot, Winn, Donovan (the best we have) is not quite what the Mets have with Lindor, Soto, and Alonso.?
Give me a second to compare each trio ..hmmm
Ok my second is up. Lol

[sikeston bulldog2]

I’m not totally disagreeing with you but I wonder if Marmol is thinking Arenado 4 WC 5 to give Arenado some protection and possibly better pitches to hit. When Herrera returns from the DL then possibly WC 4 NA 5 and Herrera 6 to give NA that protection.
I think NA at this point is the weaker hitter of the 3 but if you put him in between those two maybe he gets better pitches to hit.
As far as the top 3 we don’t have the perfect hitters to put in those spots but I think Noot Winn Donovan is the best we have.

So you are saying that Noot, Winn, Donovan (the best we have) is not quite what the Mets have with Lindor, Soto, and Alonso.?
Give me a second to compare each trio ..hmmm
Ok my second is up. Lol

Man. Not saying the Nets three are better, but they sure do play with a different style per position.

[IndCard75]

I’m not totally disagreeing with you but I wonder if Marmol is thinking Arenado 4 WC 5 to give Arenado some protection and possibly better pitches to hit. When Herrera returns from the DL then possibly WC 4 NA 5 and Herrera 6 to give NA that protection.
I think NA at this point is the weaker hitter of the 3 but if you put him in between those two maybe he gets better pitches to hit.
As far as the top 3 we don’t have the perfect hitters to put in those spots but I think Noot Winn Donovan is the best we have.

So you are saying that Noot, Winn, Donovan (the best we have) is not quite what the Mets have with Lindor, Soto, and Alonso.?
Give me a second to compare each trio ..hmmm
Ok my second is up. Lol

Oh no… we aren’t close to the Mets. I meant on the Cards those 3 are the best we have to hit 1 2 3.

[rockondlouie]

1 - 5

Noot LF
Winn SS vs RHSP/ Hererra DH vs LHSP (Winn goes back to 9th vs LHSP; Hererra hits 5th vs RHSP and NADO drops to 6th)
Donny 2B
WillyC 1B
NADO 3B

[sikeston bulldog2]

1 - 5

Noot LF
Winn SS vs RHSP/ Hererra DH vs LHSP (Winn goes back to 9th vs LHSP; Hererra hits 5th vs RHSP and NADO drops to 6th)
Donny 2B
WillyC 1B
NADO 3B

Ok.

[jbrach]

Good Friday morning.

My old school ways said that the lead off hitter just gets on base; anyway. Noot works.

The second hitter must have the best bat on the team. Bunts slap hits, and hits. Minimal power. Fast. Rarely K’s. Few DP

Number three is semi fast, hits many extra base hits, around 20 home runs and 85 rbis. Few DP and few K’s. Think Clemente.

Number four is cleanup. Homeruns to 25-30, 100 rbis slow do’s and will strike out. We don’t have this guy.

Number five is a number three clone but less of everything. Slower. 15 homeruns 65 RBIs k’s a bit, more DP.

Nolan is a five. Need Herrera to hit fourth.

Thoughts.

he needs to hit period, this obsession with where people hit is weird...

[Jatalk]

Problem is we don’t have a 4 on roster. I think they were hoping for Gorman but that won’t work.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Problem is we don’t have a 4 on roster. I think they were hoping for Gorman but that won’t work.

This is true. Now that Willy is hittin, maybe move him to four.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good Friday morning.

My old school ways said that the lead off hitter just gets on base; anyway. Noot works.

The second hitter must have the best bat on the team. Bunts slap hits, and hits. Minimal power. Fast. Rarely K’s. Few DP

Number three is semi fast, hits many extra base hits, around 20 home runs and 85 rbis. Few DP and few K’s. Think Clemente.

Number four is cleanup. Homeruns to 25-30, 100 rbis slow do’s and will strike out. We don’t have this guy.

Number five is a number three clone but less of everything. Slower. 15 homeruns 65 RBIs k’s a bit, more DP.

Nolan is a five. Need Herrera to hit fourth.

Thoughts.

he needs to hit period, this obsession with where people hit is weird...

How is that weird. It’s so engrained in the game, the lineup, that it even gets presented to start a game. I’d think talking about the hitting order would be one of the top constant topics.

[Futuregm2]

Over his last 84 PA, Nado is hitting .187/.274/.347. I’d definitely think about moving him lower in the order.

[Shady]

The Cardinals have not had a prototypical cleanup hitter type for the last couple seasons.