Saggese to Memphis, Jose Barrero called up

[CCard]

They might actually gel as a team. Saggese actually producing some, so Dewitt can't have that. Send him down and bring up a castoff they can drag the offense down with. We have to lose this year. It's on purpose. Next thing will be to send down another productive player and bring Fernandez back up after he gets a few outs against minor league hitters. LOL

[dirtkicker]

It's a horse dung move. Performance should always play over potential. I would have sent Walker down to get those 'everyday' at bats.
Then I would park Saggese at 2B and let him go. He deserves as much runway as Burleson, Gorman, and Walker.

[bccardsfan]

They might actually gel as a team. Saggese actually producing some, so Dewitt can't have that. Send him down and bring up a castoff they can drag the offense down with. We have to lose this year. It's on purpose. Next thing will be to send down another productive player and bring Fernandez back up after he gets a few outs against minor league hitters. LOL

If I were running the club, Baker would be down instead of Saggese. I would put Saggese in to pinch hit over Baker no matter what pitcher. But it will all sort out fairly quickly. Saggese will either be back up or there will be some sort of trade. We have a lot of 2B men and he is a victim of numbers. If Nado had been traded it would be easier to sort because Donnie or Gorman can play 3B. Not at the defensive level of Nado, but we are "resetting" anyway. Until Marmol is gone and Bloom running the ship, it will be a bit rudderless. There are some good pieces here for the longer term. Saggese will get his shot or be traded and it will happen within the year most likely.

[Strummer Jones]

I get it. I don't like that Sags has to be the one to take it on the chin, but I get it. I would say that Baker needs to be the one demoted, but as others have said, that's not a good role for Tommy. He'd be good at it, but that also might slow his growth.

I would like to hope that Saggese gets some time on the grass down in Memphis and turns into another Brendan Donovan. That's one way to get at-bats at the MLB level.

[RunSup]

Who is getting DFA'd off the 40-man to make room for Barrero?

[OldRed]

Sucks for him, but probably the right move. Couldn't trade Arenado, so where's he going to get the ABs? He's not going to get starts over Walker or Gorman right now. And when Herrera comes back soon, there's going to be an even bigger log jam. Yea, Baker has sucked, but he's here for one reason, and that is to take ABs off the bench against lefties. That's not a good role for Saggese.

And as good as he played, I'm not 100% convinced that there's nothing else he needs to prove before he's given a spot. Witness over the years however many Cardinals prospects we've seen come up hot and then fizzle out the next few years. So, like it or not, he's first on the list to be sent down.

He should take what he learned up here back down to Memphis, tear it up down there, and they'll be a spot for him either at the end of the year or next year.

All that said, I'm curious to see how Barrero does. It's nice to have a RHB that can play CF as well as anywhere on the IF. Will he hit? I have my doubts, but I don't think he has any options, so it's either produce or he goes somewhere else (maybe). Aren't the Cuban players supposedly a little slower to develop at the MLB level for some reason? Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll find whatever he's been missing the last few years.

It was a bad move. He earned a spot on the Major League roster. There is nothing else to prove. It's not the way to reward a player who has shown he belongs.

It's not about rewarding a player. It's about development. He cannot develop with the occasional spot start here in St. Louis.

Look, he's 23. Let him hit everyday in Memphis. Let him refine his fielding. Don't call him up until he can be handed an everyday job whether that's at second, third, DH, or somewhere else.

Patience is a virtue....

I thought this was the youth movement. He by far is the best fielding second baseman on the team as shown over the weekend. Not a good message to send to young players who have proven they can play in the Major Leagues. Just another example of poorly the front office runs things.

[ilcubuffs]

Very well kept secret by Marmot and MO Ran: Baker is on the roster for no other reason than to fill the critical "throw out the first pitch by fan" catcher position.

Friday - 0-3 1 RBi 1 SO

Saturday - 1-3 0 RBi 2 SO

1-6 1 RBi 3 SO. Thank the baseball gods Hoskins plays defense at 1B like it was just invented or Gorman's Saturday hit would have been a routine GO.

Again - why do they provide Gorman a MLB baseball bat? Hard to believe competent MLB decision makers have not YET figured out what type of player they have in Gorman.

[AZ_Cardsfan]

This seems like a good place to ask - who was it said Saggese was a JAG? Pretty sure it is a regular poster on this forum. Can't put my finger on it but......

BTW I'm not crowning him a star yet either. Jury is still out. But he looks like the potential to be a star is there.

[Strummer Jones]

This seems like a good place to ask - who was it said Saggese was a JAG? Pretty sure it is a regular poster on this forum. Can't put my finger on it but......

BTW I'm not crowning him a star yet either. Jury is still out. But he looks like the potential to be a star is there.

"Star" might be a bit much, but I feel like Saggese is definitely that guy who glues a team together. Like Tommy Edman, but with less speed and more average defense.

[Futuregm2]

This seems like a good place to ask - who was it said Saggese was a JAG? Pretty sure it is a regular poster on this forum. Can't put my finger on it but......

BTW I'm not crowning him a star yet either. Jury is still out. But he looks like the potential to be a star is there.

"Star" might be a bit much, but I feel like Saggese is definitely that guy who glues a team together. Like Tommy Edman, but with less speed and more average defense.

I have been thinking best case scenario for Saggese is a Michael Young type player.

[rockondlouie]

This seems like a good place to ask - who was it said Saggese was a JAG? Pretty sure it is a regular poster on this forum. Can't put my finger on it but......

BTW I'm not crowning him a star yet either. Jury is still out. But he looks like the potential to be a star is there.

Given how many of Mo's deals have been busts and last season (.204 .250 .306 .556) I did think he was JAG.

But new data = new opinion and if you do some legwork you'll see I've been in his corner all season.

Now I've got you in print too, I'll be sure to remind you in a few years if he's not a "star".

(But I hope you're right, I don't give a d a m n about being right if we get a stud player)

[Strummer Jones]

This seems like a good place to ask - who was it said Saggese was a JAG? Pretty sure it is a regular poster on this forum. Can't put my finger on it but......

BTW I'm not crowning him a star yet either. Jury is still out. But he looks like the potential to be a star is there.

"Star" might be a bit much, but I feel like Saggese is definitely that guy who glues a team together. Like Tommy Edman, but with less speed and more average defense.

I have been thinking best case scenario for Saggese is a Michael Young type player.

I could see it. And I would be very happy with that.

[AZ_Cardsfan]

This seems like a good place to ask - who was it said Saggese was a JAG? Pretty sure it is a regular poster on this forum. Can't put my finger on it but......

BTW I'm not crowning him a star yet either. Jury is still out. But he looks like the potential to be a star is there.

Given how many of Mo's deals have been busts and last season (.204 .250 .306 .556) I did think he was JAG.

But new data = new opinion and if you do some legwork you'll see I've been in his corner all season.

Now I've got you in print too, I'll be sure to remind you in a few years if he's not a "star".

(But I hope you're right, I don't give a d a m n about being right if we get a stud player)

LOL. Just a rib man. And hey, in print all you have is me saying "potential star". I don't make predictions on prospects. Far too many fall short or exceed projections. Baseball is weird like that.

[rockondlouie]

This seems like a good place to ask - who was it said Saggese was a JAG? Pretty sure it is a regular poster on this forum. Can't put my finger on it but......

BTW I'm not crowning him a star yet either. Jury is still out. But he looks like the potential to be a star is there.

Given how many of Mo's deals have been busts and last season (.204 .250 .306 .556) I did think he was JAG.

But new data = new opinion and if you do some legwork you'll see I've been in his corner all season.

Now I've got you in print too, I'll be sure to remind you in a few years if he's not a "star".

(But I hope you're right, I don't give a d a m n about being right if we get a stud player)

LOL. Just a rib man. And hey, in print all you have is me saying "potential star". I don't make predictions on prospects. Far too many fall short or exceed projections. Baseball is weird like that.

No sweat brother, I deserve it for saying the kid was JAG w/little data.

[bccardsfan]

This seems like a good place to ask - who was it said Saggese was a JAG? Pretty sure it is a regular poster on this forum. Can't put my finger on it but......

BTW I'm not crowning him a star yet either. Jury is still out. But he looks like the potential to be a star is there.

Given how many of Mo's deals have been busts and last season (.204 .250 .306 .556) I did think he was JAG.

But new data = new opinion and if you do some legwork you'll see I've been in his corner all season.

Now I've got you in print too, I'll be sure to remind you in a few years if he's not a "star".

(But I hope you're right, I don't give a d a m n about being right if we get a stud player)

LOL. Just a rib man. And hey, in print all you have is me saying "potential star". I don't make predictions on prospects. Far too many fall short or exceed projections. Baseball is weird like that.

No sweat brother, I deserve it for saying the kid was JAG w/little data.

Saggese can clearly hit. Heaven forbid we go with an old school metric, but the guy is a .300 hitter. Maybe 5-10 dingers. That is who he appears to be. A lineup with a few guys like that in it is a good thing. He appears to be adequate defensively, but doesn't look like he really has the arm strength for playing on the left side of the infield. Maybe he will work hard at throwing and improve a bit, but he hardly has a cannon arm. So he is another second baseman. We have a lot of them and JJ is coming. Something will give. Clearly Gorman can play 3B and so can Donnie. If they unload NA at the deadline or in the off season that creates room. But something will have to give. I like Saggese because I prefer guys who put the bat on the ball. You need a few of them in your lineup. We shall see what happens, but Saggese will have a decent career somewhere. No, he many never make an all star game, and most likely not the HOF, but he can be a valuable player in a lineup and have a decent career. We shall see if that is in StL. My 2 cents after watching him a bit.

[dirtkicker]

This seems like a good place to ask - who was it said Saggese was a JAG? Pretty sure it is a regular poster on this forum. Can't put my finger on it but......

BTW I'm not crowning him a star yet either. Jury is still out. But he looks like the potential to be a star is there.

Given how many of Mo's deals have been busts and last season (.204 .250 .306 .556) I did think he was JAG.

But new data = new opinion and if you do some legwork you'll see I've been in his corner all season.

Now I've got you in print too, I'll be sure to remind you in a few years if he's not a "star".

(But I hope you're right, I don't give a d a m n about being right if we get a stud player)

LOL. Just a rib man. And hey, in print all you have is me saying "potential star". I don't make predictions on prospects. Far too many fall short or exceed projections. Baseball is weird like that.

No sweat brother, I deserve it for saying the kid was JAG w/little data.

lol