Mikolas - keep doing well for trade bait!

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Re: Mikolas - keep doing well for trade bait!

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ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Apr 2025 13:00 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Apr 2025 10:46 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Apr 2025 10:13 am
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Apr 2025 08:45 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 23 Apr 2025 14:46 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 23 Apr 2025 13:13 pm
ClassicO wrote: 23 Apr 2025 13:12 pm It’s too much to expect him to do well for too long, but just well enough to get rid of him (eating some salary), for anything really.

Fedde ($7.5M), Miko ($17.7M), Nado ($27M net, but $22M and $15M net in ‘26-27)and Helsley ($8.5M) all need to be moved.

All but Nado are FAs next year and won’t be resigned in the new plan so trade deadline ought to be interesting.
100%

But sadly CO Mikolas has got that NTC and I doubt he'd waive it. :x
https://legacy.baseballprospectus.com/c ... cardinals/

If I read this correctly his no trade deal expired in 2023. It doesn't appear he currently has a no trade deal as part of his contract.
No he has a full NTC SM.


Katie Woo
@katiejwoo
I hear this frustration frequently and I understand this as well. But Mikolas has a full no-trade clause and Matz never really had much of a market.
Someone should ask Woo to explain why Cot's says the no trade clause wasn't included in the most recent contract.
I think the confusion comes from the original 2020-2023 contract extension S.M.

The new two year extension was added to the final year (2023) of that deal and the NTC came along w/it until it expires.

I asked A.I., it also listed Mikolas:

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The St. Louis Cardinals have four players with full no-trade clauses: Nolan Arenado, Sonny Gray, Willson Contreras, and Miles Mikolas. These clauses mean they have the final say on any trade involving them.
Please post the link.

Meanwhile

https://redbirdrants.com/the-cardinals- ... de-embargo
With Spring Training almost a month away, the Cardinals only have themselves to blame for a lack of trades, as their contract negotiations with previous free agents have made them victims of their own trade embargo. Three Cardinals starters have full no-trade clauses in their contracts, meaning that they can reject any accepted trades in order to stay with the team.
Hopefully this will convince you:

Arenado, Contreras, Gray and Mikolas are still under contract and have full no-trade clauses in their deals.

From JOHN DENTON
Nov. 4, 2024

https://www.mlb.com/cardinals/news/card ... re-in-2025
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Re: Mikolas - keep doing well for trade bait!

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rockondlouie wrote: 24 Apr 2025 13:07 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Apr 2025 13:00 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Apr 2025 10:46 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Apr 2025 10:13 am
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Apr 2025 08:45 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 23 Apr 2025 14:46 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 23 Apr 2025 13:13 pm
ClassicO wrote: 23 Apr 2025 13:12 pm It’s too much to expect him to do well for too long, but just well enough to get rid of him (eating some salary), for anything really.

Fedde ($7.5M), Miko ($17.7M), Nado ($27M net, but $22M and $15M net in ‘26-27)and Helsley ($8.5M) all need to be moved.

All but Nado are FAs next year and won’t be resigned in the new plan so trade deadline ought to be interesting.
100%

But sadly CO Mikolas has got that NTC and I doubt he'd waive it. :x
https://legacy.baseballprospectus.com/c ... cardinals/

If I read this correctly his no trade deal expired in 2023. It doesn't appear he currently has a no trade deal as part of his contract.
No he has a full NTC SM.


Katie Woo
@katiejwoo
I hear this frustration frequently and I understand this as well. But Mikolas has a full no-trade clause and Matz never really had much of a market.
Someone should ask Woo to explain why Cot's says the no trade clause wasn't included in the most recent contract.
I think the confusion comes from the original 2020-2023 contract extension S.M.

The new two year extension was added to the final year (2023) of that deal and the NTC came along w/it until it expires.

I asked A.I., it also listed Mikolas:

Search Labs | AI Overview
Learn more
The St. Louis Cardinals have four players with full no-trade clauses: Nolan Arenado, Sonny Gray, Willson Contreras, and Miles Mikolas. These clauses mean they have the final say on any trade involving them.
Please post the link.

Meanwhile

https://redbirdrants.com/the-cardinals- ... de-embargo
With Spring Training almost a month away, the Cardinals only have themselves to blame for a lack of trades, as their contract negotiations with previous free agents have made them victims of their own trade embargo. Three Cardinals starters have full no-trade clauses in their contracts, meaning that they can reject any accepted trades in order to stay with the team.
Hopefully this will convince you:

Arenado, Contreras, Gray and Mikolas are still under contract and have full no-trade clauses in their deals.

From JOHN DENTON
Nov. 4, 2024

https://www.mlb.com/cardinals/news/card ... re-in-2025
I'm convinced the author was too lazy to look up Mikolas' new contract before he posted false information.
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Re: Mikolas - keep doing well for trade bait!

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ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Apr 2025 13:31 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Apr 2025 13:07 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Apr 2025 13:00 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Apr 2025 10:46 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Apr 2025 10:13 am
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Apr 2025 08:45 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 23 Apr 2025 14:46 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 23 Apr 2025 13:13 pm
ClassicO wrote: 23 Apr 2025 13:12 pm It’s too much to expect him to do well for too long, but just well enough to get rid of him (eating some salary), for anything really.

Fedde ($7.5M), Miko ($17.7M), Nado ($27M net, but $22M and $15M net in ‘26-27)and Helsley ($8.5M) all need to be moved.

All but Nado are FAs next year and won’t be resigned in the new plan so trade deadline ought to be interesting.
100%

But sadly CO Mikolas has got that NTC and I doubt he'd waive it. :x
https://legacy.baseballprospectus.com/c ... cardinals/

If I read this correctly his no trade deal expired in 2023. It doesn't appear he currently has a no trade deal as part of his contract.
No he has a full NTC SM.


Katie Woo
@katiejwoo
I hear this frustration frequently and I understand this as well. But Mikolas has a full no-trade clause and Matz never really had much of a market.
Someone should ask Woo to explain why Cot's says the no trade clause wasn't included in the most recent contract.
I think the confusion comes from the original 2020-2023 contract extension S.M.

The new two year extension was added to the final year (2023) of that deal and the NTC came along w/it until it expires.

I asked A.I., it also listed Mikolas:

Search Labs | AI Overview
Learn more
The St. Louis Cardinals have four players with full no-trade clauses: Nolan Arenado, Sonny Gray, Willson Contreras, and Miles Mikolas. These clauses mean they have the final say on any trade involving them.
Please post the link.

Meanwhile

https://redbirdrants.com/the-cardinals- ... de-embargo
With Spring Training almost a month away, the Cardinals only have themselves to blame for a lack of trades, as their contract negotiations with previous free agents have made them victims of their own trade embargo. Three Cardinals starters have full no-trade clauses in their contracts, meaning that they can reject any accepted trades in order to stay with the team.
Hopefully this will convince you:

Arenado, Contreras, Gray and Mikolas are still under contract and have full no-trade clauses in their deals.

From JOHN DENTON
Nov. 4, 2024

https://www.mlb.com/cardinals/news/card ... re-in-2025
I'm convinced the author was too lazy to look up Mikolas' new contract before he posted false information.
You do realize that author is the Cardinals MLB.com beat writer?

Mikolas has a full NTC, he's going nowhere unless he waives it.
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Re: Mikolas - keep doing well for trade bait!

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rockondlouie wrote: 24 Apr 2025 13:50 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Apr 2025 13:31 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Apr 2025 13:07 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Apr 2025 13:00 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Apr 2025 10:46 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Apr 2025 10:13 am
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Apr 2025 08:45 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 23 Apr 2025 14:46 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 23 Apr 2025 13:13 pm
ClassicO wrote: 23 Apr 2025 13:12 pm It’s too much to expect him to do well for too long, but just well enough to get rid of him (eating some salary), for anything really.

Fedde ($7.5M), Miko ($17.7M), Nado ($27M net, but $22M and $15M net in ‘26-27)and Helsley ($8.5M) all need to be moved.

All but Nado are FAs next year and won’t be resigned in the new plan so trade deadline ought to be interesting.
100%

But sadly CO Mikolas has got that NTC and I doubt he'd waive it. :x
https://legacy.baseballprospectus.com/c ... cardinals/

If I read this correctly his no trade deal expired in 2023. It doesn't appear he currently has a no trade deal as part of his contract.
No he has a full NTC SM.


Katie Woo
@katiejwoo
I hear this frustration frequently and I understand this as well. But Mikolas has a full no-trade clause and Matz never really had much of a market.
Someone should ask Woo to explain why Cot's says the no trade clause wasn't included in the most recent contract.
I think the confusion comes from the original 2020-2023 contract extension S.M.

The new two year extension was added to the final year (2023) of that deal and the NTC came along w/it until it expires.

I asked A.I., it also listed Mikolas:

Search Labs | AI Overview
Learn more
The St. Louis Cardinals have four players with full no-trade clauses: Nolan Arenado, Sonny Gray, Willson Contreras, and Miles Mikolas. These clauses mean they have the final say on any trade involving them.
Please post the link.

Meanwhile

https://redbirdrants.com/the-cardinals- ... de-embargo
With Spring Training almost a month away, the Cardinals only have themselves to blame for a lack of trades, as their contract negotiations with previous free agents have made them victims of their own trade embargo. Three Cardinals starters have full no-trade clauses in their contracts, meaning that they can reject any accepted trades in order to stay with the team.
Hopefully this will convince you:

Arenado, Contreras, Gray and Mikolas are still under contract and have full no-trade clauses in their deals.

From JOHN DENTON
Nov. 4, 2024

https://www.mlb.com/cardinals/news/card ... re-in-2025
I'm convinced the author was too lazy to look up Mikolas' new contract before he posted false information.
You do realize that author is the Cardinals MLB.com beat writer?

Mikolas has a full NTC, he's going nowhere unless he waives it.
I'll agree with you. Full no trade. Even if he waived it they won't get anything of value for him unless another team has a front office as incompetent as this one.
rockondlouie
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Re: Mikolas - keep doing well for trade bait!

Post by rockondlouie »

ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Apr 2025 14:18 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Apr 2025 13:50 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Apr 2025 13:31 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Apr 2025 13:07 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Apr 2025 13:00 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Apr 2025 10:46 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Apr 2025 10:13 am
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Apr 2025 08:45 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 23 Apr 2025 14:46 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 23 Apr 2025 13:13 pm
ClassicO wrote: 23 Apr 2025 13:12 pm It’s too much to expect him to do well for too long, but just well enough to get rid of him (eating some salary), for anything really.

Fedde ($7.5M), Miko ($17.7M), Nado ($27M net, but $22M and $15M net in ‘26-27)and Helsley ($8.5M) all need to be moved.

All but Nado are FAs next year and won’t be resigned in the new plan so trade deadline ought to be interesting.
100%

But sadly CO Mikolas has got that NTC and I doubt he'd waive it. :x
https://legacy.baseballprospectus.com/c ... cardinals/

If I read this correctly his no trade deal expired in 2023. It doesn't appear he currently has a no trade deal as part of his contract.
No he has a full NTC SM.


Katie Woo
@katiejwoo
I hear this frustration frequently and I understand this as well. But Mikolas has a full no-trade clause and Matz never really had much of a market.
Someone should ask Woo to explain why Cot's says the no trade clause wasn't included in the most recent contract.
I think the confusion comes from the original 2020-2023 contract extension S.M.

The new two year extension was added to the final year (2023) of that deal and the NTC came along w/it until it expires.

I asked A.I., it also listed Mikolas:

Search Labs | AI Overview
Learn more
The St. Louis Cardinals have four players with full no-trade clauses: Nolan Arenado, Sonny Gray, Willson Contreras, and Miles Mikolas. These clauses mean they have the final say on any trade involving them.
Please post the link.

Meanwhile

https://redbirdrants.com/the-cardinals- ... de-embargo
With Spring Training almost a month away, the Cardinals only have themselves to blame for a lack of trades, as their contract negotiations with previous free agents have made them victims of their own trade embargo. Three Cardinals starters have full no-trade clauses in their contracts, meaning that they can reject any accepted trades in order to stay with the team.
Hopefully this will convince you:

Arenado, Contreras, Gray and Mikolas are still under contract and have full no-trade clauses in their deals.

From JOHN DENTON
Nov. 4, 2024

https://www.mlb.com/cardinals/news/card ... re-in-2025
I'm convinced the author was too lazy to look up Mikolas' new contract before he posted false information.
You do realize that author is the Cardinals MLB.com beat writer?

Mikolas has a full NTC, he's going nowhere unless he waives it.
I'll agree with you. Full no trade. Even if he waived it they won't get anything of value for him unless another team has a front office as incompetent as this one.
That's for sure :wink:
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