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Re: Padres Schildty

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renostl wrote: 21 Apr 2025 17:33 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 14:21 pm
renostl wrote: 21 Apr 2025 14:16 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 13:59 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 21 Apr 2025 13:44 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 13:14 pm Shildt was more responsible than anybody for the lack of talent in the Cardinals system.
How so?
Minor leagues
Shildt started his Major League Baseball career as an associate scout with the league for three seasons.[1] He moved on to the St. Louis Cardinals organization, working as the area scout for North Carolina, South Carolina and Virginia.[1] On a recommendation from future Cardinals general manager John Mozeliak, Shildt began his minor league coaching career as a part-time coach. Shildt was sent to the Cardinals' Single-A affiliate in the New York–Penn League. He was a part-time coach during 2004 and 2005 while continuing his scouting duties.[1] He was promoted to a full-time coaching position in 2006, and kept coaching with the single A affiliate until the 2007 season.[1] In 2008, Shildt coordinated the Cardinals' minor league spring training workout camp.[3] Afterwards he became the hitting coach for the Johnson City Cardinals for the 2008 season.[3]

Shildt was promoted to manage Johnson City in 2009, where he finished with a 37–30 record.[4] In his second season, Johnson City posted a 42–24 win–loss record, and after defeating its two playoff opponents, won the Appalachian League championship.[5] For his effort, Shildt was named St. Louis Cardinals Minor League Manager of the Year by Scout.com.[5] He was also named the Appalachian League Manager of the Year.[5] Among the players he helped improve during the season include Appalachian League's Pitcher of the Year Ryan Copeland, and batting average champion Phil Cerreto.[5] After Johnson City's season ended, Shildt was invited to spend some time on the St. Louis Cardinals roster to gain experience.[5] After the season, Shildt was awarded the Appalachian League Manager of the Year award, and the George Kissell Award for his "excellence in player development" by the St. Louis Cardinals organization.[6]


Johnson City repeated as league champions in 2011 under Shildt.[7] It was the first time that Johnson City clinched two consecutive league championships since 1975–1976.[7] Shildt managed the Springfield Cardinals of the Class AA Texas League for three seasons. Shildt guided Springfield to its first Texas League championship before being recognized as Baseball America's Team of the Year in 2012. He then spent two seasons as the manager for the Memphis Redbirds of the Class AAA Pacific Coast League.[citation needed]

Then had the audacity to go on the radio and complain about the lack of talent on the Cardinals.
I am assuming your issue is that an organization that gave him his
opportunity was publicly criticized?

Could and should have been handled differently.

Not sure how this makes "Shildt was more responsible than anybody for the lack of talent in the Cardinals system"
He spent a dozen years scouting and developing players in the Cardinals system and then complained about the lack of talent. He deserved to be fired and developed none of the talent he now coaches in San Diego.
Seems like different time frames to me. He and TLR did ok with his time as a scout then jump to 2021 he says the
system is bare. I wouldn't hold the fact he developed none of the talent in SD. His current job is to go toe to toe with a team
that out spends his by over $100 million. He's doing that both seasons he's been there better than his predecessor so far.

All good, seems MO could have talked with Shildt about the improper process versus a downgrade in manager for the type team
he was putting together.
Just pointing out why Shildt was fired in St Louis for those upset about it. I'm no Mozeliak fan but he had no choice.
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