Dimwit & Mo master plan

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ScotchMIrish
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Re: Dimwit & Mo master plan

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Cranny wrote: 21 Apr 2025 10:52 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 10:48 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:36 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:26 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:23 am
Dazepster wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:15 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:12 am
swatski wrote: 20 Apr 2025 17:23 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Apr 2025 17:15 pm Invest money in the developmental system by buying expensive, sophisticated equipment and hiring guys who know how train with it. Stock the roster with mainly young, talented, properly prepared players, and fill in where necessary via trades and FA signings.
Maybe they are right on schedule with that expensive equipment thingy. The rest of the plan we will begin to see in 5 years. Challenge will be to stay ahead of Pirates as they move forward.
What exactly is the "expensive equipment thingy"?
Spin. [nonsense]. Propaganda.

Nothing more, nothing less.
No spin at all. There’s very good equipment on the market now that breaks down the stance, swing plane, weight shift, shoulder turn etc. For pitchers
it’s the grip, arm angle, spin rate developed with various pitches, etc. The Cardinals were slow to get this equipment, but purchased it during the off season at the request of Bloom and Cerfolio.
I'm skeptical when an nerd who can't play the game does something like this.
Who’s that, Scotch?
Bloom and Cerfolio.
Check their track records with the minor league systems in Tampa, Boston, and Cleveland.
It's long overdue to bring in people from outside the Cardinals system. That's obvious. I remember Willie McGee telling a story about when he first arrived in St Louis a Cardinals coach approached him and wanted to change his swing. Dave Ricketts was nearby and told that other coach to back off - "You don't know him. Leave him alone." Willie said he was very thankful Ricketts did that because spent a long time refining his swing. Pete Rose in a video said the same thing. What you never do is change your swing. "Your swing is what got you here". Stan Musial was asked how he hit for such a high average and he said he took the outside pitch to the opposite field. Forcing him into doing what a machine told him to do would have ruined him.


I suppose the key is to identify the players who a machine will help and those who should be left alone.
Cranny
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Re: Dimwit & Mo master plan

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ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 13:04 pm
Cranny wrote: 21 Apr 2025 10:52 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 10:48 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:36 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:26 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:23 am
Dazepster wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:15 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:12 am
swatski wrote: 20 Apr 2025 17:23 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Apr 2025 17:15 pm Invest money in the developmental system by buying expensive, sophisticated equipment and hiring guys who know how train with it. Stock the roster with mainly young, talented, properly prepared players, and fill in where necessary via trades and FA signings.
Maybe they are right on schedule with that expensive equipment thingy. The rest of the plan we will begin to see in 5 years. Challenge will be to stay ahead of Pirates as they move forward.
What exactly is the "expensive equipment thingy"?
Spin. [nonsense]. Propaganda.

Nothing more, nothing less.
No spin at all. There’s very good equipment on the market now that breaks down the stance, swing plane, weight shift, shoulder turn etc. For pitchers
it’s the grip, arm angle, spin rate developed with various pitches, etc. The Cardinals were slow to get this equipment, but purchased it during the off season at the request of Bloom and Cerfolio.
I'm skeptical when an nerd who can't play the game does something like this.
Who’s that, Scotch?
Bloom and Cerfolio.
Check their track records with the minor league systems in Tampa, Boston, and Cleveland.
It's long overdue to bring in people from outside the Cardinals system. That's obvious. I remember Willie McGee telling a story about when he first arrived in St Louis a Cardinals coach approached him and wanted to change his swing. Dave Ricketts was nearby and told that other coach to back off - "You don't know him. Leave him alone." Willie said he was very thankful Ricketts did that because spent a long time refining his swing. Pete Rose in a video said the same thing. What you never do is change your swing. "Your swing is what got you here". Stan Musial was asked how he hit for such a high average and he said he took the outside pitch to the opposite field. Forcing him into doing what a machine told him to do would have ruined him.


I suppose the key is to identify the players who a machine will help and those who should be left alone.
Understand about Willie, Pete, and Stash. Unfortunately, it’s a different world now.
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Re: Dimwit & Mo master plan

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ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 13:04 pm
Cranny wrote: 21 Apr 2025 10:52 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 10:48 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:36 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:26 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:23 am
Dazepster wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:15 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:12 am
swatski wrote: 20 Apr 2025 17:23 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Apr 2025 17:15 pm Invest money in the developmental system by buying expensive, sophisticated equipment and hiring guys who know how train with it. Stock the roster with mainly young, talented, properly prepared players, and fill in where necessary via trades and FA signings.
Maybe they are right on schedule with that expensive equipment thingy. The rest of the plan we will begin to see in 5 years. Challenge will be to stay ahead of Pirates as they move forward.
What exactly is the "expensive equipment thingy"?
Spin. [nonsense]. Propaganda.

Nothing more, nothing less.
No spin at all. There’s very good equipment on the market now that breaks down the stance, swing plane, weight shift, shoulder turn etc. For pitchers
it’s the grip, arm angle, spin rate developed with various pitches, etc. The Cardinals were slow to get this equipment, but purchased it during the off season at the request of Bloom and Cerfolio.
I'm skeptical when an nerd who can't play the game does something like this.
Who’s that, Scotch?
Bloom and Cerfolio.
Check their track records with the minor league systems in Tampa, Boston, and Cleveland.
It's long overdue to bring in people from outside the Cardinals system. That's obvious. I remember Willie McGee telling a story about when he first arrived in St Louis a Cardinals coach approached him and wanted to change his swing. Dave Ricketts was nearby and told that other coach to back off - "You don't know him. Leave him alone." Willie said he was very thankful Ricketts did that because spent a long time refining his swing. Pete Rose in a video said the same thing. What you never do is change your swing. "Your swing is what got you here". Stan Musial was asked how he hit for such a high average and he said he took the outside pitch to the opposite field. Forcing him into doing what a machine told him to do would have ruined him.


I suppose the key is to identify the players who a machine will help and those who should be left alone.
I think it boils down to bat speed. Once fastball speeds are 5 mph faster and even more players slow down after early 30s.
ScotchMIrish
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Re: Dimwit & Mo master plan

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Cranny wrote: 21 Apr 2025 15:53 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 13:04 pm
Cranny wrote: 21 Apr 2025 10:52 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 10:48 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:36 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:26 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:23 am
Dazepster wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:15 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:12 am
swatski wrote: 20 Apr 2025 17:23 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Apr 2025 17:15 pm Invest money in the developmental system by buying expensive, sophisticated equipment and hiring guys who know how train with it. Stock the roster with mainly young, talented, properly prepared players, and fill in where necessary via trades and FA signings.
Maybe they are right on schedule with that expensive equipment thingy. The rest of the plan we will begin to see in 5 years. Challenge will be to stay ahead of Pirates as they move forward.
What exactly is the "expensive equipment thingy"?
Spin. [nonsense]. Propaganda.

Nothing more, nothing less.
No spin at all. There’s very good equipment on the market now that breaks down the stance, swing plane, weight shift, shoulder turn etc. For pitchers
it’s the grip, arm angle, spin rate developed with various pitches, etc. The Cardinals were slow to get this equipment, but purchased it during the off season at the request of Bloom and Cerfolio.
I'm skeptical when an nerd who can't play the game does something like this.
Who’s that, Scotch?
Bloom and Cerfolio.
Check their track records with the minor league systems in Tampa, Boston, and Cleveland.
It's long overdue to bring in people from outside the Cardinals system. That's obvious. I remember Willie McGee telling a story about when he first arrived in St Louis a Cardinals coach approached him and wanted to change his swing. Dave Ricketts was nearby and told that other coach to back off - "You don't know him. Leave him alone." Willie said he was very thankful Ricketts did that because spent a long time refining his swing. Pete Rose in a video said the same thing. What you never do is change your swing. "Your swing is what got you here". Stan Musial was asked how he hit for such a high average and he said he took the outside pitch to the opposite field. Forcing him into doing what a machine told him to do would have ruined him.


I suppose the key is to identify the players who a machine will help and those who should be left alone.
Understand about Willie, Pete, and Stash. Unfortunately, it’s a different world now.
They would be better today.
Cranny
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Re: Dimwit & Mo master plan

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ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 16:40 pm
Cranny wrote: 21 Apr 2025 15:53 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 13:04 pm
Cranny wrote: 21 Apr 2025 10:52 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 10:48 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:36 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:26 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:23 am
Dazepster wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:15 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:12 am
swatski wrote: 20 Apr 2025 17:23 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Apr 2025 17:15 pm Invest money in the developmental system by buying expensive, sophisticated equipment and hiring guys who know how train with it. Stock the roster with mainly young, talented, properly prepared players, and fill in where necessary via trades and FA signings.
Maybe they are right on schedule with that expensive equipment thingy. The rest of the plan we will begin to see in 5 years. Challenge will be to stay ahead of Pirates as they move forward.
What exactly is the "expensive equipment thingy"?
Spin. [nonsense]. Propaganda.

Nothing more, nothing less.
No spin at all. There’s very good equipment on the market now that breaks down the stance, swing plane, weight shift, shoulder turn etc. For pitchers
it’s the grip, arm angle, spin rate developed with various pitches, etc. The Cardinals were slow to get this equipment, but purchased it during the off season at the request of Bloom and Cerfolio.
I'm skeptical when an nerd who can't play the game does something like this.
Who’s that, Scotch?
Bloom and Cerfolio.
Check their track records with the minor league systems in Tampa, Boston, and Cleveland.
It's long overdue to bring in people from outside the Cardinals system. That's obvious. I remember Willie McGee telling a story about when he first arrived in St Louis a Cardinals coach approached him and wanted to change his swing. Dave Ricketts was nearby and told that other coach to back off - "You don't know him. Leave him alone." Willie said he was very thankful Ricketts did that because spent a long time refining his swing. Pete Rose in a video said the same thing. What you never do is change your swing. "Your swing is what got you here". Stan Musial was asked how he hit for such a high average and he said he took the outside pitch to the opposite field. Forcing him into doing what a machine told him to do would have ruined him.


I suppose the key is to identify the players who a machine will help and those who should be left alone.
Understand about Willie, Pete, and Stash. Unfortunately, it’s a different world now.
They would be better today.
LOL. Interesting thought.
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Re: Dimwit & Mo master plan

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thetank2 wrote: 21 Apr 2025 16:25 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 13:04 pm
Cranny wrote: 21 Apr 2025 10:52 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 10:48 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:36 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:26 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:23 am
Dazepster wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:15 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 21 Apr 2025 09:12 am
swatski wrote: 20 Apr 2025 17:23 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Apr 2025 17:15 pm Invest money in the developmental system by buying expensive, sophisticated equipment and hiring guys who know how train with it. Stock the roster with mainly young, talented, properly prepared players, and fill in where necessary via trades and FA signings.
Maybe they are right on schedule with that expensive equipment thingy. The rest of the plan we will begin to see in 5 years. Challenge will be to stay ahead of Pirates as they move forward.
What exactly is the "expensive equipment thingy"?
Spin. [nonsense]. Propaganda.

Nothing more, nothing less.
No spin at all. There’s very good equipment on the market now that breaks down the stance, swing plane, weight shift, shoulder turn etc. For pitchers
it’s the grip, arm angle, spin rate developed with various pitches, etc. The Cardinals were slow to get this equipment, but purchased it during the off season at the request of Bloom and Cerfolio.
I'm skeptical when an nerd who can't play the game does something like this.
Who’s that, Scotch?
Bloom and Cerfolio.
Check their track records with the minor league systems in Tampa, Boston, and Cleveland.
It's long overdue to bring in people from outside the Cardinals system. That's obvious. I remember Willie McGee telling a story about when he first arrived in St Louis a Cardinals coach approached him and wanted to change his swing. Dave Ricketts was nearby and told that other coach to back off - "You don't know him. Leave him alone." Willie said he was very thankful Ricketts did that because spent a long time refining his swing. Pete Rose in a video said the same thing. What you never do is change your swing. "Your swing is what got you here". Stan Musial was asked how he hit for such a high average and he said he took the outside pitch to the opposite field. Forcing him into doing what a machine told him to do would have ruined him.


I suppose the key is to identify the players who a machine will help and those who should be left alone.
I think it boils down to bat speed. Once fastball speeds are 5 mph faster and even more players slow down after early 30s.
Is it difficult signing in to two accounts that agree with one another?
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