Lets face it this team is a joke - who is most to blame?

[Cranny]

I've been screaming BILL DEWITT, JR is the real problem now for going on four years!

Dewitt is the one who kept Mo on well past his expiration date

Dewitt is the one who passed on T. Francona when TLR retired

Dewitt is the one who okayed hiring three clowns as Managers

Dewitt is the one who has okayed and signed the checks for Mo's idiotic FA signings and extensions

The problem is BDWJR

He could've put an end to Mo's reign of ineptitude long ago and didn't, content to let him do his thing as long as he drew 3+M.

Well the Rolls Royce has been driven over the cliff.

Unless C. Bloom can find the next Whitey or TLR to turn this sinking ship around, your $2.5B asset is going to start shrinking.

2018 - 88 wins
2019 - 91 wins
2020 - Covid year
2021 - 90 wins
2022 - 93 wins
2023 - 71 wins
2024 - 83 wins

Yes, the last 2 seasons have been short of the mark.

LIVING off past success is over cranny, that slight of hands isn't working any more and the fan base has spoken by staying away from Busch Stadium.

2018 - 2022 they rode Waino and Yadi (even Albert on his return).

Once they were all gone, the team collapsed.

Mo and Oli should've both been fired after 2023.

Dewitt is the problem and you know it, he could've stepped in long before this collapse and fired Mo & Oli.

He failed to act, he's now paying the price.

Enjoy those 15,000-20,000 crowds if he keep sleeping on the job.

Expenses will be kept in line with revenues, until the better development kicks in and crowds increase. Then there will be more money to spend.

[rockondlouie]

I've been screaming BILL DEWITT, JR is the real problem now for going on four years!

Dewitt is the one who kept Mo on well past his expiration date

Dewitt is the one who passed on T. Francona when TLR retired

Dewitt is the one who okayed hiring three clowns as Managers

Dewitt is the one who has okayed and signed the checks for Mo's idiotic FA signings and extensions

The problem is BDWJR

He could've put an end to Mo's reign of ineptitude long ago and didn't, content to let him do his thing as long as he drew 3+M.

Well the Rolls Royce has been driven over the cliff.

Unless C. Bloom can find the next Whitey or TLR to turn this sinking ship around, your $2.5B asset is going to start shrinking.

2018 - 88 wins
2019 - 91 wins
2020 - Covid year
2021 - 90 wins
2022 - 93 wins
2023 - 71 wins
2024 - 83 wins

Yes, the last 2 seasons have been short of the mark.

LIVING off past success is over cranny, that slight of hands isn't working any more and the fan base has spoken by staying away from Busch Stadium.

2018 - 2022 they rode Waino and Yadi (even Albert on his return).

Once they were all gone, the team collapsed.

Mo and Oli should've both been fired after 2023.

Dewitt is the problem and you know it, he could've stepped in long before this collapse and fired Mo & Oli.

He failed to act, he's now paying the price.

Enjoy those 15,000-20,000 crowds if he keep sleeping on the job.

Expenses will be kept in line with revenues, until the better development kicks in and crowds increase. Then there will be more money to spend.

"Remain calm...........all is well"!

No cranny, it's not.

BDWJr will have to increase payroll back to the $180M level or he'll never see 3+M again, may not even see 2.5M.

If he's not willing to do so, then it's time to sell before he turns the Cardinals into the Pirates.

[scoutyjones2]

Yep absolutely worthless....used to get pumped to watch the birds....dvr every game I couldn't watch...used to get a little upset when they would lose...now I expect them to lose when I do watch a game....agree they have ruined this franchise...now I get teased by my buddies who are cub fans....man times have changed...

Why? What have the baby bears done for you to teased?

[Cranny]

I've been screaming BILL DEWITT, JR is the real problem now for going on four years!

Dewitt is the one who kept Mo on well past his expiration date

Dewitt is the one who passed on T. Francona when TLR retired

Dewitt is the one who okayed hiring three clowns as Managers

Dewitt is the one who has okayed and signed the checks for Mo's idiotic FA signings and extensions

The problem is BDWJR

He could've put an end to Mo's reign of ineptitude long ago and didn't, content to let him do his thing as long as he drew 3+M.

Well the Rolls Royce has been driven over the cliff.

Unless C. Bloom can find the next Whitey or TLR to turn this sinking ship around, your $2.5B asset is going to start shrinking.

2018 - 88 wins
2019 - 91 wins
2020 - Covid year
2021 - 90 wins
2022 - 93 wins
2023 - 71 wins
2024 - 83 wins

Yes, the last 2 seasons have been short of the mark.

LIVING off past success is over cranny, that slight of hands isn't working any more and the fan base has spoken by staying away from Busch Stadium.

2018 - 2022 they rode Waino and Yadi (even Albert on his return).

Once they were all gone, the team collapsed.

Mo and Oli should've both been fired after 2023.

Dewitt is the problem and you know it, he could've stepped in long before this collapse and fired Mo & Oli.

He failed to act, he's now paying the price.

Enjoy those 15,000-20,000 crowds if he keep sleeping on the job.

Expenses will be kept in line with revenues, until the better development kicks in and crowds increase. Then there will be more money to spend.

"Remain calm...........all is well"!

No cranny, it's not.

BDWJr will have to increase payroll back to the $180M level or he'll never see 3+M again, may not even see 2.5M.

If he's not willing to do so, then it's time to sell before he turns the Cardinals into the Pirates.

As soon as the developmental program is in place and working, expenses will increase as hopefully revenue increases. Depends on how well the young guys do, the cable contract, the hoped for increase in attendance, and what happens with the collective bargaining agreement.

[sikeston bulldog2]

I've been screaming BILL DEWITT, JR is the real problem now for going on four years!

Dewitt is the one who kept Mo on well past his expiration date

Dewitt is the one who passed on T. Francona when TLR retired

Dewitt is the one who okayed hiring three clowns as Managers

Dewitt is the one who has okayed and signed the checks for Mo's idiotic FA signings and extensions

The problem is BDWJR

He could've put an end to Mo's reign of ineptitude long ago and didn't, content to let him do his thing as long as he drew 3+M.

Well the Rolls Royce has been driven over the cliff.

Unless C. Bloom can find the next Whitey or TLR to turn this sinking ship around, your $2.5B asset is going to start shrinking.

2018 - 88 wins
2019 - 91 wins
2020 - Covid year
2021 - 90 wins
2022 - 93 wins
2023 - 71 wins
2024 - 83 wins

Yes, the last 2 seasons have been short of the mark.

LIVING off past success is over cranny, that slight of hands isn't working any more and the fan base has spoken by staying away from Busch Stadium.

2018 - 2022 they rode Waino and Yadi (even Albert on his return).

Once they were all gone, the team collapsed.

Mo and Oli should've both been fired after 2023.

Dewitt is the problem and you know it, he could've stepped in long before this collapse and fired Mo & Oli.

He failed to act, he's now paying the price.

Enjoy those 15,000-20,000 crowds if he keep sleeping on the job.

Expenses will be kept in line with revenues, until the better development kicks in and crowds increase. Then there will be more money to spend.

"Remain calm...........all is well"!

No cranny, it's not.

BDWJr will have to increase payroll back to the $180M level or he'll never see 3+M again, may not even see 2.5M.

If he's not willing to do so, then it's time to sell before he turns the Cardinals into the Pirates.

As soon as the developmental program is in place and working, expenses will increase as hopefully revenue increases. Depends on how well the young guys do, the cable contract, the hoped for increase in attendance, and what happens with the collective bargaining agreement.

You say it depends on four areas, all diverse and all in related to one plan. In fact it’s so broad and generalized it could pass for a mission statement .

[Cranny]

I've been screaming BILL DEWITT, JR is the real problem now for going on four years!

Dewitt is the one who kept Mo on well past his expiration date

Dewitt is the one who passed on T. Francona when TLR retired

Dewitt is the one who okayed hiring three clowns as Managers

Dewitt is the one who has okayed and signed the checks for Mo's idiotic FA signings and extensions

The problem is BDWJR

He could've put an end to Mo's reign of ineptitude long ago and didn't, content to let him do his thing as long as he drew 3+M.

Well the Rolls Royce has been driven over the cliff.

Unless C. Bloom can find the next Whitey or TLR to turn this sinking ship around, your $2.5B asset is going to start shrinking.

2018 - 88 wins
2019 - 91 wins
2020 - Covid year
2021 - 90 wins
2022 - 93 wins
2023 - 71 wins
2024 - 83 wins

Yes, the last 2 seasons have been short of the mark.

LIVING off past success is over cranny, that slight of hands isn't working any more and the fan base has spoken by staying away from Busch Stadium.

2018 - 2022 they rode Waino and Yadi (even Albert on his return).

Once they were all gone, the team collapsed.

Mo and Oli should've both been fired after 2023.

Dewitt is the problem and you know it, he could've stepped in long before this collapse and fired Mo & Oli.

He failed to act, he's now paying the price.

Enjoy those 15,000-20,000 crowds if he keep sleeping on the job.

Expenses will be kept in line with revenues, until the better development kicks in and crowds increase. Then there will be more money to spend.

"Remain calm...........all is well"!

No cranny, it's not.

BDWJr will have to increase payroll back to the $180M level or he'll never see 3+M again, may not even see 2.5M.

If he's not willing to do so, then it's time to sell before he turns the Cardinals into the Pirates.

As soon as the developmental program is in place and working, expenses will increase as hopefully revenue increases. Depends on how well the young guys do, the cable contract, the hoped for increase in attendance, and what happens with the collective bargaining agreement.

You say it depends on four areas, all diverse and all in related to one plan. In fact it’s so broad and generalized it could pass for a mission statement .

If revenues are down, you’re changing your POBO, and there’s a looming strike in 18 months, what would you do SB?

[rockondlouie]

I've been screaming BILL DEWITT, JR is the real problem now for going on four years!

Dewitt is the one who kept Mo on well past his expiration date

Dewitt is the one who passed on T. Francona when TLR retired

Dewitt is the one who okayed hiring three clowns as Managers

Dewitt is the one who has okayed and signed the checks for Mo's idiotic FA signings and extensions

The problem is BDWJR

He could've put an end to Mo's reign of ineptitude long ago and didn't, content to let him do his thing as long as he drew 3+M.

Well the Rolls Royce has been driven over the cliff.

Unless C. Bloom can find the next Whitey or TLR to turn this sinking ship around, your $2.5B asset is going to start shrinking.

2018 - 88 wins
2019 - 91 wins
2020 - Covid year
2021 - 90 wins
2022 - 93 wins
2023 - 71 wins
2024 - 83 wins

Yes, the last 2 seasons have been short of the mark.

LIVING off past success is over cranny, that slight of hands isn't working any more and the fan base has spoken by staying away from Busch Stadium.

2018 - 2022 they rode Waino and Yadi (even Albert on his return).

Once they were all gone, the team collapsed.

Mo and Oli should've both been fired after 2023.

Dewitt is the problem and you know it, he could've stepped in long before this collapse and fired Mo & Oli.

He failed to act, he's now paying the price.

Enjoy those 15,000-20,000 crowds if he keep sleeping on the job.

Expenses will be kept in line with revenues, until the better development kicks in and crowds increase. Then there will be more money to spend.

"Remain calm...........all is well"!

No cranny, it's not.

BDWJr will have to increase payroll back to the $180M level or he'll never see 3+M again, may not even see 2.5M.

If he's not willing to do so, then it's time to sell before he turns the Cardinals into the Pirates.

As soon as the developmental program is in place and working, expenses will increase as hopefully revenue increases. Depends on how well the young guys do, the cable contract, the hoped for increase in attendance, and what happens with the collective bargaining agreement.

Lot of "hope" there and hope is not a strategy.

Unless he and C. Bloom bring in the right Manager and Dewitt gives Bloom the same $180M payroll he gave Mo , then he's not going to break this declining attendance cycle as the team will continue to flounder.

I see little down below that going to make this team a contender for years.

Bill's operating with a 1990's/early 2000's mind set (although removing Mo for Bloom is a solid move in the right direction, next comes replacing Oli), the game has changed and it takes a solid monetary commitment from ownership to compete and draw crowds.

[sikeston bulldog2]

I've been screaming BILL DEWITT, JR is the real problem now for going on four years!

Dewitt is the one who kept Mo on well past his expiration date

Dewitt is the one who passed on T. Francona when TLR retired

Dewitt is the one who okayed hiring three clowns as Managers

Dewitt is the one who has okayed and signed the checks for Mo's idiotic FA signings and extensions

The problem is BDWJR

He could've put an end to Mo's reign of ineptitude long ago and didn't, content to let him do his thing as long as he drew 3+M.

Well the Rolls Royce has been driven over the cliff.

Unless C. Bloom can find the next Whitey or TLR to turn this sinking ship around, your $2.5B asset is going to start shrinking.

2018 - 88 wins
2019 - 91 wins
2020 - Covid year
2021 - 90 wins
2022 - 93 wins
2023 - 71 wins
2024 - 83 wins

Yes, the last 2 seasons have been short of the mark.

LIVING off past success is over cranny, that slight of hands isn't working any more and the fan base has spoken by staying away from Busch Stadium.

2018 - 2022 they rode Waino and Yadi (even Albert on his return).

Once they were all gone, the team collapsed.

Mo and Oli should've both been fired after 2023.

Dewitt is the problem and you know it, he could've stepped in long before this collapse and fired Mo & Oli.

He failed to act, he's now paying the price.

Enjoy those 15,000-20,000 crowds if he keep sleeping on the job.

Expenses will be kept in line with revenues, until the better development kicks in and crowds increase. Then there will be more money to spend.

"Remain calm...........all is well"!

No cranny, it's not.

BDWJr will have to increase payroll back to the $180M level or he'll never see 3+M again, may not even see 2.5M.

If he's not willing to do so, then it's time to sell before he turns the Cardinals into the Pirates.

As soon as the developmental program is in place and working, expenses will increase as hopefully revenue increases. Depends on how well the young guys do, the cable contract, the hoped for increase in attendance, and what happens with the collective bargaining agreement.

You say it depends on four areas, all diverse and all in related to one plan. In fact it’s so broad and generalized it could pass for a mission statement .

If revenues are down, you’re changing your POBO, and there’s a looming strike in 18 months, what would you do SB?

Sell. If I’m his age I set the family up for decades. But realistically I’d ask- why is revenue down. One hand feeds the other. Fix the product get the revenue.

[rockondlouie]

Sell. If I’m his age I set the family up for decades. But realistically I’d ask- why is revenue down. One hand feeds the other. Fix the product get the revenue.

This is where cranny is going wrong BDog

He wants attendance to come back FIRST, then BDWJr will up payroll.

Business doesn't work that way.

You have to spend first and build up the product, then the customers will come.

Give Cardinals fans a quality on field product (re: players), a competent POBO plus Field Manager and you'll draw 3+M.

Pretty simple, can't believe they can't see it.

[Cranny]

Sell. If I’m his age I set the family up for decades. But realistically I’d ask- why is revenue down. One hand feeds the other. Fix the product get the revenue.

This is where cranny is going wrong BDog

He wants attendance to come back FIRST, then BDWJr will up payroll.

Business doesn't work that way.

You have to spend first and build up the product, then the customers will come.

Give Cardinals fans a quality on field product (re: players), a competent POBO plus Field Manager and you'll draw 3+M.

Pretty simple, can't believe they can't see it.

How much revenue will there be if there’s a strike?

[rockondlouie]

Sell. If I’m his age I set the family up for decades. But realistically I’d ask- why is revenue down. One hand feeds the other. Fix the product get the revenue.

This is where cranny is going wrong BDog

He wants attendance to come back FIRST, then BDWJr will up payroll.

Business doesn't work that way.

You have to spend first and build up the product, then the customers will come.

Give Cardinals fans a quality on field product (re: players), a competent POBO plus Field Manager and you'll draw 3+M.

Pretty simple, can't believe they can't see it.

How much revenue will there be if there’s a strike?

I don't deal in "what if's".

Just another excuse BDWJr will use to go cheap again in 2026.

If he does cranny and also brings back Oli, then I'm cutting down to two season tickets from four and I can promise you I won't be alone.

He'd be lucky to draw 1.8M if he keeps the payroll under $150M.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Sell. If I’m his age I set the family up for decades. But realistically I’d ask- why is revenue down. One hand feeds the other. Fix the product get the revenue.

This is where cranny is going wrong BDog

He wants attendance to come back FIRST, then BDWJr will up payroll.

Business doesn't work that way.

You have to spend first and build up the product, then the customers will come.

Give Cardinals fans a quality on field product (re: players), a competent POBO plus Field Manager and you'll draw 3+M.

Pretty simple, can't believe they can't see it.

How much revenue will there be if there’s a strike?

None as per the revenue you speak of. The strike is an industry risk that needs no planning for 1.5 years out. There is already a chapter in the Cardinals Way that addresses strikes- It’s titled Strikes. Go figure.

[Cranny]

Sell. If I’m his age I set the family up for decades. But realistically I’d ask- why is revenue down. One hand feeds the other. Fix the product get the revenue.

This is where cranny is going wrong BDog

He wants attendance to come back FIRST, then BDWJr will up payroll.

Business doesn't work that way.

You have to spend first and build up the product, then the customers will come.

Give Cardinals fans a quality on field product (re: players), a competent POBO plus Field Manager and you'll draw 3+M.

Pretty simple, can't believe they can't see it.

How much revenue will there be if there’s a strike?

None as per the revenue you speak of. The strike is an industry risk that needs no planning for 1.5 years out. There is already a chapter in the Cardinals Way that addresses strikes- It’s titled Strikes. Go figure.

Top notch free agents now want multi-year contracts. Would you spend big money right now on big, multi-year contracts?

[sikeston bulldog2]

Sell. If I’m his age I set the family up for decades. But realistically I’d ask- why is revenue down. One hand feeds the other. Fix the product get the revenue.

This is where cranny is going wrong BDog

He wants attendance to come back FIRST, then BDWJr will up payroll.

Business doesn't work that way.

You have to spend first and build up the product, then the customers will come.

Give Cardinals fans a quality on field product (re: players), a competent POBO plus Field Manager and you'll draw 3+M.

Pretty simple, can't believe they can't see it.

How much revenue will there be if there’s a strike?

None as per the revenue you speak of. The strike is an industry risk that needs no planning for 1.5 years out. There is already a chapter in the Cardinals Way that addresses strikes- It’s titled Strikes. Go figure.

Top notch free agents now want multi-year contracts. Would you spend big money right now on big, multi-year contracts?

No. I’m in a three phase/year reset. I buy my first stud this coming off season. I buy two more off season 2026. I compete 2027.

[Cranny]

Sell. If I’m his age I set the family up for decades. But realistically I’d ask- why is revenue down. One hand feeds the other. Fix the product get the revenue.

This is where cranny is going wrong BDog

He wants attendance to come back FIRST, then BDWJr will up payroll.

Business doesn't work that way.

You have to spend first and build up the product, then the customers will come.

Give Cardinals fans a quality on field product (re: players), a competent POBO plus Field Manager and you'll draw 3+M.

Pretty simple, can't believe they can't see it.

How much revenue will there be if there’s a strike?

None as per the revenue you speak of. The strike is an industry risk that needs no planning for 1.5 years out. There is already a chapter in the Cardinals Way that addresses strikes- It’s titled Strikes. Go figure.

Top notch free agents now want multi-year contracts. Would you spend big money right now on big, multi-year contracts?

No. I’m in a three phase/year reset. I buy my first stud this coming off season. I buy two more off season 2026. I compete 2027.

What do you do if Walker and Gorman come on strong, Herrera continues to bang, Noot has a great year, Donovan continues to lead, and Winn is solid?

[Shady]

Sell. If I’m his age I set the family up for decades. But realistically I’d ask- why is revenue down. One hand feeds the other. Fix the product get the revenue.

This is where cranny is going wrong BDog

He wants attendance to come back FIRST, then BDWJr will up payroll.

Business doesn't work that way.

You have to spend first and build up the product, then the customers will come.

Give Cardinals fans a quality on field product (re: players), a competent POBO plus Field Manager and you'll draw 3+M.

Pretty simple, can't believe they can't see it.

How much revenue will there be if there’s a strike?

None as per the revenue you speak of. The strike is an industry risk that needs no planning for 1.5 years out. There is already a chapter in the Cardinals Way that addresses strikes- It’s titled Strikes. Go figure.

Top notch free agents now want multi-year contracts. Would you spend big money right now on big, multi-year contracts?

No. I’m in a three phase/year reset. I buy my first stud this coming off season. I buy two more off season 2026. I compete 2027.

What do you do if Walker and Gorman come on strong, Herrera continues to bang, Noot has a great year, Donovan continues to lead, and Winn is solid?

While fantasizing. How about if Saggese keeps raking and Burleson starts hitting like the first half of last season?