Dimwit & Mo master plan

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Dimwit & Mo master plan

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Aw! the fruits of the master plan taking shape.
The Master Plan
Hire a new GM but don't use for 2 years
Keep a manager who can't manage
Play your AAA team as a major league team

OH this isn't a master plan it's a DimWIT plan How to LOSE 101
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Now you've done it!
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Destroy fan base and attendance……..to where no one cares if team moves…..
Where have I seen this episode before…..sounds so familiar…..
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Announce intent to fire sale. But trade nobody. This way, you can do nothing, but increase fan expectations of what they thought they'd actually be watching on the field based on your end of 2024 presser. It's like trading for Nolan Arenado all over again.
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Invest money in the developmental system by buying expensive, sophisticated equipment and hiring guys who know how train with it. Stock the roster with mainly young, talented, properly prepared players, and fill in where necessary via trades and FA signings.
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Cranny wrote: 20 Apr 2025 17:15 pm Invest money in the developmental system by buying expensive, sophisticated equipment and hiring guys who know how train with it. Stock the roster with mainly young, talented, properly prepared players, and fill in where necessary via trades and FA signings.
Maybe they are right on schedule with that expensive equipment thingy. The rest of the plan we will begin to see in 5 years. Challenge will be to stay ahead of Pirates as they move forward.
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swatski wrote: 20 Apr 2025 17:23 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Apr 2025 17:15 pm Invest money in the developmental system by buying expensive, sophisticated equipment and hiring guys who know how train with it. Stock the roster with mainly young, talented, properly prepared players, and fill in where necessary via trades and FA signings.
Maybe they are right on schedule with that expensive equipment thingy. The rest of the plan we will begin to see in 5 years. Challenge will be to stay ahead of Pirates as they move forward.
that's about it Swatski
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Cranny wrote: 20 Apr 2025 17:15 pm Invest money in the developmental system by buying expensive, sophisticated equipment and hiring guys who know how train with it. Stock the roster with mainly young, talented, properly prepared players, and fill in where necessary via trades and FA signings.
Cranny what did this organization do before “expensive sophisticated equipment” was a thing?
They had a Kissel, an Oquendo teaching how to play winning baseball
They had Herzog, a LaRussa getting the MOST out of the ML roster winning some games by playing better chess than the other dugout.
Why did BDW go away from these long time tested winning combinations?
And it verified that he did by closely reviewing the Shildt situation. Mike went against whatever was be mandated from the POBO box at Busch and won 17 in a row to make playoffs. He thought he had some juice to return to the Cardinal Way and he was executed. And he’s basically stated as much
So again this BDW/MO system the so heavily defended and fired winning managers over has been proven a complete loser and fraud and now this narrative they can’t pay for a real MLB because they need to buy expensive equipment to compete……. ::crazya:: ::crazya::
If as an owner you can’t stay current wtih “expensive equipment” you need to move on
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Be proactive and begin to trade for prospects. Get another Saggese or whoever…
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:)
Goldfan wrote: 20 Apr 2025 18:45 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Apr 2025 17:15 pm Invest money in the developmental system by buying expensive, sophisticated equipment and hiring guys who know how train with it. Stock the roster with mainly young, talented, properly prepared players, and fill in where necessary via trades and FA signings.
Cranny what did this organization do before “expensive sophisticated equipment” was a thing?
They had a Kissel, an Oquendo teaching how to play winning baseball
They had Herzog, a LaRussa getting the MOST out of the ML roster winning some games by playing better chess than the other dugout.
Why did BDW go away from these long time tested winning combinations?
And it verified that he did by closely reviewing the Shildt situation. Mike went against whatever was be mandated from the POBO box at Busch and won 17 in a row to make playoffs. He thought he had some juice to return to the Cardinal Way and he was executed. And he’s basically stated as much
So again this BDW/MO system the so heavily defended and fired winning managers over has been proven a complete loser and fraud and now this narrative they can’t pay for a real MLB because they need to buy expensive equipment to compete……. ::crazya:: ::crazya::
If as an owner you can’t stay current wtih “expensive equipment” you need to move on
They’re stocked with pitching up and down the system, but the development of position players has been behind schedule. The issues with Gorman and Walker were a wake-up call. They realized that they needed some younger guys overseeing the minors instead of older guys like Gary LaRocque.
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Easy master plan.

1. SAVE MONEY
2. Do nothing.

BDW3 wants to save money. Mo happily agrees because his lazy (donkey) didn't have to do anything.
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Re: Dimwit & Mo master plan

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Cranny wrote: 20 Apr 2025 19:37 pm :)
Goldfan wrote: 20 Apr 2025 18:45 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Apr 2025 17:15 pm Invest money in the developmental system by buying expensive, sophisticated equipment and hiring guys who know how train with it. Stock the roster with mainly young, talented, properly prepared players, and fill in where necessary via trades and FA signings.
Cranny what did this organization do before “expensive sophisticated equipment” was a thing?
They had a Kissel, an Oquendo teaching how to play winning baseball
They had Herzog, a LaRussa getting the MOST out of the ML roster winning some games by playing better chess than the other dugout.
Why did BDW go away from these long time tested winning combinations?
And it verified that he did by closely reviewing the Shildt situation. Mike went against whatever was be mandated from the POBO box at Busch and won 17 in a row to make playoffs. He thought he had some juice to return to the Cardinal Way and he was executed. And he’s basically stated as much
So again this BDW/MO system the so heavily defended and fired winning managers over has been proven a complete loser and fraud and now this narrative they can’t pay for a real MLB because they need to buy expensive equipment to compete……. ::crazya:: ::crazya::
If as an owner you can’t stay current wtih “expensive equipment” you need to move on
They’re stocked with pitching up and down the system, but the development of position players has been behind schedule. The issues with Gorman and Walker were a wake-up call. They realized that they needed some younger guys overseeing the minors instead of older guys like Gary LaRocque.
Four of the top six pitching prospects are currently hurt. None of them are considered by scouts as having Ace potential. I don’t see how they are stocked with pitching prospects. It normally takes 4 very good pitching prospect to equal a decent major league starter due to injuries and high failure rate on pitching prospects to develop into major league starters. They have taken a recent good move in getting the pitching development guy from Seattle. They are renowned for developing pitchers.
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Re: Dimwit & Mo master plan

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kyace wrote: 20 Apr 2025 20:06 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Apr 2025 19:37 pm :)
Goldfan wrote: 20 Apr 2025 18:45 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Apr 2025 17:15 pm Invest money in the developmental system by buying expensive, sophisticated equipment and hiring guys who know how train with it. Stock the roster with mainly young, talented, properly prepared players, and fill in where necessary via trades and FA signings.
Cranny what did this organization do before “expensive sophisticated equipment” was a thing?
They had a Kissel, an Oquendo teaching how to play winning baseball
They had Herzog, a LaRussa getting the MOST out of the ML roster winning some games by playing better chess than the other dugout.
Why did BDW go away from these long time tested winning combinations?
And it verified that he did by closely reviewing the Shildt situation. Mike went against whatever was be mandated from the POBO box at Busch and won 17 in a row to make playoffs. He thought he had some juice to return to the Cardinal Way and he was executed. And he’s basically stated as much
So again this BDW/MO system the so heavily defended and fired winning managers over has been proven a complete loser and fraud and now this narrative they can’t pay for a real MLB because they need to buy expensive equipment to compete……. ::crazya:: ::crazya::
If as an owner you can’t stay current wtih “expensive equipment” you need to move on
They’re stocked with pitching up and down the system, but the development of position players has been behind schedule. The issues with Gorman and Walker were a wake-up call. They realized that they needed some younger guys overseeing the minors instead of older guys like Gary LaRocque.
Four of the top six pitching prospects are currently hurt. None of them are considered by scouts as having Ace potential. I don’t see how they are stocked with pitching prospects. It normally takes 4 very good pitching prospect to equal a decent major league starter due to injuries and high failure rate on pitching prospects to develop into major league starters. They have taken a recent good move in getting the pitching development guy from Seattle. They are renowned for developing pitchers.
Cardinals minor league pitching was recently ranked #3 among 30 organizations.
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Cranny wrote: 20 Apr 2025 19:37 pm :)
Goldfan wrote: 20 Apr 2025 18:45 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Apr 2025 17:15 pm Invest money in the developmental system by buying expensive, sophisticated equipment and hiring guys who know how train with it. Stock the roster with mainly young, talented, properly prepared players, and fill in where necessary via trades and FA signings.
Cranny what did this organization do before “expensive sophisticated equipment” was a thing?
They had a Kissel, an Oquendo teaching how to play winning baseball
They had Herzog, a LaRussa getting the MOST out of the ML roster winning some games by playing better chess than the other dugout.
Why did BDW go away from these long time tested winning combinations?
And it verified that he did by closely reviewing the Shildt situation. Mike went against whatever was be mandated from the POBO box at Busch and won 17 in a row to make playoffs. He thought he had some juice to return to the Cardinal Way and he was executed. And he’s basically stated as much
So again this BDW/MO system the so heavily defended and fired winning managers over has been proven a complete loser and fraud and now this narrative they can’t pay for a real MLB because they need to buy expensive equipment to compete……. ::crazya:: ::crazya::
If as an owner you can’t stay current wtih “expensive equipment” you need to move on
They’re stocked with pitching up and down the system, but the development of position players has been behind schedule. The issues with Gorman and Walker were a wake-up call. They realized that they needed some younger guys overseeing the minors instead of older guys like Gary LaRocque.
It always LaRocque being old…..was there ever anyone watching LaRocque?? Watching the constant flow of prospects who flame out in MLB?? Who might this person be that oversees President Of Baseball Operations perhaps?? Doesn’t the POBO employ a LaRocque and all the other non-performing deadbeats who didn’t develop talent for a decade??? Why do you always have a giant void in your blame game? Mo didn’t know that all his performing peers had this latest greatest equipment? He didn’t know that younger leaders have the innovative teachings?? BDW/Mo let this bus drive off the cliff
But your interpretation is that they let poor Gary LaRocque destroy their minor league system because BDW/MO never checked in with him for decade :wink: :lol: :lol:
Team had a GM that no one knew what he did and he’s now in charge of Special OPs…….was that Garys fault too???
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BDW Jr. and BDW III have a single master plan, and it doesn't involve the baseball team - rather, it's real estate development, starting with expanding Ballpark Village, One Cardinal Way, and other projects not yet announced. Using the baseball team as the carrot is their strategy.
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skeezix wrote: 20 Apr 2025 21:12 pm BDW Jr. and BDW III have a single master plan, and it doesn't involve the baseball team - rather, it's real estate development, starting with expanding Ballpark Village, One Cardinal Way, and other projects not yet announced. Using the baseball team as the carrot is their strategy.
Why would anyone put more $$$ in downtown Stl? It’s a lawless dead zone
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