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Perunovich pick

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Just read that since SP played less than 20 games for the Isles, we no longer receive their fifth round pick.
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C'est la vie.
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WOW! If I'm not mistaken, that's the only true failure of a first round pick from this team since 2006. Even Bokk and Rundblad were flipped for productive players.
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TAFKAP wrote: 19 Apr 2025 11:26 am WOW! If I'm not mistaken, that's the only true failure of a first round pick from this team since 2006. Even Bokk and Rundblad were flipped for productive players.
2nd round pick, 45th overall, still a decent pick slot, and sadly a wasted pick
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TAFKAP wrote: 19 Apr 2025 11:26 am WOW! If I'm not mistaken, that's the only true failure of a first round pick from this team since 2006. Even Bokk and Rundblad were flipped for productive players.
Peru was a mid 2nd round pick.

And believe it or not, he’s already had a better career than the average 45th overall pick. Even with all the injuries.

But yes, it sucks we ended up getting nothing for him. The condition on the pick was reportedly that he had to play 20 games for the Isles yet this season. He played his first 9 games with the Islanders but was then benched after they added Tony DeAngelo from the KHL. Peru then played the final 2 games of the season but that wasn’t enough to get him to 20 GP.
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The dream of him reaching his full potential and thus having to both one day overpay and shelter this type of Krug-ish player on the ice is dead it looks like.
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STL fan in MN wrote: 19 Apr 2025 11:32 am
TAFKAP wrote: 19 Apr 2025 11:26 am WOW! If I'm not mistaken, that's the only true failure of a first round pick from this team since 2006. Even Bokk and Rundblad were flipped for productive players.
Peru was a mid 2nd round pick.

And believe it or not, he’s already had a better career than the average 45th overall pick. Even with all the injuries.

But yes, it sucks we ended up getting nothing for him. The condition on the pick was reportedly that he had to play 20 games for the Isles yet this season. He played his first 9 games with the Islanders but was then benched after they added Tony DeAngelo from the KHL. Peru then played the final 2 games of the season but that wasn’t enough to get him to 20 GP.
Agree with everything here. Hardly a failure at that spot. Just not a big hit. He's played 108 NHL games with 32 points and has a +/- of even overall. For reference, the guy picked one spot ahead of him at 44 has never come over from Sweden and just posted 10 points in 48 games over there.
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Another way to look at this is considering him a throw-in for Fowler. That works for me.

I can't forget how he tore up the AHL when he first turned pro. He had (or has?) skills. He's not the first talented player to have a career derailed and he won't be the last.

For those inclined to diss on Army for missing on this pick, the little phenom in Montreal is one bad injury away from following in Perunovich's footsteps.
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DawgDad wrote: 19 Apr 2025 11:47 am Another way to look at this is considering him a throw-in for Fowler. That works for me.

I can't forget how he tore up the AHL when he first turned pro. He had (or has?) skills. He's not the first talented player to have a career derailed and he won't be the last.

For those inclined to diss on Army for missing on this pick, the little phenom in Montreal is one bad injury away from following in Perunovich's footsteps.
really good points. what he needs is a Walman type reset.go to a bad team that can afford to throw him out there consistently and see what floats to the top. I think his skills are NHL level, but the health.. ugh
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Peru is 40th in NHL points in his draft class and he is a dman, The realization here should be more about reflecting on expectations not that is a blown pick.

I know he has to go make his rounds and see if he can make it work but otherwise I wish we still had him in the system. There was never any rational reason to move him outside doing him a favor.
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yeah, not really a blown pick in the grand scheme of things either, if you look at the general levels of success per organization, the blues are still near the top of the list in terms of successful year-over-year success rate from their draft picks. We've gotten several really serviceable players with picks that other teams squander.
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There are sooo many players with the profile and such a tiny percentage of them hit. They drafted him because at the time they had a highly questionable philosophy in the moment that you win the Cup with little squirt PPQBs instead of the obvious large excellent skating defenders. They seem to have remembered how the Cup is won with the most recent defensive drafting focus, so they at least learned from this error in philosophy.

If we were in a time where little Debrincats were the rage right now, I would be worried they'd want to draft Cam Schmidt out of Vancouver this year. He is 5'7" I am perfectly content to miss out on the little squirts and let someone else take them. I would also be nervous about Cullen Potter or Ben Kindel in the first this year for similar concerns but I like more out of both their games than Schmidt.

All of that said I only have an issue with the type of player, not that they used this specific 45th overall pick on Scott Perunovich. If he'd been a first rounder I'd criticize but it was a flier on an iffy idea in the first place. Meh. I cannot fathom wishing for him back with the Blues though, that is mind boggling.
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seattleblue wrote: 19 Apr 2025 11:43 am The dream of him reaching his full potential and thus having to both one day overpay and shelter this type of Krug-ish player on the ice is dead it looks like.
Another blemish on an otherwise fairly spectacular Doug Armstrong tenure: thinking the league was going to puck moving defensemen even at the expense of size. We're still paying the price to Army's philisophical change with Faulk to a degree. His calling card was supposed to be offense and he's only slightly better than mediocre in that department too. I honestly wish we still had Niko Mikkola.
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TBone wrote: 19 Apr 2025 12:06 pm
seattleblue wrote: 19 Apr 2025 11:43 am The dream of him reaching his full potential and thus having to both one day overpay and shelter this type of Krug-ish player on the ice is dead it looks like.
Another blemish on an otherwise fairly spectacular Doug Armstrong tenure: thinking the league was going to puck moving defensemen even at the expense of size. We're still paying the price to Army's philisophical change with Faulk to a degree. His calling card was supposed to be offense and he's only slightly better than mediocre in that department too. I honestly wish we still had Niko Mikkola.
If you liked Niko Mikkola you're gonna love Lukas Fischer
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seattleblue wrote: 19 Apr 2025 12:00 pm There are sooo many players with the profile and such a tiny percentage of them hit. They drafted him because at the time they had a highly questionable philosophy in the moment that you win the Cup with little squirt PPQBs instead of the obvious large excellent skating defenders. They seem to have remembered how the Cup is won with the most recent defensive drafting focus, so they at least learned from this error in philosophy.

If we were in a time where little Debrincats were the rage right now, I would be worried they'd want to draft Cam Schmidt out of Vancouver this year. He is 5'7" I am perfectly content to miss out on the little squirts and let someone else take them. I would also be nervous about Cullen Potter or Ben Kindel in the first this year for similar concerns but I like more out of both their games than Schmidt.

All of that said I only have an issue with the type of player, not that they used this specific 45th overall pick on Scott Perunovich. If he'd been a first rounder I'd criticize but it was a flier on an iffy idea in the first place. Meh. I cannot fathom wishing for him back with the Blues though, that is mind boggling.
lol no they took him where no "large excellent skating defenders" are available unless they have other huge warts.

and what is mind boggling is not wanting a dominant AHL d man in the system feeding pucks to our forward prospects.
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Part of his problem was his refusal to shoot the puck more. He's got a good shot. But he's not big enough to be a solid Dman and not fast enough to be a slippery one. Those two season-ending surgeries really messed up his development.
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