Honestly cannot understand why Trevor Bauer has not been

[An Old Friend]

Bauer sounds like a tool in a lot of ways, but no one can logically explain why Ozuna (who also chocked a woman and it was most clearly not consensual) was allowed back into the league and everyone seemed to forget all about it. Heck, Aroldis Chapman chocked a woman and then decided to discharge eight gunshots into his garage, and it's all good. I am fine with a rigid standard in regards to domestic violence, if it is evenly applied.

Both also, while garbage, at least had the sense to not open their mouths any time a microphone was near them. I get the feeling that if Bauer did the same, he'd be back too.

So Bauer's crime, then, is at least partially being white and fluent in English.

And defending himself against false accusations along with a media attack against him.

Oh give me a break. Let's think about this critically, here.

Mike Leake--busted for shoplifting. And then we heard nothing about it, goes on to have a long, if undistinguished, MLB career. He also never spoke of his incident after it happened. White, and presumably fluent in English.

That’s a hilarious comp, taboo sex and shoplifting

Julio Urias--busted for similar reasons to Trevor Bauer. Long suspension. Born in Mexico, might be fluent in English, but definitely fluent in Spanish. Decidedly not-white. 20 game winner, two top-10 Cy Young finishes, hasn't pitched since 2023. Still significantly under 30--at 28 years old. And similar to Bauer, NOBODY's touched this guy. Nobody probably will, and he's still suspended to boot.

You already said it - he’s suspended.

And if Major League Baseball is being as unfair to Trevor Bauer as he claims? Why doesn't he sue? If the case is as open and shut as he says, why not sue? To hear him tell it, it's an easy case to win. So sue! Sue the pants off MLB! What are they gonna do? Keep him out of the league? Even if he wins the suit, and MLB is a baby about it, he at least as the satisfaction--and the proof--that he was blacklisted unfairly. So why doesn't he? What does he have to hide? He's certainly got enough money to hire a decent lawyer. We're not talking some poor kid from the D.R. who hadn't hit payday yet, and barely speaks English.

Haven’t looked into it but I imagine that would be difficult to prove.

Well, then somebody let Trevor know. Because he seems to think that he can easily prove it. If it's so easy, then do it! Put up or shut up.

But he won't do it. Because that trial is going to have to go through the discovery phase, and that won't go well for Trevor. But it is easier to lob bombs from Youtube and Twitter and raise all kinds of ruckus, and get the rubes to keep his name trending when he needs it to.

I can't help but notice that this is happening right after he got strafed by some team in the NPB.

Presumably he'd still like to keep the door open to play in the majors. Suing MLB would likely close that door.

So what does he have to lose? If he wins, he can presumably come back in and probably gets a nice payday. If he wins, and nobody in MLB wants him, then he's still where he is now, but can at least point out that he was declared clean in a court of law. If he's cleared, he likely wins a fat stack of cash either way.

Time's a wastin'. He's 34.

What do you mean by "declared clean in a court of law"? He hasn't been charged with anything. One of his accusers was.

[An Old Friend]

One thing he does need to do is stay off social media if he ever wants to pitch in the majors again his latest tweets where he calls fans dum dums that criticized him isn’t going to just line teams up to sign him believing he has changed and won’t be a PR nightmare with tweeting and feuding with people

He has a million subscribers on YouTube and 600,000 followers on Twitter. He'd be crazy to shut those off.

[Strummer Jones]

Bauer sounds like a tool in a lot of ways, but no one can logically explain why Ozuna (who also chocked a woman and it was most clearly not consensual) was allowed back into the league and everyone seemed to forget all about it. Heck, Aroldis Chapman chocked a woman and then decided to discharge eight gunshots into his garage, and it's all good. I am fine with a rigid standard in regards to domestic violence, if it is evenly applied.

Both also, while garbage, at least had the sense to not open their mouths any time a microphone was near them. I get the feeling that if Bauer did the same, he'd be back too.

So Bauer's crime, then, is at least partially being white and fluent in English.

And defending himself against false accusations along with a media attack against him.

Oh give me a break. Let's think about this critically, here.

Mike Leake--busted for shoplifting. And then we heard nothing about it, goes on to have a long, if undistinguished, MLB career. He also never spoke of his incident after it happened. White, and presumably fluent in English.

That’s a hilarious comp, taboo sex and shoplifting

Julio Urias--busted for similar reasons to Trevor Bauer. Long suspension. Born in Mexico, might be fluent in English, but definitely fluent in Spanish. Decidedly not-white. 20 game winner, two top-10 Cy Young finishes, hasn't pitched since 2023. Still significantly under 30--at 28 years old. And similar to Bauer, NOBODY's touched this guy. Nobody probably will, and he's still suspended to boot.

You already said it - he’s suspended.

And if Major League Baseball is being as unfair to Trevor Bauer as he claims? Why doesn't he sue? If the case is as open and shut as he says, why not sue? To hear him tell it, it's an easy case to win. So sue! Sue the pants off MLB! What are they gonna do? Keep him out of the league? Even if he wins the suit, and MLB is a baby about it, he at least as the satisfaction--and the proof--that he was blacklisted unfairly. So why doesn't he? What does he have to hide? He's certainly got enough money to hire a decent lawyer. We're not talking some poor kid from the D.R. who hadn't hit payday yet, and barely speaks English.

Haven’t looked into it but I imagine that would be difficult to prove.

Well, then somebody let Trevor know. Because he seems to think that he can easily prove it. If it's so easy, then do it! Put up or shut up.

But he won't do it. Because that trial is going to have to go through the discovery phase, and that won't go well for Trevor. But it is easier to lob bombs from Youtube and Twitter and raise all kinds of ruckus, and get the rubes to keep his name trending when he needs it to.

I can't help but notice that this is happening right after he got strafed by some team in the NPB.

Presumably he'd still like to keep the door open to play in the majors. Suing MLB would likely close that door.

So what does he have to lose? If he wins, he can presumably come back in and probably gets a nice payday. If he wins, and nobody in MLB wants him, then he's still where he is now, but can at least point out that he was declared clean in a court of law. If he's cleared, he likely wins a fat stack of cash either way.

Time's a wastin'. He's 34.

What do you mean by "declared clean in a court of law"? He hasn't been charged with anything. One of his accusers was.

Poor choice of words, for sure. But if Trevor is so convinced that he's being blackballed/shadowbanned/whatever by Major League Baseball, then he should sue. He's 34.

If sues them, and wins, his name is cleared and he can presumably come back. It's not like he's going to have a career much longer anyway. What's he got to lose? To hear him tell it, he's been wronged on a scale never seen before. So...prove it. Let the judges decide. He seems like a confident fellow.

Also "one". Out of how many? Is there a cabal of gold digging women out there to trap major league baseball players? And if so, why was Trevor Bauer the only one snagged? Especially since everyone tells me how smart he is.

[An Old Friend]

Bauer sounds like a tool in a lot of ways, but no one can logically explain why Ozuna (who also chocked a woman and it was most clearly not consensual) was allowed back into the league and everyone seemed to forget all about it. Heck, Aroldis Chapman chocked a woman and then decided to discharge eight gunshots into his garage, and it's all good. I am fine with a rigid standard in regards to domestic violence, if it is evenly applied.

Both also, while garbage, at least had the sense to not open their mouths any time a microphone was near them. I get the feeling that if Bauer did the same, he'd be back too.

So Bauer's crime, then, is at least partially being white and fluent in English.

And defending himself against false accusations along with a media attack against him.

Oh give me a break. Let's think about this critically, here.

Mike Leake--busted for shoplifting. And then we heard nothing about it, goes on to have a long, if undistinguished, MLB career. He also never spoke of his incident after it happened. White, and presumably fluent in English.

That’s a hilarious comp, taboo sex and shoplifting

Julio Urias--busted for similar reasons to Trevor Bauer. Long suspension. Born in Mexico, might be fluent in English, but definitely fluent in Spanish. Decidedly not-white. 20 game winner, two top-10 Cy Young finishes, hasn't pitched since 2023. Still significantly under 30--at 28 years old. And similar to Bauer, NOBODY's touched this guy. Nobody probably will, and he's still suspended to boot.

You already said it - he’s suspended.

And if Major League Baseball is being as unfair to Trevor Bauer as he claims? Why doesn't he sue? If the case is as open and shut as he says, why not sue? To hear him tell it, it's an easy case to win. So sue! Sue the pants off MLB! What are they gonna do? Keep him out of the league? Even if he wins the suit, and MLB is a baby about it, he at least as the satisfaction--and the proof--that he was blacklisted unfairly. So why doesn't he? What does he have to hide? He's certainly got enough money to hire a decent lawyer. We're not talking some poor kid from the D.R. who hadn't hit payday yet, and barely speaks English.

Haven’t looked into it but I imagine that would be difficult to prove.

Well, then somebody let Trevor know. Because he seems to think that he can easily prove it. If it's so easy, then do it! Put up or shut up.

But he won't do it. Because that trial is going to have to go through the discovery phase, and that won't go well for Trevor. But it is easier to lob bombs from Youtube and Twitter and raise all kinds of ruckus, and get the rubes to keep his name trending when he needs it to.

I can't help but notice that this is happening right after he got strafed by some team in the NPB.

Presumably he'd still like to keep the door open to play in the majors. Suing MLB would likely close that door.

So what does he have to lose? If he wins, he can presumably come back in and probably gets a nice payday. If he wins, and nobody in MLB wants him, then he's still where he is now, but can at least point out that he was declared clean in a court of law. If he's cleared, he likely wins a fat stack of cash either way.

Time's a wastin'. He's 34.

What do you mean by "declared clean in a court of law"? He hasn't been charged with anything. One of his accusers was.

Poor choice of words, for sure. But if Trevor is so convinced that he's being blackballed/shadowbanned/whatever by Major League Baseball, then he should sue. He's 34.

If sues them, and wins, his name is cleared and he can presumably come back. It's not like he's going to have a career much longer anyway. What's he got to lose? To hear him tell it, he's been wronged on a scale never seen before. So...prove it. Let the judges decide. He seems like a confident fellow.

Also "one". Out of how many? Is there a cabal of gold digging women out there to trap major league baseball players? And if so, why was Trevor Bauer the only one snagged? Especially since everyone tells me how smart he is.

Cleared of what? He ABSOLUTELY exposed the issue of pitchers using substances to better manipulate the baseball. MLB doesn't like whistleblowers even when it's the truth.

If gold diggers are a novel idea to you... well, that's just a little naive, I guess.

How many? Well... Lindsey Hill who obviously set out to destroy his career and help the Padres in an effort to get back into the Pad Squad's good graces. Darcy Esemonu, the girl who lied about being pregnant and having an abortion, was indicted on charges of felony fraud and extortion. Or the Ohio woman who was arrested after she showed up at Bauer's home inebriated and struck him several times.

Which one of them gives you, personally, the most heartache?

[Ozziesfan41]

One thing he does need to do is stay off social media if he ever wants to pitch in the majors again his latest tweets where he calls fans dum dums that criticized him isn’t going to just line teams up to sign him believing he has changed and won’t be a PR nightmare with tweeting and feuding with people

He has a million subscribers on YouTube and 600,000 followers on Twitter. He'd be crazy to shut those off.

Well then it would probably be a good idea to stop being dumb on social media then. He can either continue to post things that might create PR nightmares for teams by feuding and saying crazy things on social media which they look at and wont want to sign him or he can get off of it or quit posting that kind of stuff and maybe a team might decide he can control himself enough to not create a PR nightmare for them. He has no one to blame but himself for not being in the big leagues right now

[riff raff]

To answer the Op, it's probably because the guys got a screw loose. The saying 'more trouble than it's worth' comes to mind.

[An Old Friend]

He has no one to blame but himself for not being in the big leagues right now

OK, well we both know that isn't true.

Are you of the belief that he was in the wrong to expose the Astros for cheating? Just curious.

[Ozziesfan41]

He has no one to blame but himself for not being in the big leagues right now

OK, well we both know that isn't true.

Are you of the belief that he was in the wrong to expose the Astros for cheating? Just curious.

What does that have to do with him being an idiot on social media having feuds with teammates and managers? His gullible supporters think its just about the woman lying on him its not. Its a lengthy history of him being controversial, childish and a bad teammate and a problem for managers. I know fans on fan forums who dont run anything are like sign him even though he has a terrible history of stupidity and childishness of course they dont care but GMs and owners who do have to take other factors into account cant say the same thing because he has never not been an idiot and caused problems and been a lightning rod for controversy its never happened. His latest tweets calling fans dum dums doesnt help change that notion that he cant stop so yes no one to blame but himself. If he never had problems other than the woman he would be in the big leagues right now

[An Old Friend]

He has no one to blame but himself for not being in the big leagues right now

OK, well we both know that isn't true.

Are you of the belief that he was in the wrong to expose the Astros for cheating? Just curious.

What does that have to do with him being an idiot on social media having feuds with teammates and managers? His gullible supporters think its just about the woman lying on him its not. Its a lengthy history of him being controversial, childish and a bad teammate and a problem for managers. I know fans on fan forums who dont run anything are like sign him even though he has a terrible history of stupidity and childishness of course they dont care but GMs and owners who do have to take other factors into account cant say the same thing because he has never not been an idiot and caused problems and been a lightning rod for controversy its never happened. His latest tweets calling fans dum dums doesnt help change that notion that he cant stop so yes no one to blame but himself. If he never had problems other than the woman he would be in the big leagues right now

You could have, like, just answered the question that I asked instead of putting a whole bunch of words unrelated to the question.

Wanna try again, or just gonna avoid it?

[Ozziesfan41]

He has no one to blame but himself for not being in the big leagues right now

OK, well we both know that isn't true.

Are you of the belief that he was in the wrong to expose the Astros for cheating? Just curious.

What does that have to do with him being an idiot on social media having feuds with teammates and managers? His gullible supporters think its just about the woman lying on him its not. Its a lengthy history of him being controversial, childish and a bad teammate and a problem for managers. I know fans on fan forums who dont run anything are like sign him even though he has a terrible history of stupidity and childishness of course they dont care but GMs and owners who do have to take other factors into account cant say the same thing because he has never not been an idiot and caused problems and been a lightning rod for controversy its never happened. His latest tweets calling fans dum dums doesnt help change that notion that he cant stop so yes no one to blame but himself. If he never had problems other than the woman he would be in the big leagues right now

You could have, like, just answered the question that I asked instead of putting a whole bunch of words unrelated to the question.

Wanna try again, or just gonna avoid it?

I didn't answer it because it was stupid at no point did i ever say he was wrong for exposing the astros cheating show me where i ever said that and it has nothing to do with why he is not in the majors. Do you want to ask me any other stupid questions that i never said anything about and arent related to why he isnt in the majors right now? how about do i think its wrong for him to have donated to charities in the past? or signed an autograph lol

[Strummer Jones]

Bauer sounds like a tool in a lot of ways, but no one can logically explain why Ozuna (who also chocked a woman and it was most clearly not consensual) was allowed back into the league and everyone seemed to forget all about it. Heck, Aroldis Chapman chocked a woman and then decided to discharge eight gunshots into his garage, and it's all good. I am fine with a rigid standard in regards to domestic violence, if it is evenly applied.

Both also, while garbage, at least had the sense to not open their mouths any time a microphone was near them. I get the feeling that if Bauer did the same, he'd be back too.

So Bauer's crime, then, is at least partially being white and fluent in English.

And defending himself against false accusations along with a media attack against him.

Oh give me a break. Let's think about this critically, here.

Mike Leake--busted for shoplifting. And then we heard nothing about it, goes on to have a long, if undistinguished, MLB career. He also never spoke of his incident after it happened. White, and presumably fluent in English.

That’s a hilarious comp, taboo sex and shoplifting

Julio Urias--busted for similar reasons to Trevor Bauer. Long suspension. Born in Mexico, might be fluent in English, but definitely fluent in Spanish. Decidedly not-white. 20 game winner, two top-10 Cy Young finishes, hasn't pitched since 2023. Still significantly under 30--at 28 years old. And similar to Bauer, NOBODY's touched this guy. Nobody probably will, and he's still suspended to boot.

You already said it - he’s suspended.

And if Major League Baseball is being as unfair to Trevor Bauer as he claims? Why doesn't he sue? If the case is as open and shut as he says, why not sue? To hear him tell it, it's an easy case to win. So sue! Sue the pants off MLB! What are they gonna do? Keep him out of the league? Even if he wins the suit, and MLB is a baby about it, he at least as the satisfaction--and the proof--that he was blacklisted unfairly. So why doesn't he? What does he have to hide? He's certainly got enough money to hire a decent lawyer. We're not talking some poor kid from the D.R. who hadn't hit payday yet, and barely speaks English.

Haven’t looked into it but I imagine that would be difficult to prove.

Well, then somebody let Trevor know. Because he seems to think that he can easily prove it. If it's so easy, then do it! Put up or shut up.

But he won't do it. Because that trial is going to have to go through the discovery phase, and that won't go well for Trevor. But it is easier to lob bombs from Youtube and Twitter and raise all kinds of ruckus, and get the rubes to keep his name trending when he needs it to.

I can't help but notice that this is happening right after he got strafed by some team in the NPB.

Presumably he'd still like to keep the door open to play in the majors. Suing MLB would likely close that door.

So what does he have to lose? If he wins, he can presumably come back in and probably gets a nice payday. If he wins, and nobody in MLB wants him, then he's still where he is now, but can at least point out that he was declared clean in a court of law. If he's cleared, he likely wins a fat stack of cash either way.

Time's a wastin'. He's 34.

What do you mean by "declared clean in a court of law"? He hasn't been charged with anything. One of his accusers was.

Poor choice of words, for sure. But if Trevor is so convinced that he's being blackballed/shadowbanned/whatever by Major League Baseball, then he should sue. He's 34.

If sues them, and wins, his name is cleared and he can presumably come back. It's not like he's going to have a career much longer anyway. What's he got to lose? To hear him tell it, he's been wronged on a scale never seen before. So...prove it. Let the judges decide. He seems like a confident fellow.

Also "one". Out of how many? Is there a cabal of gold digging women out there to trap major league baseball players? And if so, why was Trevor Bauer the only one snagged? Especially since everyone tells me how smart he is.

Cleared of what? He ABSOLUTELY exposed the issue of pitchers using substances to better manipulate the baseball. MLB doesn't like whistleblowers even when it's the truth.

If gold diggers are a novel idea to you... well, that's just a little naive, I guess.

How many? Well... Lindsey Hill who obviously set out to destroy his career and help the Padres in an effort to get back into the Pad Squad's good graces. Darcy Esemonu, the girl who lied about being pregnant and having an abortion, was indicted on charges of felony fraud and extortion. Or the Ohio woman who was arrested after she showed up at Bauer's home inebriated and struck him several times.

Which one of them gives you, personally, the most heartache?

Oh no, I'm aware of Gold Diggers. But also, you completely misinterpreted my comment.

I said, or rather asked, "Is there a cabal of gold digging women out there trying to trap major league baseball players? And if so, why was Trevor Bauer the only one snagged? Especially since everyone tells me how smart he is."

How come I never hear about other women coming out against MLB players trying to get their money? Why isn't every woman in the world trying to rope a Juan Soto, or Shohei Ohtani, or whoever? Is Trevor Bauer's money the only money that spends? Do you have that low opinion of women as to think that they're all only out to get money? Might want to get that looked at, if so.

Secondly, Lindsey Hill...what? What in the world do the Padres have to do with this? What does she get out of that? Are you saying that she's a Pads fan, and is completely willing to get the (bleep) beaten out of her if it means getting one pitcher on a rival team suspended for a period of time? Is that what you're saying? Would you be willing to get brutalized if it meant Kyle Tucker couldn't play for the Cubs? What even is this? Sounds like a bunch of [nonsense] to me. And nothing you can prove.

Speaking of other things that cannot be proven, is this Ohio woman thing. Don't you think this would've been all over the news? Like when Tawny Kitaen beat the stuffing out of Chuck Finley? Or is just the Christ-like Trevor Bauer refusing to press assault charges against this woman out of the goodness of his heart? I did a google search of this, and...again...the only source for this is Bauer. Something that he said in an interview. Trevor's response to this particular woman?

From the AP (https://apnews.com/article/sports-mlb-b ... cece5a6969) According to sealed court records and other documentation obtained by the Post, the Ohio woman said Bauer struck and choked her without her consent while they were having sex. He also allegedly sent her a text message from a phone number known to be registered to Bauer saying he doesn’t “feel like spending time in jail for killing someone.”

“And that’s what would happen if I saw you again,” Bauer allegedly wrote, according to the Post, prompting the woman to seek the protective order in June 2020.

Sounds like a stable guy. Very much the same feeling as O.J Simpson "I didn't kill Nicole, but if I did, here's how I WOULD'VE done it."

Your boy's a sociopath.

[thetank2]

Somehow I tried Schnucks's fried chicken. It was better than expected.

[Absolut]

Somehow I tried Schnucks's fried chicken. It was better than expected.

Drumsticks?

[riff raff]

Somehow I tried Schnucks's fried chicken. It was better than expected.

Drumsticks?

Not a fan of their fried chicken. They make a great chicken salad though

[An Old Friend]

He has no one to blame but himself for not being in the big leagues right now

OK, well we both know that isn't true.

Are you of the belief that he was in the wrong to expose the Astros for cheating? Just curious.

What does that have to do with him being an idiot on social media having feuds with teammates and managers? His gullible supporters think its just about the woman lying on him its not. Its a lengthy history of him being controversial, childish and a bad teammate and a problem for managers. I know fans on fan forums who dont run anything are like sign him even though he has a terrible history of stupidity and childishness of course they dont care but GMs and owners who do have to take other factors into account cant say the same thing because he has never not been an idiot and caused problems and been a lightning rod for controversy its never happened. His latest tweets calling fans dum dums doesnt help change that notion that he cant stop so yes no one to blame but himself. If he never had problems other than the woman he would be in the big leagues right now

You could have, like, just answered the question that I asked instead of putting a whole bunch of words unrelated to the question.

Wanna try again, or just gonna avoid it?

I didn't answer it because it was stupid at no point did i ever say he was wrong for exposing the astros cheating show me where i ever said that and it has nothing to do with why he is not in the majors. Do you want to ask me any other stupid questions that i never said anything about and arent related to why he isnt in the majors right now? how about do i think its wrong for him to have donated to charities in the past? or signed an autograph lol

It’s definitely a reason.

[riff raff]

He has no one to blame but himself for not being in the big leagues right now

OK, well we both know that isn't true.

Are you of the belief that he was in the wrong to expose the Astros for cheating? Just curious.

What does that have to do with him being an idiot on social media having feuds with teammates and managers? His gullible supporters think its just about the woman lying on him its not. Its a lengthy history of him being controversial, childish and a bad teammate and a problem for managers. I know fans on fan forums who dont run anything are like sign him even though he has a terrible history of stupidity and childishness of course they dont care but GMs and owners who do have to take other factors into account cant say the same thing because he has never not been an idiot and caused problems and been a lightning rod for controversy its never happened. His latest tweets calling fans dum dums doesnt help change that notion that he cant stop so yes no one to blame but himself. If he never had problems other than the woman he would be in the big leagues right now

You could have, like, just answered the question that I asked instead of putting a whole bunch of words unrelated to the question.

Wanna try again, or just gonna avoid it?

I didn't answer it because it was stupid at no point did i ever say he was wrong for exposing the astros cheating show me where i ever said that and it has nothing to do with why he is not in the majors. Do you want to ask me any other stupid questions that i never said anything about and arent related to why he isnt in the majors right now? how about do i think its wrong for him to have donated to charities in the past? or signed an autograph lol

It’s definitely a reason.

Totality of circumstances.