Possibly, but the earlier you can make a decision, the less it will cost. Figuring out a direction also informs decisions made at the trade deadline.
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Re: Phil Maton
I think they should extend Phil Maglass. Best bartender ever.
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Re: Phil Maton
AgreedTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 10:20 amPossibly, but the earlier you can make a decision, the less it will cost. Figuring out a direction also informs decisions made at the trade deadline.
And I don't see it being to "early" either given Maton's resume:
2023 - 2025
148 G
3.12 ERA
1.08 WHiP
So you know what he can do w/that track record.
With Helsley's departure mid season or at seasons end, the 2026 Cardinals are going to need a reliable veteran in the pen'.
BTW, Maton's never made more than $3.495M AAV so he won't cost more than a $3M (now) AAV.
Wait and it could be another A. Kittridge situation where you lose a standout setup man.
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Re: Phil Maton
LOL... isn't Kittredge injured?rockondlouie wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 14:02 pmAgreedTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 10:20 amPossibly, but the earlier you can make a decision, the less it will cost. Figuring out a direction also informs decisions made at the trade deadline.
And I don't see it being to "early" either given Maton's resume:
2023 - 2025
148 G
3.12 ERA
1.08 WHiP
So you know what he can do w/that track record.
With Helsley's departure mid season or at seasons end, the 2026 Cardinals are going to need a reliable veteran in the pen'.
BTW, Maton's never made more than $3.495M AAV so he won't cost more than a $3M (now) AAV.
Wait and it could be another A. Kittridge situation where you lose a standout setup man.

This is why you don't jump the gun on signing relievers. They rise and fall and only the special few actually are consistent and injury free.
Maton wanted to play for the Cards, I'm sure he still will when the season ends...as long as the Cards want him back.

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Re: Phil Maton
How to tell now. Two scenerios. We are hot, you flip him hot. We are dead, you flip him to a needy to desperate consumer.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 16:31 pm Would you try to extend him for a season, or two, or flip him at the deadline?
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Re: Phil Maton
Hurt his knee in STingscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 14:07 pmLOL... isn't Kittredge injured?rockondlouie wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 14:02 pmAgreedTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 10:20 amPossibly, but the earlier you can make a decision, the less it will cost. Figuring out a direction also informs decisions made at the trade deadline.
And I don't see it being to "early" either given Maton's resume:
2023 - 2025
148 G
3.12 ERA
1.08 WHiP
So you know what he can do w/that track record.
With Helsley's departure mid season or at seasons end, the 2026 Cardinals are going to need a reliable veteran in the pen'.
BTW, Maton's never made more than $3.495M AAV so he won't cost more than a $3M (now) AAV.
Wait and it could be another A. Kittridge situation where you lose a standout setup man.
This is why you don't jump the gun on signing relievers. They rise and fall and only the special few actually are consistent and injury free.
Maton wanted to play for the Cards, I'm sure he still will when the season ends...as long as the Cards want him back.![]()
Fluke injury, not arm related.
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Re: Phil Maton
An injured fluke is nothing to mess with.rockondlouie wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 14:49 pmHurt his knee in STingscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 14:07 pmLOL... isn't Kittredge injured?rockondlouie wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 14:02 pmAgreedTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 10:20 amPossibly, but the earlier you can make a decision, the less it will cost. Figuring out a direction also informs decisions made at the trade deadline.
And I don't see it being to "early" either given Maton's resume:
2023 - 2025
148 G
3.12 ERA
1.08 WHiP
So you know what he can do w/that track record.
With Helsley's departure mid season or at seasons end, the 2026 Cardinals are going to need a reliable veteran in the pen'.
BTW, Maton's never made more than $3.495M AAV so he won't cost more than a $3M (now) AAV.
Wait and it could be another A. Kittridge situation where you lose a standout setup man.
This is why you don't jump the gun on signing relievers. They rise and fall and only the special few actually are consistent and injury free.
Maton wanted to play for the Cards, I'm sure he still will when the season ends...as long as the Cards want him back.![]()
Fluke injury, not arm related.
Re: Phil Maton
This is the Cardinals--Bye-ByeTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 16:31 pm Would you try to extend him for a season, or two, or flip him at the deadline?
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Re: Phil Maton
An injured Fluke. They are the worst. Brilliant.Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 16:06 pmAn injured fluke is nothing to mess with.rockondlouie wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 14:49 pmHurt his knee in STingscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 14:07 pmLOL... isn't Kittredge injured?rockondlouie wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 14:02 pmAgreedTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 10:20 amPossibly, but the earlier you can make a decision, the less it will cost. Figuring out a direction also informs decisions made at the trade deadline.
And I don't see it being to "early" either given Maton's resume:
2023 - 2025
148 G
3.12 ERA
1.08 WHiP
So you know what he can do w/that track record.
With Helsley's departure mid season or at seasons end, the 2026 Cardinals are going to need a reliable veteran in the pen'.
BTW, Maton's never made more than $3.495M AAV so he won't cost more than a $3M (now) AAV.
Wait and it could be another A. Kittridge situation where you lose a standout setup man.
This is why you don't jump the gun on signing relievers. They rise and fall and only the special few actually are consistent and injury free.
Maton wanted to play for the Cards, I'm sure he still will when the season ends...as long as the Cards want him back.![]()
Fluke injury, not arm related.
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Re: Phil Maton
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 16:06 pmAn injured fluke is nothing to mess with.rockondlouie wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 14:49 pmHurt his knee in STingscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 14:07 pmLOL... isn't Kittredge injured?rockondlouie wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 14:02 pmAgreedTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 10:20 amPossibly, but the earlier you can make a decision, the less it will cost. Figuring out a direction also informs decisions made at the trade deadline.
And I don't see it being to "early" either given Maton's resume:
2023 - 2025
148 G
3.12 ERA
1.08 WHiP
So you know what he can do w/that track record.
With Helsley's departure mid season or at seasons end, the 2026 Cardinals are going to need a reliable veteran in the pen'.
BTW, Maton's never made more than $3.495M AAV so he won't cost more than a $3M (now) AAV.
Wait and it could be another A. Kittridge situation where you lose a standout setup man.
This is why you don't jump the gun on signing relievers. They rise and fall and only the special few actually are consistent and injury free.
Maton wanted to play for the Cards, I'm sure he still will when the season ends...as long as the Cards want him back.![]()
Fluke injury, not arm related.

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Re: Phil Maton
Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 16:06 pmAn injured fluke is nothing to mess with.rockondlouie wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 14:49 pmHurt his knee in STingscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 14:07 pmLOL... isn't Kittredge injured?rockondlouie wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 14:02 pmAgreedTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 10:20 amPossibly, but the earlier you can make a decision, the less it will cost. Figuring out a direction also informs decisions made at the trade deadline.
And I don't see it being to "early" either given Maton's resume:
2023 - 2025
148 G
3.12 ERA
1.08 WHiP
So you know what he can do w/that track record.
With Helsley's departure mid season or at seasons end, the 2026 Cardinals are going to need a reliable veteran in the pen'.
BTW, Maton's never made more than $3.495M AAV so he won't cost more than a $3M (now) AAV.
Wait and it could be another A. Kittridge situation where you lose a standout setup man.
This is why you don't jump the gun on signing relievers. They rise and fall and only the special few actually are consistent and injury free.
Maton wanted to play for the Cards, I'm sure he still will when the season ends...as long as the Cards want him back.![]()
Fluke injury, not arm related.

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Re: Phil Maton
Leahy already does that for us. I think Romero is OK. It gets shaky after that.
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Re: Phil Maton
He's injured...regardless of it's leg, or arm or head...rockondlouie wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 14:49 pmHurt his knee in STingscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 14:07 pmLOL... isn't Kittredge injured?rockondlouie wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 14:02 pmAgreedTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 10:20 amPossibly, but the earlier you can make a decision, the less it will cost. Figuring out a direction also informs decisions made at the trade deadline.
And I don't see it being to "early" either given Maton's resume:
2023 - 2025
148 G
3.12 ERA
1.08 WHiP
So you know what he can do w/that track record.
With Helsley's departure mid season or at seasons end, the 2026 Cardinals are going to need a reliable veteran in the pen'.
BTW, Maton's never made more than $3.495M AAV so he won't cost more than a $3M (now) AAV.
Wait and it could be another A. Kittridge situation where you lose a standout setup man.
This is why you don't jump the gun on signing relievers. They rise and fall and only the special few actually are consistent and injury free.
Maton wanted to play for the Cards, I'm sure he still will when the season ends...as long as the Cards want him back.![]()
Fluke injury, not arm related.
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Re: Phil Maton
Good news is Maton isn't Kitt so.........apples to oranges...........meaningless what happened to Kitt this spring and his artho scoped knee.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2025 08:43 amHe's injured...regardless of it's leg, or arm or head...rockondlouie wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 14:49 pmHurt his knee in STingscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 14:07 pmLOL... isn't Kittredge injured?rockondlouie wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 14:02 pmAgreedTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025 10:20 amPossibly, but the earlier you can make a decision, the less it will cost. Figuring out a direction also informs decisions made at the trade deadline.
And I don't see it being to "early" either given Maton's resume:
2023 - 2025
148 G
3.12 ERA
1.08 WHiP
So you know what he can do w/that track record.
With Helsley's departure mid season or at seasons end, the 2026 Cardinals are going to need a reliable veteran in the pen'.
BTW, Maton's never made more than $3.495M AAV so he won't cost more than a $3M (now) AAV.
Wait and it could be another A. Kittridge situation where you lose a standout setup man.
This is why you don't jump the gun on signing relievers. They rise and fall and only the special few actually are consistent and injury free.
Maton wanted to play for the Cards, I'm sure he still will when the season ends...as long as the Cards want him back.![]()
Fluke injury, not arm related.
BTW, threw a bullpen session on April 12th.
I'd definitely try to re-up Maton, the sooner the better.
JMO