Will Pallante be a Cardinal Ace, or a league Ace.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

Has has several good games before this year. Currently, 2-0, tied for fifth. 2.20 era-23rd., 1.04 whip-28th.

16.1 innings, 10 hits 4 runs 4 ER 2 HR 7 BB 13 K.

His issue is walks. Almost one wvery two innings. A pitch to contact ground ball machine.

Can he be league level, or Cardinal level Ace.

Thoughts.

[Alex Reyes Cy Young]

Cards

[imadangman]

Can he pitch 180 innings with a 1.05 whip and a 4/1 SO/walk ratio or better

[rockondlouie]

Neither

Solid #3, perhaps upside to #2 if he has another good 2025 but never will be a "league" Ace.

And as long as S. Gray's here, then he's the Cardinals "Ace".

[An Old Friend]

Good morning.

Has has several good games before this year. Currently, 2-0, tied for fifth. 2.20 era-23rd., 1.04 whip-28th.

16.1 innings, 10 hits 4 runs 4 ER 2 HR 7 BB 13 K.

His issue is walks. Almost one wvery two innings. A pitch to contact ground ball machine.

Can he be league level, or Cardinal level Ace.

Thoughts.

I think more of a 3 but he’s spent a lot of time in the lab to get there, so kudos to him for working for it.

He doesn’t look like a guy with strong enough command or bat missing ability to profile higher than that, but he’s also still young enough to continue to develop his stuff.

I think the team needs 2-3 better than him to be competing for flags.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Can he pitch 180 innings with a 1.05 whip and a 4/1 SO/walk ratio or better

Projected at 200 innings. Current 1.04 whip- needs to lower BB. No his Bb/K is about 1:2.

[scoutyjones2]

Wake me when he does it for a year. I never see him being an Ace...he will pitch very good games and not very good games.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

Has has several good games before this year. Currently, 2-0, tied for fifth. 2.20 era-23rd., 1.04 whip-28th.

16.1 innings, 10 hits 4 runs 4 ER 2 HR 7 BB 13 K.

His issue is walks. Almost one wvery two innings. A pitch to contact ground ball machine.

Can he be league level, or Cardinal level Ace.

Thoughts.

I think more of a 3 but he’s spent a lot of time in the lab to get there, so kudos to him for working for it.

He doesn’t look like a guy with strong enough command or bat missing ability to profile higher than that, but he’s also still young enough to continue to develop his stuff.

I think the team needs 2-3 better than him to be competing for flags.

Well written. Remember he has thrown several good to great games before this season. I think he is a day away from greatness.

Yes need a couple more.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Wake me when he does it for a year. I never see him being an Ace...he will pitch very good games and not very good games.

Prior to this year he has several good starts. The ability is there spread out over several years.

[imadangman]

Can he pitch 180 innings with a 1.05 whip and a 4/1 SO/walk ratio or better

Projected at 200 innings. Current 1.04 whip- needs to lower BB. No his Bb/K is about 1:2.

That's my statistical rubric of an ace. But for future planning purposes I think what a contending rotation really needs is like 3 starters who can combine for a 1.20 whip or so over 500-550 innings. Cards have a lot of intriguing young arms. There's also a lot of innings to cover.

[hugeCardfan]

Good morning.

Has has several good games before this year. Currently, 2-0, tied for fifth. 2.20 era-23rd., 1.04 whip-28th.

16.1 innings, 10 hits 4 runs 4 ER 2 HR 7 BB 13 K.

His issue is walks. Almost one wvery two innings. A pitch to contact ground ball machine.

Can he be league level, or Cardinal level Ace.

Thoughts.

I think more of a 3 but he’s spent a lot of time in the lab to get there, so kudos to him for working for it.

He doesn’t look like a guy with strong enough command or bat missing ability to profile higher than that, but he’s also still young enough to continue to develop his stuff.

I think the team needs 2-3 better than him to be competing for flags.

Pallante has pitched more consistently than both Gray and Fedde and he's the first to give us 7 innings...shutout to boot. I'd say he'll be fine as our #3 and may well gravitate to #2 by next year. Those 7 innings were versus the Phillies, one of the 2 best hitting teams we've faced.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

Has has several good games before this year. Currently, 2-0, tied for fifth. 2.20 era-23rd., 1.04 whip-28th.

16.1 innings, 10 hits 4 runs 4 ER 2 HR 7 BB 13 K.

His issue is walks. Almost one wvery two innings. A pitch to contact ground ball machine.

Can he be league level, or Cardinal level Ace.

Thoughts.

I think more of a 3 but he’s spent a lot of time in the lab to get there, so kudos to him for working for it.

He doesn’t look like a guy with strong enough command or bat missing ability to profile higher than that, but he’s also still young enough to continue to develop his stuff.

I think the team needs 2-3 better than him to be competing for flags.

Pallante has pitched more consistently than both Gray and Fedde and he's the first to give us 7 innings...shutout to boot. I'd say he'll be fine as our #3 and may well gravitate to #2 by next year. Those 7 innings were versus the Phillies, one of the 2 best hitting teams we've faced.

As you mention two better hitting teams, the other Boston where he gave up only four hits. The three BB did him in.

[An Old Friend]

Good morning.

Has has several good games before this year. Currently, 2-0, tied for fifth. 2.20 era-23rd., 1.04 whip-28th.

16.1 innings, 10 hits 4 runs 4 ER 2 HR 7 BB 13 K.

His issue is walks. Almost one wvery two innings. A pitch to contact ground ball machine.

Can he be league level, or Cardinal level Ace.

Thoughts.

I think more of a 3 but he’s spent a lot of time in the lab to get there, so kudos to him for working for it.

He doesn’t look like a guy with strong enough command or bat missing ability to profile higher than that, but he’s also still young enough to continue to develop his stuff.

I think the team needs 2-3 better than him to be competing for flags.

Pallante has pitched more consistently than both Gray and Fedde and he's the first to give us 7 innings...shutout to boot. I'd say he'll be fine as our #3 and may well gravitate to #2 by next year. Those 7 innings were versus the Phillies, one of the 2 best hitting teams we've faced.

BABIP of .182… benefiting from some good fortune, the expected average on his fastball is near .300 but actual is only like .175

Results / outcomes are noisy in small samples.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

Has has several good games before this year. Currently, 2-0, tied for fifth. 2.20 era-23rd., 1.04 whip-28th.

16.1 innings, 10 hits 4 runs 4 ER 2 HR 7 BB 13 K.

His issue is walks. Almost one wvery two innings. A pitch to contact ground ball machine.

Can he be league level, or Cardinal level Ace.

Thoughts.

I think more of a 3 but he’s spent a lot of time in the lab to get there, so kudos to him for working for it.

He doesn’t look like a guy with strong enough command or bat missing ability to profile higher than that, but he’s also still young enough to continue to develop his stuff.

I think the team needs 2-3 better than him to be competing for flags.

Pallante has pitched more consistently than both Gray and Fedde and he's the first to give us 7 innings...shutout to boot. I'd say he'll be fine as our #3 and may well gravitate to #2 by next year. Those 7 innings were versus the Phillies, one of the 2 best hitting teams we've faced.

BABIP of .182… benefiting from some good fortune, the expected average on his fastball is near .300 but actual is only like .175

Results / outcomes are noisy in small samples.

Small samples are noisy but can be accurate to several other degrees. You’d think in small samples ratios and standard deviations would still show clean correlations.

[cardsfaninla]

Ball four ... aka .. Strike three

Mikolas hasn't been great ... but that pitch call didn't help.

[An Old Friend]

Good morning.

Has has several good games before this year. Currently, 2-0, tied for fifth. 2.20 era-23rd., 1.04 whip-28th.

16.1 innings, 10 hits 4 runs 4 ER 2 HR 7 BB 13 K.

His issue is walks. Almost one wvery two innings. A pitch to contact ground ball machine.

Can he be league level, or Cardinal level Ace.

Thoughts.

I think more of a 3 but he’s spent a lot of time in the lab to get there, so kudos to him for working for it.

He doesn’t look like a guy with strong enough command or bat missing ability to profile higher than that, but he’s also still young enough to continue to develop his stuff.

I think the team needs 2-3 better than him to be competing for flags.

Pallante has pitched more consistently than both Gray and Fedde and he's the first to give us 7 innings...shutout to boot. I'd say he'll be fine as our #3 and may well gravitate to #2 by next year. Those 7 innings were versus the Phillies, one of the 2 best hitting teams we've faced.

BABIP of .182… benefiting from some good fortune, the expected average on his fastball is near .300 but actual is only like .175

Results / outcomes are noisy in small samples.

Small samples are noisy but can be accurate to several other degrees. You’d think in small samples ratios and standard deviations would still show clean correlations.

No pitcher has the ability to suppress average on balls in play to that degree.