Intentional walk to Noot to get to Contreras should tell us ..

[ramfandan]

... a couple things :

1) how much Contreras has fallen off the cliff .. In 2024, no manager in his right mind would rather have WillyCon in the batters box over Noot.
Willson hit .244 with .848 OPS while Noot hit .244 with .759

2) Seeing the opposition walking our hot hitting leadoff guy(.302 hitter) should also send a signal to our manager that a player not named Contreras (.095) should be slotted in the No. 2 hole when the next four hitters in the lineup have .395, .342, .278, .304, and .297 averages.

The opposition managers must be smiling when they face the Cardinals ( highest batting avg. in the MLB at the start of the day ) and see a .095 batting average guy in the top of our lineup. It's a definite flaw in the batting order and teams not only exploited it today but will in the future too.

[RunSup]

I'm glad they walked him. Oli get a clue.

Contreras needs to be hitting way down in the lineup if he just doesn't get a few days off. He's not right.

His one hit today was the pop up collision at the plate. Not exactly a rocket.

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/778389/play/53

[12xu]

I'm glad they walked him. Oli get a clue.

Contreras needs to be hitting way down in the lineup if he just doesn't get a few days off. He's not right.

His one hit today was the pop up collision at the plate. Not exactly a rocket.

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/778389/play/53

and that "hit" should have been ruled an error.

[ramfandan]

I'm glad they walked him. Oli get a clue.

Contreras needs to be hitting way down in the lineup if he just doesn't get a few days off. He's not right.

His one hit today was the pop up collision at the plate. Not exactly a rocket.

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/778389/play/53

and that "hit" should have been ruled an error.

Who would you have given the error to if you were the scorer ?

[ilcubuffs]

More importantly, IF MO Ran had a brain, he would realize that the opposition(s) scouts and manager are smarter than YOUR manager. IF MO Ran was smart he would replace Marmot and Blake, cus obviously, they are utterly predictable.

[Shady]

The Pirates wouldn't have walked Nootbaar to get to Donovan or Burleson. Unless they had a very good LH reliever pitching or available. But not a RHP. I don't think it made them any difference whether RHP or LHP to get to Contreras, right now.

[Handsomebachelor]

It freaking sucks as he was supposed to be the "star" player essentially. Then season starts and he doesn't even show up. I hear from the announcers all the time about he's struggling but we know he will come around. Well when at this point lol. He's been up many times in game changing situations man and couldn't come through.

Crazy how the offense has still been dropping so many runs. We should have one of the best records in the league. Hitters have to be frustrated after that last game, after carrying all season, the pitching couldn't get that shutout to win it.

[Detroit Louie]

Contreras will eventually come around. The question is how best to get him there while minimizing damage to the line-up. Keeping him at #2 in the line-up isn’t working. And now is damaging. He needs a couple of days rest to reset, and at the least, a move further down the order. When he’s back to Contreras damage mode, bring him back to #2.

[okcardfan]

Contreras needs to sit for a little while. Give Luken Baker three or four games in a row, at the expense of Contreras or Burleson. Baker has a pretty good eye and fairly low strikeouts, so he's not an automatic out like Contreras is right now.
Now is the time to find out what we have in Luken Baker. After all, why not give him a real shot?

[sikeston bulldog2]

Tells me the league knows as much or more about his plight. Once the league gets a solid book on you, it can be heck.

[82birds]

since Oli won't give him a day off, at least the schedule gets him a day off.

[rockondlouie]

The Pirates wouldn't have walked Nootbaar to get to Donovan or Burleson. Unless they had a very good LH reliever pitching or available. But not a RHP. I don't think it made them any difference whether RHP or LHP to get to Contreras, right now.

Bumbles?

He of the .660 OPS?

The Bison who's 0 for 4 w/two outs and RISP this season?

Yes, they would've walked Noot to pitch to your guy.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Another thought. No matter the position in the order, they may walk or pitch around the hitter ahead of Willi. So put your worst hitter in front of Contreas. Chances are he will not get pitched around, maybe giving that batter a better selection.