Snuggerud So Far

[John Cocktoastin]

It's kind of a funny observation to me how much hype surrounds him - it seems like he's being treated like a top 5 pick, but he was #23. Bolduc was #17 and I don't recall the same kind of hype around him. But also just a random thought - Blues drafted Neighbours in 2020, Bolduc in 2021, and Snuggerud in 2022. It sure looks like they're going to hit on all three.

To your question though - his shot looks really dangerous. The shot he had on Talbot sounded like it might go through Talbot's chest and into the goal. I think Monty has been using him wisely too. I think he's looked good. As bud white mentioned, it looks like other teams may be respecting his shot quite a bit, I think that's how Buch got so wide open on his goal in the Avalanche game.

Not sure about too much hype but I think his decision to stay at Minnesota (where he was a star) another year brought on a lot of focus and attention to him, certainly so here on this board.

I won't call him seasoned but he seems to be fitting right into things so kudos to him and the Blues.

Well, I think there's more hype than there was around Bolduc & Neighbours. Just the fan reaction to his first game, the player reactions when he got his first assist, the camera time he's gotten during the broadcasts - I just don't recall the same for Bolduc & Neighbours. Maybe my memory is just hazy though.

I think you are spot on. JS looks like a significant addition but the hype is borderline out of control. Neighbors and Bolduc did not get the same welcome and/or attention for their arrival as Snuggerud has. Would prefer the fans and media just let the guy get acclimated to the NHL and enjoy his first goal before anointing him as the next star. Let him earn it - I don't think it will take long before he starts finding the back of the net. Super exciting seeing him follow Jake and ZB as 1st rounders making a difference at the NHL level.

The hype by fans have zero effect on the player. Snuggerud appears to be doing all the right things, and the vets on the team are supporting him just like they support any young player who joins the team. Fans have a reason to be excited, but their excitement and hype is irrelevant as far as players are concerned. Unless those players read this forum...

There are a lot of very informative and excellent posters on this forum...but enough others that Man I hope they do NOT read this forum. I am making an educated guess that their indoctrination urges them not to read and pay attention to these types of things. They are probably so focused on reviewing film, discussing with coaches and urged to step back, or into a different outlet during their free time?

This 100%! If I were a betting man, which I'm not, and I had some extra money lying around, which I do not, I'd bet it all that they do not read this forum or just about any other similar outlet. Their focus is on hockey and winning games, not how much folks are praising or bashing them online.

Agree. I don't believe players read this forum.

Funny story though. When John Davidson was GM, I happened to cut him off at a four-way stop off of 141 in Town and Country. Totally by accident. He was not happy. He said some choice things while his window was down and then drove off. I sat there in disbelief that I almost caused an accident, then realized who I (upset) off. Had to laugh after that.

I posted on here about it and the next thing I know, his daughter posts on here to pass along an apology from him. Class move even though I was totally at fault.

Cool story, but I think you're wrong about this.
I think this place and HF boards absolutely get some traffic from the players. At minimum, I know there are a few former players lurking here under false names.
They probably don't post(for numerous reasons), but I think they lurk just to get a feel from the fan base.
I also know the Blues PR staff hire people to read sites like these so they know what to lean into with their marketing and merchandising and you know some of that gets passed on to the team.

Quite possible...

[MandatoryDenial]

Its hard for me to imgine that he isn’t meeting my expectations for a high impact rookie player during his first few games. The only thing that concerns me a bit is his size. He looks small not height wise but muscle wise. I hope they can help him strengthen his frame in the offseason.

[seattleblue]

I don't think it's a mystery why his hype is higher than Bolduc or others. (Particularly Bolduc who was drafted in a black box seemingly due to the covid years and whose NHL development has felt like activity under the surface of a lake that eventually emerges with force.)
The kid from Minnesota has the single sexiest tool in the hockey toolbox, a world class shot. This particular fan base remembers how fun that is with Hull & Tarasenko.
This is also three years into waiting to see it show up in the NHL to really see it make an impact.
AND fans are feeling only good about the team simultaneously, it is not a time of tempered reason. If they were in a 12 game losing streak but he looked like this, there would not be anywhere as much hype. Timing has a lot to do with it.
Due to the truly elite shot, fans reasonably and correctly think, "if the rest of his game is good, this could be a significant NHL player"
Due to the confidence he and the team are riding, it looks like he has the skills, so time will have to prove out the consistency of them. But we haven't seen him make the inevitable mistakes that are coming, it's a time of reckless projection.
It's a long awaited prospect who is genuinely exciting. If you think the hype is something now, wait til he starts picking corners from the top of the circles with laser wristers.

[DawgDad]

I don't think it's a mystery why his hype is higher than Bolduc or others. (Particularly Bolduc who was drafted in a black box seemingly due to the covid years and whose NHL development has felt like activity under the surface of a lake that eventually emerges with force.)
The kid from Minnesota has the single sexiest tool in the hockey toolbox, a world class shot. This particular fan base remembers how fun that is with Hull & Tarasenko.
This is also three years into waiting to see it show up in the NHL to really see it make an impact.
AND fans are feeling only good about the team simultaneously, it is not a time of tempered reason. If they were in a 12 game losing streak but he looked like this, there would not be anywhere as much hype. Timing has a lot to do with it.
Due to the truly elite shot, fans reasonably and correctly think, "if the rest of his game is good, this could be a significant NHL player"
Due to the confidence he and the team are riding, it looks like he has the skills, so time will have to prove out the consistency of them. But we haven't seen him make the inevitable mistakes that are coming, it's a time of reckless projection.
It's a long awaited prospect who is genuinely exciting. If you think the hype is something now, wait til he starts picking corners from the top of the circles with laser wristers.

For whatever reason the Blues have been very careful not to overexpose Bolduc. He tore up juniors, offensively, he wasn't hiding from anybody. What we see now is the emergence of a well-rounded young hockey player at the NHL level.

Thomas, Kyrou, Holloway, Neighbours, Bolduc, these guys are all blossoming into 200' trustworthy hockey players. The Blues seem to know what they are doing.

As for Snuggerud being dropped onto the top line, he's no stranger to playing top line go-to guy minutes in a winning environment. He's out there doing what he always has been doing, just at the NHL level now. He has raw talent that is holding him up in light of the adjustment to a harder, faster game. He's quick, he has plus hands and hockey sense, and he has THE SHOT. He's going to be fine. Remember Robbie Fabbri?

[seattleblue]

Oh now I remember one other thing from the Colorado feed. They were talking about Snuggy's potential and were talking how indeed actually good he looked, like he was going to be a real player for us. But they confidently and I mean confidently said his nickname was "Snuggsy"

I would have actually probably been in tears laughing if they'd said with that much confidence it was "Snuggsy Bogues," but alas they did not

33 months and there's been a lot of fun with the variants but never once heard "Snuggsy."
(As has been pointed out elsewhere the default nickname is Snuggy)

[dr0zombie]

I don't think it's a mystery why his hype is higher than Bolduc or others. (Particularly Bolduc who was drafted in a black box seemingly due to the covid years and whose NHL development has felt like activity under the surface of a lake that eventually emerges with force.)
The kid from Minnesota has the single sexiest tool in the hockey toolbox, a world class shot. This particular fan base remembers how fun that is with Hull & Tarasenko.
This is also three years into waiting to see it show up in the NHL to really see it make an impact.
AND fans are feeling only good about the team simultaneously, it is not a time of tempered reason. If they were in a 12 game losing streak but he looked like this, there would not be anywhere as much hype. Timing has a lot to do with it.
Due to the truly elite shot, fans reasonably and correctly think, "if the rest of his game is good, this could be a significant NHL player"
Due to the confidence he and the team are riding, it looks like he has the skills, so time will have to prove out the consistency of them. But we haven't seen him make the inevitable mistakes that are coming, it's a time of reckless projection.
It's a long awaited prospect who is genuinely exciting. If you think the hype is something now, wait til he starts picking corners from the top of the circles with laser wristers.

For whatever reason the Blues have been very careful not to overexpose Bolduc. He tore up juniors, offensively, he wasn't hiding from anybody. What we see now is the emergence of a well-rounded young hockey player at the NHL level.

Thomas, Kyrou, Holloway, Neighbours, Bolduc, these guys are all blossoming into 200' trustworthy hockey players. The Blues seem to know what they are doing.

As for Snuggerud being dropped onto the top line, he's no stranger to playing top line go-to guy minutes in a winning environment. He's out there doing what he always has been doing, just at the NHL level now. He has raw talent that is holding him up in light of the adjustment to a harder, faster game. He's quick, he has plus hands and hockey sense, and he has THE SHOT. He's going to be fine. Remember Robbie Fabbri?

I totally agree. The Blues seem to be very good at understanding what Bolduc needs versus what Neighbours or Snuggerud needs or whomever needs and what they can take stress wise. I have been really amazed at how well the team seems to align opportunity to what the players needs. With Army leaving I do wonder if that is him or just who in the organization is this good at figuring out the player growth path and aligning them to that path.

[TBone]

Funny story though. When John Davidson was GM, I happened to cut him off at a four-way stop off of 141 in Town and Country. Totally by accident. He was not happy. He said some choice things while his window was down and then drove off. I sat there in disbelief that I almost caused an accident, then realized who I (upset) off. Had to laugh after that.

I posted on here about it and the next thing I know, his daughter posts on here to pass along an apology from him. Class move even though I was totally at fault.

I'm guessing he wasn't saying "Come grow with us"?

[John Cocktoastin]

Funny story though. When John Davidson was GM, I happened to cut him off at a four-way stop off of 141 in Town and Country. Totally by accident. He was not happy. He said some choice things while his window was down and then drove off. I sat there in disbelief that I almost caused an accident, then realized who I (upset) off. Had to laugh after that.

I posted on here about it and the next thing I know, his daughter posts on here to pass along an apology from him. Class move even though I was totally at fault.

I'm guessing he wasn't saying "Come grow with us"?

No, TBone. But it was great in hindsight. Again, I appreciated the apology but always felt I owed him one.

[Meathead]

It's kind of a funny observation to me how much hype surrounds him - it seems like he's being treated like a top 5 pick, but he was #23. Bolduc was #17 and I don't recall the same kind of hype around him. But also just a random thought - Blues drafted Neighbours in 2020, Bolduc in 2021, and Snuggerud in 2022. It sure looks like they're going to hit on all three.

To your question though - his shot looks really dangerous. The shot he had on Talbot sounded like it might go through Talbot's chest and into the goal. I think Monty has been using him wisely too. I think he's looked good. As bud white mentioned, it looks like other teams may be respecting his shot quite a bit, I think that's how Buch got so wide open on his goal in the Avalanche game.

Not sure about too much hype but I think his decision to stay at Minnesota (where he was a star) another year brought on a lot of focus and attention to him, certainly so here on this board.

I won't call him seasoned but he seems to be fitting right into things so kudos to him and the Blues.

Well, I think there's more hype than there was around Bolduc & Neighbours. Just the fan reaction to his first game, the player reactions when he got his first assist, the camera time he's gotten during the broadcasts - I just don't recall the same for Bolduc & Neighbours. Maybe my memory is just hazy though.

I think you are spot on. JS looks like a significant addition but the hype is borderline out of control. Neighbors and Bolduc did not get the same welcome and/or attention for their arrival as Snuggerud has. Would prefer the fans and media just let the guy get acclimated to the NHL and enjoy his first goal before anointing him as the next star. Let him earn it - I don't think it will take long before he starts finding the back of the net. Super exciting seeing him follow Jake and ZB as 1st rounders making a difference at the NHL level.

The hype by fans have zero effect on the player. Snuggerud appears to be doing all the right things, and the vets on the team are supporting him just like they support any young player who joins the team. Fans have a reason to be excited, but their excitement and hype is irrelevant as far as players are concerned. Unless those players read this forum...

There are a lot of very informative and excellent posters on this forum...but enough others that Man I hope they do NOT read this forum. I am making an educated guess that their indoctrination urges them not to read and pay attention to these types of things. They are probably so focused on reviewing film, discussing with coaches and urged to step back, or into a different outlet during their free time?

This 100%! If I were a betting man, which I'm not, and I had some extra money lying around, which I do not, I'd bet it all that they do not read this forum or just about any other similar outlet. Their focus is on hockey and winning games, not how much folks are praising or bashing them online.

Agree. I don't believe players read this forum.

Funny story though. When John Davidson was GM, I happened to cut him off at a four-way stop off of 141 in Town and Country. Totally by accident. He was not happy. He said some choice things while his window was down and then drove off. I sat there in disbelief that I almost caused an accident, then realized who I (upset) off. Had to laugh after that.

I posted on here about it and the next thing I know, his daughter posts on here to pass along an apology from him. Class move even though I was totally at fault.

Cool story, but I think you're wrong about this.
I think this place and HF boards absolutely get some traffic from the players. At minimum, I know there are a few former players lurking here under false names.
They probably don't post(for numerous reasons), but I think they lurk just to get a feel from the fan base.
I also know the Blues PR staff hire people to read sites like these so they know what to lean into with their marketing and merchandising and you know some of that gets passed on to the team.

Former players wouldn't post anonymously on an Internet forum, no?

[Harry York 37]

I don't think it's a mystery why his hype is higher than Bolduc or others. (Particularly Bolduc who was drafted in a black box seemingly due to the covid years and whose NHL development has felt like activity under the surface of a lake that eventually emerges with force.)
The kid from Minnesota has the single sexiest tool in the hockey toolbox, a world class shot. This particular fan base remembers how fun that is with Hull & Tarasenko.
This is also three years into waiting to see it show up in the NHL to really see it make an impact.
AND fans are feeling only good about the team simultaneously, it is not a time of tempered reason. If they were in a 12 game losing streak but he looked like this, there would not be anywhere as much hype. Timing has a lot to do with it.
Due to the truly elite shot, fans reasonably and correctly think, "if the rest of his game is good, this could be a significant NHL player"
Due to the confidence he and the team are riding, it looks like he has the skills, so time will have to prove out the consistency of them. But we haven't seen him make the inevitable mistakes that are coming, it's a time of reckless projection.
It's a long awaited prospect who is genuinely exciting. If you think the hype is something now, wait til he starts picking corners from the top of the circles with laser wristers.

It is probably worth mentioning, once again, his insane ice hockey pedigree.
On both sides….

His Dad has a heck of a career internationally and played 265 NHL Games.

His Mom’s Old Man played in the 1964 Olympics and still plays beer league, or geritol league hockey at 88.


Jimmy Snuggerud was born to play NHL Hockey.

[Army's Mom]

It's kind of a funny observation to me how much hype surrounds him - it seems like he's being treated like a top 5 pick, but he was #23. Bolduc was #17 and I don't recall the same kind of hype around him. But also just a random thought - Blues drafted Neighbours in 2020, Bolduc in 2021, and Snuggerud in 2022. It sure looks like they're going to hit on all three.

To your question though - his shot looks really dangerous. The shot he had on Talbot sounded like it might go through Talbot's chest and into the goal. I think Monty has been using him wisely too. I think he's looked good. As bud white mentioned, it looks like other teams may be respecting his shot quite a bit, I think that's how Buch got so wide open on his goal in the Avalanche game.

Not sure about too much hype but I think his decision to stay at Minnesota (where he was a star) another year brought on a lot of focus and attention to him, certainly so here on this board.

I won't call him seasoned but he seems to be fitting right into things so kudos to him and the Blues.

Well, I think there's more hype than there was around Bolduc & Neighbours. Just the fan reaction to his first game, the player reactions when he got his first assist, the camera time he's gotten during the broadcasts - I just don't recall the same for Bolduc & Neighbours. Maybe my memory is just hazy though.

I think you are spot on. JS looks like a significant addition but the hype is borderline out of control. Neighbors and Bolduc did not get the same welcome and/or attention for their arrival as Snuggerud has. Would prefer the fans and media just let the guy get acclimated to the NHL and enjoy his first goal before anointing him as the next star. Let him earn it - I don't think it will take long before he starts finding the back of the net. Super exciting seeing him follow Jake and ZB as 1st rounders making a difference at the NHL level.

The hype by fans have zero effect on the player. Snuggerud appears to be doing all the right things, and the vets on the team are supporting him just like they support any young player who joins the team. Fans have a reason to be excited, but their excitement and hype is irrelevant as far as players are concerned. Unless those players read this forum...

There are a lot of very informative and excellent posters on this forum...but enough others that Man I hope they do NOT read this forum. I am making an educated guess that their indoctrination urges them not to read and pay attention to these types of things. They are probably so focused on reviewing film, discussing with coaches and urged to step back, or into a different outlet during their free time?

This 100%! If I were a betting man, which I'm not, and I had some extra money lying around, which I do not, I'd bet it all that they do not read this forum or just about any other similar outlet. Their focus is on hockey and winning games, not how much folks are praising or bashing them online.

Agree. I don't believe players read this forum.

Funny story though. When John Davidson was GM, I happened to cut him off at a four-way stop off of 141 in Town and Country. Totally by accident. He was not happy. He said some choice things while his window was down and then drove off. I sat there in disbelief that I almost caused an accident, then realized who I (upset) off. Had to laugh after that.

I posted on here about it and the next thing I know, his daughter posts on here to pass along an apology from him. Class move even though I was totally at fault.

Cool story, but I think you're wrong about this.
I think this place and HF boards absolutely get some traffic from the players. At minimum, I know there are a few former players lurking here under false names.
They probably don't post(for numerous reasons), but I think they lurk just to get a feel from the fan base.
I also know the Blues PR staff hire people to read sites like these so they know what to lean into with their marketing and merchandising and you know some of that gets passed on to the team.

Quite possible...

No idea if the Blues operate this way, but I assume all sports teams do by this point. I know someone who worked in comms/media who started a business serving as a social media buffer for teams - the Cards have employed her firm for several years now. Basically, they have a list of social media they scour, which they then report to management. They also provide training to players to keep them from causing scandals (could you just imagine the Shanahan affair in the era of social media?), and some light PR when things do happen.

TLDR: teams follow these sites to serve as a buffer between players and the social media public.