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There is a surplus of hitters finally showing life. Actually more than there are starting spots. Move some of it for a TOR SP. other than Hence (IL) and Matthew’s none project as a top 3 rotational starter. Use someone to acquire one. Who out of Gorman Walker Nootbar Donovan Hererra Wetherholt Segesse Burelson Winn Pages Scott etc are they willing to move? Clearly there are too many (11 just on that list) to play everyday by end of season and young players should not be relegated to bench duties. Package one with a AAA middle of the rotation for an upgrade.
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Which of the names you list land an elite SP?
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Absolut wrote: 06 Apr 2025 20:06 pm Which of the names you list land an elite SP?
McGreevy + one of that list one of that list would come close. That’s what I proposed. Wetherholt Walker Winn for sure would return a TOR SP
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Speaking of bats, can we equip our entire team with the torpedo bats immediately?
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Youboughtit wrote: 06 Apr 2025 20:05 pm There is a surplus of hitters finally showing life. Actually more than there are starting spots. Move some of it for a TOR SP. other than Hence (IL) and Matthew’s none project as a top 3 rotational starter. Use someone to acquire one. Who out of Gorman Walker Nootbar Donovan Hererra Wetherholt Segesse Burelson Winn Pages Scott etc are they willing to move? Clearly there are too many (11 just on that list) to play everyday by end of season and young players should not be relegated to bench duties. Package one with a AAA middle of the rotation for an upgrade.
Lol... 8 games in and your saying there's a surplus? LMAO
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Youboughtit wrote: 06 Apr 2025 20:05 pm There is a surplus of hitters finally showing life. Actually more than there are starting spots. Move some of it for a TOR SP. other than Hence (IL) and Matthew’s none project as a top 3 rotational starter. Use someone to acquire one. Who out of Gorman Walker Nootbar Donovan Hererra Wetherholt Segesse Burelson Winn Pages Scott etc are they willing to move? Clearly there are too many (11 just on that list) to play everyday by end of season and young players should not be relegated to bench duties. Package one with a AAA middle of the rotation for an upgrade.
One of those names just went on the IL, another is in AA. Another left today’s game injured. Pages ain’t bringing you an ace unless he’s packaged with Mathew’s. So now you’re down to 7 names.
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Youboughtit wrote: 06 Apr 2025 20:05 pm There is a surplus of hitters finally showing life. Actually more than there are starting spots. Move some of it for a TOR SP. other than Hence (IL) and Matthew’s none project as a top 3 rotational starter. Use someone to acquire one. Who out of Gorman Walker Nootbar Donovan Hererra Wetherholt Segesse Burelson Winn Pages Scott etc are they willing to move? Clearly there are too many (11 just on that list) to play everyday by end of season and young players should not be relegated to bench duties. Package one with a AAA middle of the rotation for an upgrade.
Good thoughts but you are NOT getting an elite SP for what the Cards have to deal.
Unless....they grossly overpay in younger talent in which case they will pay for it with their lineup.
They might be able to pry a solid starter away from the Mariners?
Otherwise:
*Keep pitching Pallante-I like his stuff. Needs to walk less hitters!
*Fedde??-If he has a solid season he might be worth holding onto for reasonable $$
*Not sure how much Gray has left?
*Libby gets a final shot
*McGreevy next then probably Mathews?
*Graceffo, Hence, Roby, etc to follow later

Mikolas and Matz are obviously toast.
Time will tell??
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Absolut wrote: 06 Apr 2025 20:06 pm Which of the names you list land an elite SP?
I think he was talking about wood bats
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Cusecards wrote: 06 Apr 2025 20:25 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 06 Apr 2025 20:05 pm There is a surplus of hitters finally showing life. Actually more than there are starting spots. Move some of it for a TOR SP. other than Hence (IL) and Matthew’s none project as a top 3 rotational starter. Use someone to acquire one. Who out of Gorman Walker Nootbar Donovan Hererra Wetherholt Segesse Burelson Winn Pages Scott etc are they willing to move? Clearly there are too many (11 just on that list) to play everyday by end of season and young players should not be relegated to bench duties. Package one with a AAA middle of the rotation for an upgrade.
Good thoughts but you are NOT getting an elite SP for what the Cards have to deal.
Unless....they grossly overpay in younger talent in which case they will pay for it with their lineup.
They might be able to pry a solid starter away from the Mariners?
Otherwise:
*Keep pitching Pallante-I like his stuff. Needs to walk less hitters!
*Fedde??-If he has a solid season he might be worth holding onto for reasonable $$
*Not sure how much Gray has left?
*Libby gets a final shot
*McGreevy next then probably Mathews?
*Graceffo, Hence, Roby, etc to follow later

Mikolas and Matz are obviously toast.
Time will tell??
So you beleive when Gray is gone

Pallante
Libertore
McGreevy
Matthews
Hence

Is a winning formula? I disagree.
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Youboughtit wrote: 06 Apr 2025 20:39 pm
Cusecards wrote: 06 Apr 2025 20:25 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 06 Apr 2025 20:05 pm There is a surplus of hitters finally showing life. Actually more than there are starting spots. Move some of it for a TOR SP. other than Hence (IL) and Matthew’s none project as a top 3 rotational starter. Use someone to acquire one. Who out of Gorman Walker Nootbar Donovan Hererra Wetherholt Segesse Burelson Winn Pages Scott etc are they willing to move? Clearly there are too many (11 just on that list) to play everyday by end of season and young players should not be relegated to bench duties. Package one with a AAA middle of the rotation for an upgrade.
Good thoughts but you are NOT getting an elite SP for what the Cards have to deal.
Unless....they grossly overpay in younger talent in which case they will pay for it with their lineup.
They might be able to pry a solid starter away from the Mariners?
Otherwise:
*Keep pitching Pallante-I like his stuff. Needs to walk less hitters!
*Fedde??-If he has a solid season he might be worth holding onto for reasonable $$
*Not sure how much Gray has left?
*Libby gets a final shot
*McGreevy next then probably Mathews?
*Graceffo, Hence, Roby, etc to follow later

Mikolas and Matz are obviously toast.
Time will tell??
So you beleive when Gray is gone

Pallante
Libertore
McGreevy
Matthews
Hence

Is a winning formula? I disagree.
Didn’t say it projects as a winning formula.
Too soon to tell and you are correct that they should be looking to move position players for pitching.
Just don’t see them landing an elite starter.
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Who has young controllable tor pitching to spare?? Seattle maybe but they have some pitching injuries and no depth to spare. You might get maybe Able from the Phillies as he is back to pitching like the top prospect he once was. The best way to get good young pitchers is to draft them and develop them. It’s going to be several years for that to happen and see the rewards.
The quickest path would be to trade for comp picks. Baltimore has two, KC has one and Seattle has one that they might be willing to move.
Seattle might have lost Robles for a while and will need an outfielder. Trade Nootbar for a top 100 prospect and the comp pick. Opens left field for Donovan and second base for Gorman.
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sdaltons wrote: 06 Apr 2025 20:18 pm Speaking of bats, can we equip our entire team with the torpedo bats immediately?
IIRC, Donovan has been using something similar for a year or two.
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Cusecards wrote: 06 Apr 2025 20:47 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 06 Apr 2025 20:39 pm
Cusecards wrote: 06 Apr 2025 20:25 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 06 Apr 2025 20:05 pm There is a surplus of hitters finally showing life. Actually more than there are starting spots. Move some of it for a TOR SP. other than Hence (IL) and Matthew’s none project as a top 3 rotational starter. Use someone to acquire one. Who out of Gorman Walker Nootbar Donovan Hererra Wetherholt Segesse Burelson Winn Pages Scott etc are they willing to move? Clearly there are too many (11 just on that list) to play everyday by end of season and young players should not be relegated to bench duties. Package one with a AAA middle of the rotation for an upgrade.
Good thoughts but you are NOT getting an elite SP for what the Cards have to deal.
Unless....they grossly overpay in younger talent in which case they will pay for it with their lineup.
They might be able to pry a solid starter away from the Mariners?
Otherwise:
*Keep pitching Pallante-I like his stuff. Needs to walk less hitters!
*Fedde??-If he has a solid season he might be worth holding onto for reasonable $$
*Not sure how much Gray has left?
*Libby gets a final shot
*McGreevy next then probably Mathews?
*Graceffo, Hence, Roby, etc to follow later

Mikolas and Matz are obviously toast.
Time will tell??
So you beleive when Gray is gone

Pallante
Libertore
McGreevy
Matthews
Hence

Is a winning formula? I disagree.
Didn’t say it projects as a winning formula.
Too soon to tell and you are correct that they should be looking to move position players for pitching.
Just don’t see them landing an elite starter.
Trade for one from a team that doesn't want to pay the $$$. Heck, Skenes might be available in a year and a half after the new labor agreement gives arb1 players near market rates - and we know they won't want to pay
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Carp4Cy wrote: 06 Apr 2025 21:01 pm
Cusecards wrote: 06 Apr 2025 20:47 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 06 Apr 2025 20:39 pm
Cusecards wrote: 06 Apr 2025 20:25 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 06 Apr 2025 20:05 pm There is a surplus of hitters finally showing life. Actually more than there are starting spots. Move some of it for a TOR SP. other than Hence (IL) and Matthew’s none project as a top 3 rotational starter. Use someone to acquire one. Who out of Gorman Walker Nootbar Donovan Hererra Wetherholt Segesse Burelson Winn Pages Scott etc are they willing to move? Clearly there are too many (11 just on that list) to play everyday by end of season and young players should not be relegated to bench duties. Package one with a AAA middle of the rotation for an upgrade.
Good thoughts but you are NOT getting an elite SP for what the Cards have to deal.
Unless....they grossly overpay in younger talent in which case they will pay for it with their lineup.
They might be able to pry a solid starter away from the Mariners?
Otherwise:
*Keep pitching Pallante-I like his stuff. Needs to walk less hitters!
*Fedde??-If he has a solid season he might be worth holding onto for reasonable $$
*Not sure how much Gray has left?
*Libby gets a final shot
*McGreevy next then probably Mathews?
*Graceffo, Hence, Roby, etc to follow later

Mikolas and Matz are obviously toast.
Time will tell??
So you beleive when Gray is gone

Pallante
Libertore
McGreevy
Matthews
Hence

Is a winning formula? I disagree.
Didn’t say it projects as a winning formula.
Too soon to tell and you are correct that they should be looking to move position players for pitching.
Just don’t see them landing an elite starter.
Trade for one from a team that doesn't want to pay the $$$. Heck, Skenes might be available in a year and a half after the new labor agreement gives arb1 players near market rates - and we know they won't want to pay
Could happen.
With our luck we keep/trade the wrong guys?
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