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What's that got to do with anything? We are criticizing him precisely as a manager, not as a bad husband or father or human being.
sdaltons wrote: ↑06 Apr 2025 21:32 pmI'm just saying it all comes down to Mozeliak. He's the one who continuously puts people in a position to fail.
Why didn't Pages go talk to Helsley?Goldfan wrote: ↑06 Apr 2025 19:39 pm Helsley is given away a 2 run lead and win in the 9th…..BY WALKING GUYs……and not once does Oli or Dusty get off their (bleep) and walk out there to slow down the snowball of doom……these guys are beyond incompetent
He rest red hot players who are winning games for the team
He pulls cruising SP
He leave pitchers in who are clearly done
Amazing
So it’s up to a rookie C to go out there, slow things down, and hopefully get RH back to throwing strikes?? I guess the manager just fills out the lineup card and chugs brewskys in the clubhouse til the last out…..scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑07 Apr 2025 07:28 amWhy didn't Pages go talk to Helsley?Goldfan wrote: ↑06 Apr 2025 19:39 pm Helsley is given away a 2 run lead and win in the 9th…..BY WALKING GUYs……and not once does Oli or Dusty get off their (bleep) and walk out there to slow down the snowball of doom……these guys are beyond incompetent
He rest red hot players who are winning games for the team
He pulls cruising SP
He leave pitchers in who are clearly done
Amazing
Not sure how you blame Oli for a cluster [fork] of [shirt]ty pitching
Yes. I was the only one who called that out while it was happening. But tell me how he is responsible for the [shirt]ty pitching as a whole?Goldfan wrote: ↑07 Apr 2025 08:08 amSo it’s up to a rookie C to go out there, slow things down, and hopefully get RH back to throwing strikes?? I guess the manager just fills out the lineup card and chugs brewskys in the clubhouse til the last out…..scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑07 Apr 2025 07:28 amWhy didn't Pages go talk to Helsley?Goldfan wrote: ↑06 Apr 2025 19:39 pm Helsley is given away a 2 run lead and win in the 9th…..BY WALKING GUYs……and not once does Oli or Dusty get off their (bleep) and walk out there to slow down the snowball of doom……these guys are beyond incompetent
He rest red hot players who are winning games for the team
He pulls cruising SP
He leave pitchers in who are clearly done
Amazing
Not sure how you blame Oli for a cluster [fork] of [shirt]ty pitching
lol... you do realize that the Manager typically sends the pitching coach out for a visit and the Manager would signal a rookie catcher when to make a mound visit to an established vet closer.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑07 Apr 2025 08:10 amYes. I was the only one who called that out while it was happening. But tell me how he is responsible for the [shirt]ty pitching as a whole?Goldfan wrote: ↑07 Apr 2025 08:08 amSo it’s up to a rookie C to go out there, slow things down, and hopefully get RH back to throwing strikes?? I guess the manager just fills out the lineup card and chugs brewskys in the clubhouse til the last out…..scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑07 Apr 2025 07:28 amWhy didn't Pages go talk to Helsley?Goldfan wrote: ↑06 Apr 2025 19:39 pm Helsley is given away a 2 run lead and win in the 9th…..BY WALKING GUYs……and not once does Oli or Dusty get off their (bleep) and walk out there to slow down the snowball of doom……these guys are beyond incompetent
He rest red hot players who are winning games for the team
He pulls cruising SP
He leave pitchers in who are clearly done
Amazing
Not sure how you blame Oli for a cluster [fork] of [shirt]ty pitching
Do you not find it off that Pages or the pitching coach didn't go talk to Helsley? Those are normally what happens while the manager goes and pulls the pitcher.
Need to connect the dots for ole ScoutyBasil Shabazz wrote: ↑07 Apr 2025 08:17 amlol... you do realize that the Manager typically sends the pitching coach out for a visit and the Manager would signal a rookie catcher when to make a mound visit to an established vet closer.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑07 Apr 2025 08:10 amYes. I was the only one who called that out while it was happening. But tell me how he is responsible for the [shirt]ty pitching as a whole?Goldfan wrote: ↑07 Apr 2025 08:08 amSo it’s up to a rookie C to go out there, slow things down, and hopefully get RH back to throwing strikes?? I guess the manager just fills out the lineup card and chugs brewskys in the clubhouse til the last out…..scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑07 Apr 2025 07:28 amWhy didn't Pages go talk to Helsley?Goldfan wrote: ↑06 Apr 2025 19:39 pm Helsley is given away a 2 run lead and win in the 9th…..BY WALKING GUYs……and not once does Oli or Dusty get off their (bleep) and walk out there to slow down the snowball of doom……these guys are beyond incompetent
He rest red hot players who are winning games for the team
He pulls cruising SP
He leave pitchers in who are clearly done
Amazing
Not sure how you blame Oli for a cluster [fork] of [shirt]ty pitching
Do you not find it off that Pages or the pitching coach didn't go talk to Helsley? Those are normally what happens while the manager goes and pulls the pitcher.
Worst we seen here in any of our lifetimes.Goldfan wrote: ↑06 Apr 2025 19:39 pm Helsley is given away a 2 run lead and win in the 9th…..BY WALKING GUYs……and not once does Oli or Dusty get off their (bleep) and walk out there to slow down the snowball of doom……these guys are beyond incompetent
He rest red hot players who are winning games for the team
He pulls cruising SP
He leave pitchers in who are clearly done
Amazing
Awful. Wonder why the players like him.rockondlouie wrote: ↑07 Apr 2025 08:48 amWorst we seen here in any of our lifetimes.Goldfan wrote: ↑06 Apr 2025 19:39 pm Helsley is given away a 2 run lead and win in the 9th…..BY WALKING GUYs……and not once does Oli or Dusty get off their (bleep) and walk out there to slow down the snowball of doom……these guys are beyond incompetent
He rest red hot players who are winning games for the team
He pulls cruising SP
He leave pitchers in who are clearly done
Amazing
Should be fired the day the Cardinals fall 10 games behind the scrubs.![]()