Is Army GM of the Year?

[2forDiving]

My guess is both Armstrong and Montgomery are both finalists for their respective positions this year. And also guess the Caps win both.

[Phil Roberto fan]

Listening to a couple hockey channels on youtube the past 24 hours, it seems the growing consensus is that Army will win the Jim Gregory GM of the year award. We obviously know his career numbers as he is top 10 in the league all time for wins, tops in the league for win percentage among GM's who have done the job more than 10 years, won a Stanley Cup, coveted in Canada etc etc etc.

But looking at the season in a vacuum as that is what the award is for. Is this one of the best GM jobs in history? The offer sheet play was the talk of the summer. It happened in a huge hockey lull and the Blues and Oilers became the top conversation for those who listen to hockey podcasts and news for a full week. Every day was a roller coaster with Edmonton fans saying these 2 were the best thing ever, then the next day when it looked like they were walking "these 2 are so overrated that money is stupid." rinse repeat for 7 days. Well it's fair to say like Rivers yesterday on 101, just give these guys 8x8 and be done with it. The gamble paid off. Take another gamble and you might have a huge steal 5 years from now. That is point 1.

Point 2 for Army was the hiring of Monty. This was a no brainer as we all saw this coming from last season but it seemed like an impossible task and bad timing for the Blues with Monty getting past the 1st round. The only thing that was difficult was Army had to fire a contracted coach and hire Monty. This was BOLD and not many GM's would do that. He had to convince Stillman and Co to buck up that extra money too.

Point 3 MASSIVE trade for Fowler while giving up peanuts. Blues basically got a free top pairing defensemen who is careering in half a season as a Blue. This goes to show that you can find good trades for vets from bad teams without giving up anything. People especially on this board called Fowler washed. He just had been playing on a bad team. Monty said that Fowler/Parayko pairing was the best pairing he had ever coached at any spot. Huge steal for the man Army

Point 4 Snuggy. Some posters on this board as well as a lot of posters on Reddit bought in that Snuggy didn't want to be here. He would never play for the Blues and would eventually sign with the Mild. That was pushed for over 2 years. Sure enough, Snuggy signs as a Blue for 3 seasons. I still remember earlier in the year. "What GM goes to the players house and has dinner with them if he isn't trying to convince him to be a Blue. This isn't normal. Army didn't do that for DD." Stupid remarks.

If the Blues make the playoffs, that will be point 5 an seal the deal. Dude is on FIRE.

Shoutout to him doing this and mentoring Steener in the process. That has to be a lot of fun.

Agreed. Not sure Point 4 is necessarily GM of the Year worthy, but for what it's worth he's handled both the Snuggerud and Dvorsky situations well IMHO.

Instead, I'd look at his handling of the Saad departure, signing Suter, or even his deadline maneuvering to create demand for Schenn, only to have Schenn and the locker room force the issue.

Every. Transaction. Paid. Off. Even the non-transactions.

And, nobody is complaining about Leddy now that Parayko is hurt. Even his unpopular move years ago (keeping Leddy over Perron) is paying off this year.

3-d chess.

Completely agree with the bolded. Not sure getting a 1st round pick signed after their college season ended is GM of the year accomplishment, that's just part of your job, and I think they constant talk about Snuggerud not signing was mostly hyperbole. Getting rid of Saad while not having to pay to do it and freeing up cap space this year and next was a great move. Suter has turned out to be a great signing as well, he held his own playing with Parayko when Leddy went down until Army could acquire Fowler as a replacement. Not all of the off-season signings and trades worked out great, but that one certainly did.

If the rumors were true there is one additional point. Word was DA traded Krug to Anaheim which TK vetoed. Army supposedly threatened to waive him and Krug opted for surgery instead, and most likely ended his playing days as a Blue. If this is true this rates with moving Saad and getting his contract terminated. Brilliant work by the GM.

[hullie]

Best GM in the game

[neverchange27]

Statue. You gotta be fkkn kidding me. Deluded Bluesers.

[sdaltons]

My guess is both Armstrong and Montgomery are both finalists for their respective positions this year. And also guess the Caps win both.

Sounds about right.

[TBone]

Best GM in the game

The Muffin Man.

Everyone's talking about it.

[noted]

Yes he is

[MikoTython]

Ask DA about reportedly trying to move Schenn recently.

What part of "listening to offers" vs. "actively pushing to move him" don't you understand, Jack Hoff?

You couldn't barf up a more petty, nit-picking, mindless rant than our 'friend's' here. We don't even KNOW what happened, all DA has ever said is that that OF COURSE he listens to offers. Schenn was not traded, his game has blown up - and that, somehow, is a knock on DA ?

[neverchange27]

Statue. Was that a JOKE dude?

Naw son. Some senile dude on here said that.

Is he okay in his head?

Not really.

[neverchange27]

Listening to a couple hockey channels on youtube the past 24 hours, it seems the growing consensus is that Army will win the Jim Gregory GM of the year award. We obviously know his career numbers as he is top 10 in the league all time for wins, tops in the league for win percentage among GM's who have done the job more than 10 years, won a Stanley Cup, coveted in Canada etc etc etc.

But looking at the season in a vacuum as that is what the award is for. Is this one of the best GM jobs in history? The offer sheet play was the talk of the summer. It happened in a huge hockey lull and the Blues and Oilers became the top conversation for those who listen to hockey podcasts and news for a full week. Every day was a roller coaster with Edmonton fans saying these 2 were the best thing ever, then the next day when it looked like they were walking "these 2 are so overrated that money is stupid." rinse repeat for 7 days. Well it's fair to say like Rivers yesterday on 101, just give these guys 8x8 and be done with it. The gamble paid off. Take another gamble and you might have a huge steal 5 years from now. That is point 1.

Point 2 for Army was the hiring of Monty. This was a no brainer as we all saw this coming from last season but it seemed like an impossible task and bad timing for the Blues with Monty getting past the 1st round. The only thing that was difficult was Army had to fire a contracted coach and hire Monty. This was BOLD and not many GM's would do that. He had to convince Stillman and Co to buck up that extra money too.

Point 3 MASSIVE trade for Fowler while giving up peanuts. Blues basically got a free top pairing defensemen who is careering in half a season as a Blue. This goes to show that you can find good trades for vets from bad teams without giving up anything. People especially on this board called Fowler washed. He just had been playing on a bad team. Monty said that Fowler/Parayko pairing was the best pairing he had ever coached at any spot. Huge steal for the man Army

Point 4 Snuggy. Some posters on this board as well as a lot of posters on Reddit bought in that Snuggy didn't want to be here. He would never play for the Blues and would eventually sign with the Mild. That was pushed for over 2 years. Sure enough, Snuggy signs as a Blue for 3 seasons. I still remember earlier in the year. "What GM goes to the players house and has dinner with them if he isn't trying to convince him to be a Blue. This isn't normal. Army didn't do that for DD." Stupid remarks.

If the Blues make the playoffs, that will be point 5 an seal the deal. Dude is on FIRE.

Shoutout to him doing this and mentoring Steener in the process. That has to be a lot of fun.

You are delirious and god awful stupid. Best GM jobs in history lol. You and suxer boy have the same type of dementia.

[neverchange27]

Ask DA about reportedly trying to move Schenn recently.

What part of "listening to offers" vs. "actively pushing to move him" don't you understand, Jack Hoff?

You couldn't barf up a more petty, nit-picking, mindless rant than our 'friend's' here. We don't even KNOW what happened, all DA has ever said is that that OF COURSE he listens to offers. Schenn was not traded, his game has blown up - and that, somehow, is a knock on DA ?

Dismantle. That is what your DA of the millennia was reportedly open to or gunning for doing. Schenn could be gone, and others.

[Bubble4427]

Statue. You gotta be fkkn kidding me. Deluded Bluesers.

God Probation Boy, you whine 24/7……
Some people are happiest when they are complaining about something.
(This is where you look in the mirror)

Try harder Probation Boy.

[MikoTython]

Ask DA about reportedly trying to move Schenn recently.

What part of "listening to offers" vs. "actively pushing to move him" don't you understand, Jack Hoff?

You couldn't barf up a more petty, nit-picking, mindless rant than our 'friend's' here. We don't even KNOW what happened, all DA has ever said is that that OF COURSE he listens to offers. Schenn was not traded, his game has blown up - and that, somehow, is a knock on DA ?

Dismantle. That is what your DA of the millennia was reportedly open to or gunning for doing. Schenn could be gone, and others.

DA said himself, back then, that if the level of compete didn't change, there would be changes. He didn't stutter. He said just the other day that if they'd not improved, the Blues would have been sellers at the TDL. He challenged the team, they answered the bell, he adjusted. It was a sterling piece of organizational management/motivation. If results don't matter in any assessment, that assessment is worthless.

You are dinging him for a change he DIDN'T make, but a threat issued he DID, all of which has paid off enormously. I don't think you realize how ridiculous your criticism is. If you seriously think his stance didn't straighten up the team's back, you haven't been around the block enough.

The proof is always, always, always in the pudding.

[SRV1990]

Ask DA about reportedly trying to move Schenn recently.

What part of "listening to offers" vs. "actively pushing to move him" don't you understand, Jack Hoff?

You couldn't barf up a more petty, nit-picking, mindless rant than our 'friend's' here. We don't even KNOW what happened, all DA has ever said is that that OF COURSE he listens to offers. Schenn was not traded, his game has blown up - and that, somehow, is a knock on DA ?

Dismantle. That is what your DA of the millennia was reportedly open to or gunning for doing. Schenn could be gone, and others.

DA said himself, back then, that if the level of compete didn't change, there would be changes. He didn't stutter. He said just the other day that if they'd not improved, the Blues would have been sellers at the TDL. He challenged the team, they answered the bell, he adjusted. It was a sterling piece of organizational management/motivation. If results don't matter in any assessment, that assessment is worthless.

You are dinging him for a change he DIDN'T make, but a threat issued he DID, all of which has paid off enormously. I don't think you realize how ridiculous your criticism is. If you seriously think his stance didn't straighten up the team's back, you haven't been around the block enough.

The proof is always, always, always in the pudding.

I'm absolutely loving how angry and miserable our resident hockey dumb d-bag is that the Blues are winning. He keeps flailing away, making zero sense and it's awesome. He wakes up angry and goes to bed angry. This forum is clearly all he has in his life. Everyone is laughing at him and it makes me smile.

[TBone]

You are delirious and god awful stupid. Best GM jobs in history lol. You and suxer boy have the same type of dementia.

A little piece of you dies with every Blues victory doesn't it?

[callitwhatyouwant]

Ask DA about reportedly trying to move Schenn recently.

What part of "listening to offers" vs. "actively pushing to move him" don't you understand, Jack Hoff?

You couldn't barf up a more petty, nit-picking, mindless rant than our 'friend's' here. We don't even KNOW what happened, all DA has ever said is that that OF COURSE he listens to offers. Schenn was not traded, his game has blown up - and that, somehow, is a knock on DA ?

Dismantle. That is what your DA of the millennia was reportedly open to or gunning for doing. Schenn could be gone, and others.

DA said himself, back then, that if the level of compete didn't change, there would be changes. He didn't stutter. He said just the other day that if they'd not improved, the Blues would have been sellers at the TDL. He challenged the team, they answered the bell, he adjusted. It was a sterling piece of organizational management/motivation. If results don't matter in any assessment, that assessment is worthless.

You are dinging him for a change he DIDN'T make, but a threat issued he DID, all of which has paid off enormously. I don't think you realize how ridiculous your criticism is. If you seriously think his stance didn't straighten up the team's back, you haven't been around the block enough.

The proof is always, always, always in the pudding.

honestly, I would love to know how a GM is supposed to handle the situation the Blues were in. Army thought the team was better than it had been playing, thought it was a borderline playoff team, team was scuffling, he challenges team, team gets results, he doesn't trade anyone. Isn't this what is supposed to happen? Be transparent with your players and staff? Be transparent with the fans? How can someone complain about someone getting results?