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Is Army GM of the Year?

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Listening to a couple hockey channels on youtube the past 24 hours, it seems the growing consensus is that Army will win the Jim Gregory GM of the year award. We obviously know his career numbers as he is top 10 in the league all time for wins, tops in the league for win percentage among GM's who have done the job more than 10 years, won a Stanley Cup, coveted in Canada etc etc etc.

But looking at the season in a vacuum as that is what the award is for. Is this one of the best GM jobs in history? The offer sheet play was the talk of the summer. It happened in a huge hockey lull and the Blues and Oilers became the top conversation for those who listen to hockey podcasts and news for a full week. Every day was a roller coaster with Edmonton fans saying these 2 were the best thing ever, then the next day when it looked like they were walking "these 2 are so overrated that money is stupid." rinse repeat for 7 days. Well it's fair to say like Rivers yesterday on 101, just give these guys 8x8 and be done with it. The gamble paid off. Take another gamble and you might have a huge steal 5 years from now. That is point 1.

Point 2 for Army was the hiring of Monty. This was a no brainer as we all saw this coming from last season but it seemed like an impossible task and bad timing for the Blues with Monty getting past the 1st round. The only thing that was difficult was Army had to fire a contracted coach and hire Monty. This was BOLD and not many GM's would do that. He had to convince Stillman and Co to buck up that extra money too.

Point 3 MASSIVE trade for Fowler while giving up peanuts. Blues basically got a free top pairing defensemen who is careering in half a season as a Blue. This goes to show that you can find good trades for vets from bad teams without giving up anything. People especially on this board called Fowler washed. He just had been playing on a bad team. Monty said that Fowler/Parayko pairing was the best pairing he had ever coached at any spot. Huge steal for the man Army

Point 4 Snuggy. Some posters on this board as well as a lot of posters on Reddit bought in that Snuggy didn't want to be here. He would never play for the Blues and would eventually sign with the Mild. That was pushed for over 2 years. Sure enough, Snuggy signs as a Blue for 3 seasons. I still remember earlier in the year. "What GM goes to the players house and has dinner with them if he isn't trying to convince him to be a Blue. This isn't normal. Army didn't do that for DD." Stupid remarks.

If the Blues make the playoffs, that will be point 5 an seal the deal. Dude is on FIRE.

Shoutout to him doing this and mentoring Steener in the process. That has to be a lot of fun.
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I assume the Capitals GM will win GM of the year.
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rbirules wrote: 03 Apr 2025 10:57 am I assume the Capitals GM will win GM of the year.
that's a good one. I wonder how many times coach of the year and GM go to the same franchise. I think Carbery is the favorite there too.
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Stanley Cups, awards, playoff revenue, GM and coaches of the year ... Bleh. B O R I N G

I want DRAFT PICKS!
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The offer sheet thing was great in part because it changed the narrative of the season coming in. It built up some excitement, kind of the opposite of how the Cardinals approached things. It has worked far beyond what we expected. Most people thought Holloway was a big overpay just hoping for the future. He might be worth the 4 million right now.


With Snuggy and Dvorsky on the way and Lidstein and Sternberg not far behind, it's a pretty exciting time to wear the note.
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Yes.
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blackinkbiz wrote: 03 Apr 2025 11:21 am Stanley Cups, awards, playoff revenue, GM and coaches of the year ... Bleh. B O R I N G

I want DRAFT PICKS!
Could you imagine being a fan of a sports team and would rather the team be terrible, root on for hypothetical draft spots that you aren't guaranteed, rather than what is currently happening where you are the talk of the hockey world, there's hope that the team could make the playoffs and possibly make a run, young guys playing in the lineup, vibes are awesome at enterprise. I wonder what that must be like. Actively rooting against people having fun.

The best comment of the year was whoever posted that we needed to sell Parayko since his value is all time high. How in the world is your team supposed to get better if you do everything possible to cut off your legs and arms?
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Bob39 wrote: 03 Apr 2025 11:23 am The offer sheet thing was great in part because it changed the narrative of the season coming in. It built up some excitement, kind of the opposite of how the Cardinals approached things. It has worked far beyond what we expected. Most people thought Holloway was a big overpay just hoping for the future. He might be worth the 4 million right now.


With Snuggy and Dvorsky on the way and Lidstein and Sternberg not far behind, it's a pretty exciting time to wear the note.
Holloway is only 2.2 which is the crazy part. Broberg is 4.5 and was the arguable overpay. But even then, Broberg was the no doubter and Holloway was the guy who you needed to see. It worked out well for both obviously, but Holloway seems to be in love with STL and the team. He has stated that he didn't expect it to be as easy a transition and he is loving it. Clearly that excitement spills over into your play because it's incentive to keep putting in the hours he apparently is day in and day out. They both should get the 8x8 if they want it. If not then they should get like 3x5-6
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callitwhatyouwant wrote: 03 Apr 2025 11:31 am
blackinkbiz wrote: 03 Apr 2025 11:21 am Stanley Cups, awards, playoff revenue, GM and coaches of the year ... Bleh. B O R I N G

I want DRAFT PICKS!
Could you imagine being a fan of a sports team and would rather the team be terrible, root on for hypothetical draft spots that you aren't guaranteed, rather than what is currently happening where you are the talk of the hockey world, there's hope that the team could make the playoffs and possibly make a run, young guys playing in the lineup, vibes are awesome at enterprise. I wonder what that must be like. Actively rooting against people having fun.

The best comment of the year was whoever posted that we needed to sell Parayko since his value is all time high. How in the world is your team supposed to get better if you do everything possible to cut off your legs and arms?
I don't think he was serious, just forgot the blue font. Posting history shows blackinbiz to be, at worst, a reasonably intelligent poster unworthy of posting such cynisim and actually meaning it.
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Bob39 wrote: 03 Apr 2025 11:23 am The offer sheet thing was great in part because it changed the narrative of the season coming in. It built up some excitement, kind of the opposite of how the Cardinals approached things. It has worked far beyond what we expected. Most people thought Holloway was a big overpay just hoping for the future. He might be worth the 4 million right now.


With Snuggy and Dvorsky on the way and Lidstein and Sternberg not far behind, it's a pretty exciting time to wear the note.
Barring any devastating injuries (knock on wood knock on wood knock on wood), the Blues are JUST entering the competitive window of this core, and if I'm not mistaken, the average age of the core is a couple years younger than when the last core of Backes/Vlad/Petro/Steen/Schwartz became competitive. Additionally, I think this core has a much higher ceiling when it comes to offensive talent.

Again, barring any injuries, Army has created the blueprint for how to successfully retool in 3 years or less. The offer sheets, of course, put everything a year ahead of schedule and launched his notoriety into another stratosphere.
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blackinkbiz wrote: 03 Apr 2025 11:21 am Stanley Cups, awards, playoff revenue, GM and coaches of the year ... Bleh. B O R I N G

I want DRAFT PICKS!
I would definitely rather maybe possibly perhaps be great in the future than actually be great now!!
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Aesa wrote: 03 Apr 2025 11:36 am
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 03 Apr 2025 11:31 am
blackinkbiz wrote: 03 Apr 2025 11:21 am Stanley Cups, awards, playoff revenue, GM and coaches of the year ... Bleh. B O R I N G

I want DRAFT PICKS!
Could you imagine being a fan of a sports team and would rather the team be terrible, root on for hypothetical draft spots that you aren't guaranteed, rather than what is currently happening where you are the talk of the hockey world, there's hope that the team could make the playoffs and possibly make a run, young guys playing in the lineup, vibes are awesome at enterprise. I wonder what that must be like. Actively rooting against people having fun.

The best comment of the year was whoever posted that we needed to sell Parayko since his value is all time high. How in the world is your team supposed to get better if you do everything possible to cut off your legs and arms?
I don't think he was serious, just forgot the blue font. Posting history shows blackinbiz to be, at worst, a reasonably intelligent poster unworthy of posting such cynisim and actually meaning it.
Oh he knows I was joking! hehe

And to answer Callitwhat... nope, I literally cannot imagine being like that, which leads me to believe it's either some sort of mental illness or just batsh*t crazy trolling. lol
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blackinkbiz wrote: 03 Apr 2025 11:21 am Stanley Cups, awards, playoff revenue, GM and coaches of the year ... Bleh. B O R I N G

I want DRAFT PICKS!
LOL... well played!

As for Army, hell yes he's GM of the year! Not sure if he'll win, but he should.
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callitwhatyouwant wrote: 03 Apr 2025 11:31 am
blackinkbiz wrote: 03 Apr 2025 11:21 am Stanley Cups, awards, playoff revenue, GM and coaches of the year ... Bleh. B O R I N G

I want DRAFT PICKS!
Could you imagine being a fan of a sports team and would rather the team be terrible, root on for hypothetical draft spots that you aren't guaranteed, rather than what is currently happening where you are the talk of the hockey world, there's hope that the team could make the playoffs and possibly make a run, young guys playing in the lineup, vibes are awesome at enterprise. I wonder what that must be like. Actively rooting against people having fun.

The best comment of the year was whoever posted that we needed to sell Parayko since his value is all time high. How in the world is your team supposed to get better if you do everything possible to cut off your legs and arms?
You act like you know hockey, with your five page posts lol.

Ask DA about reportedly trying to move Schenn recently.
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Aesa wrote: 03 Apr 2025 11:36 am
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 03 Apr 2025 11:31 am
blackinkbiz wrote: 03 Apr 2025 11:21 am Stanley Cups, awards, playoff revenue, GM and coaches of the year ... Bleh. B O R I N G

I want DRAFT PICKS!
Could you imagine being a fan of a sports team and would rather the team be terrible, root on for hypothetical draft spots that you aren't guaranteed, rather than what is currently happening where you are the talk of the hockey world, there's hope that the team could make the playoffs and possibly make a run, young guys playing in the lineup, vibes are awesome at enterprise. I wonder what that must be like. Actively rooting against people having fun.

The best comment of the year was whoever posted that we needed to sell Parayko since his value is all time high. How in the world is your team supposed to get better if you do everything possible to cut off your legs and arms?
I don't think he was serious, just forgot the blue font. Posting history shows blackinbiz to be, at worst, a reasonably intelligent poster unworthy of posting such cynisim and actually meaning it.
Yea I know he was being sarcastic. I was just trying to get some banter about other posters that actual revel in that space. I don't understand how you could actively root against a team if you are fans of that team. That doesn't mean you can't be a realist. But calling for tanks out of a .500 hockey club in December is the epitome of stupidity in my opinion. If the team was out of the playoff race today, I too would be indifferent on the wins, and the losses would be a bonus for draft stock. But again, making that call months ago just tells me that you are either an angry lonely person, or you are trying to bother others and want to have your cake and eat it too. There's nothing more fake than the fan that says nothing but negative stuff all the time, and then they jump on the winning bandwagon. We all know these people. I doubt there's a single person who doesn't have this kind of fan in their friend group. But to actively push it on a message board is another level.

My genuine hope is that we try to keep the band together as much as possible next year. Basically the whole roster is extended. You just have to figure out Suter and Faksa. But keep the band together, find full time starting role for Snuggs and minimum 50-60 games for Dvorsky (rotate sunnyd to keep him fresh). Extend fowler 2-3 years. And then find the replacements for Leddy 2 years from now, Faulk 3 years from now, and Fowler after that. The forward group kind of takes care of itself. But we have to start being strategic about the defenses future.
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callitwhatyouwant wrote: 03 Apr 2025 11:31 am
blackinkbiz wrote: 03 Apr 2025 11:21 am Stanley Cups, awards, playoff revenue, GM and coaches of the year ... Bleh. B O R I N G

I want DRAFT PICKS!
Could you imagine being a fan of a sports team and would rather the team be terrible, root on for hypothetical draft spots that you aren't guaranteed, rather than what is currently happening where you are the talk of the hockey world, there's hope that the team could make the playoffs and possibly make a run, young guys playing in the lineup, vibes are awesome at enterprise. I wonder what that must be like. Actively rooting against people having fun.

The best comment of the year was whoever posted that we needed to sell Parayko since his value is all time high. How in the world is your team supposed to get better if you do everything possible to cut off your legs and arms?
Careful, the idiot's other account will come on here and attack you.
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