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Hitless wonders vs rest of team

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Contreras and Winn are 0 for 32 (.000 avg)
Rest of team is 41 for 104 (.394 avg)

8O 8O 8O 8O
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Futuregm2 wrote: 01 Apr 2025 13:43 pm Contreras and Winn are 0 for 32 (.000 avg)
Rest of team is 41 for 104 (.394 avg)

8O 8O 8O 8O
It’s like a portfolio. Some stocks are up, some are down. And the trick here as there is to have more up.
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 01 Apr 2025 13:46 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 01 Apr 2025 13:43 pm Contreras and Winn are 0 for 32 (.000 avg)
Rest of team is 41 for 104 (.394 avg)

8O 8O 8O 8O
It’s like a portfolio. Some stocks are up, some are down. And the trick here as there is to have more up.
11 sectors in the market. Rarely are all up or down.
9 sectors in the lineup. Rarely ...........
So we weight them, put the best up top
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renostl wrote: 01 Apr 2025 14:19 pm
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 01 Apr 2025 13:46 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 01 Apr 2025 13:43 pm Contreras and Winn are 0 for 32 (.000 avg)
Rest of team is 41 for 104 (.394 avg)

8O 8O 8O 8O
It’s like a portfolio. Some stocks are up, some are down. And the trick here as there is to have more up.
11 sectors in the market. Rarely are all up or down.
9 sectors in the lineup. Rarely ...........
So we weight them, put the best up top
Somehow I meant to say that. Nice injection.
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Before he slipped into the season opening doldrums, at least Contreras showed us this spring he can be an offensive force this year. Winn has 4 singles in 68 AB’s to this point including spring training. That is an extended slumber.
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Futuregm2 wrote: 01 Apr 2025 13:43 pm Contreras and Winn are 0 for 32 (.000 avg)
Rest of team is 41 for 104 (.394 avg)

8O 8O 8O 8O
Contreras and Winn will hit, but for now they look lost at the plate. It’s going to take a while to get them out of these slumps. Right now they are killing the offense.
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Winn is dumping his back foot
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I remain confident that they will come around soon. Meanwhile I am very pleased with the terrific starts by Nootbaar, Walker, Arenado, Scott II, and Gorman. It's only 5 games sports fans - 157 left.
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Futuregm2 wrote: 01 Apr 2025 13:43 pm Contreras and Winn are 0 for 32 (.000 avg)
Rest of team is 41 for 104 (.394 avg)

8O 8O 8O 8O
I have faith WillyC will get on track, not so much w/Winn facing the Sophomore jinx as pitchers had a full offseason to find his weaknesses.
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rockondlouie wrote: 02 Apr 2025 08:43 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 01 Apr 2025 13:43 pm Contreras and Winn are 0 for 32 (.000 avg)
Rest of team is 41 for 104 (.394 avg)

8O 8O 8O 8O
I have faith WillyC will get on track, not so much w/Winn facing the Sophomore jinx as pitchers had a full offseason to find his weaknesses.
Looking at baseball savant, his bat profile isn’t terrible.

Whiff% is up, but his chase% is down. His Squared up and sweet spots are down.

But his walk% is up, his EV and bat speeds are up, as well as his hard hit% and barrel% both being better.

Willson Contreras is another story though, his entire bat profile is pretty much far worse.

It’s all still very SSS. Hopefully they both right the ship results wise.
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Futuregm2 wrote: 02 Apr 2025 09:27 am
rockondlouie wrote: 02 Apr 2025 08:43 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 01 Apr 2025 13:43 pm Contreras and Winn are 0 for 32 (.000 avg)
Rest of team is 41 for 104 (.394 avg)

8O 8O 8O 8O
I have faith WillyC will get on track, not so much w/Winn facing the Sophomore jinx as pitchers had a full offseason to find his weaknesses.
Looking at baseball savant, his bat profile isn’t terrible.

Whiff% is up, but his chase% is down. His Squared up and sweet spots are down.

But his walk% is up, his EV and bat speeds are up, as well as his hard hit% and barrel% both being better.

Willson Contreras is another story though, his entire bat profile is pretty much far worse.

It’s all still very SSS. Hopefully they both right the ship results wise.
Saw that too, Winn's strong hit rate & barrel rate are up and he's got solid exit velo too.

BUT his swing and miss rate is way up.

Too much launch angle, he needs to stop thinking he's a power hitter and go back to spraying hits to the opposite field.

WillyC is is out of kilter, but I have confidence he'll figure it out.
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