Attendance

[OldRed]

Just watched hilights from game today. Pretty sparse crowd in the outfield all game. I guess it’s what we expected after the last two seasons and the pronouncement from Mo to pretty much accept mediocrity but man it makes me sad to see the lack of interest.

Eh, the boring Twins were the opponent, and the weather was iffy.

Yeah, “the OPPOSING team isn’t interesting enough” and
“what if I get wet?” sounds wayyyyyyy better on the BFIB reputation as opposed to “we’re starting to get sick of the complacency” when explaining why the opening day weekend crowd was unimpressive……..

I guess the forecast thunderstorms had nothing to do with it.

Man, you can come up with more excuses. Advance ticket sales have nothing to do with a weather forecast.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/hi ... 7c70&ei=10

Those crowd shots are extremely concerning. There is No Crowd!!!

Wow. Looks like Pittsburgh or Oakland.

We must be near rock bottom at this point

As long as team keeps Winning, couldn't care if they were playing to an Entirely Empty Stadium.

I mean, the bold is the key.

Fans were disappointed by the lack of offseason movement and didn't want to throw down big money right away.

Winning solves all.

Cards keep playing good baseball, Busch will be packed by late April.

It will take much longer than April because crowds are generally advance ticket sales. I have enjoyed the first three games and hopefully good sound fundamental baseball will continue.

[rockondlouie]

Win and attendance won't be an issue.

Stay in contention all season and BDWJr will get 2.5+M.

Start losing, selling off key players (re: Helsley, NADO, Fedde, ect...) and attendance will plummet.

It's the same for any team in MLB, even the Dodgers, Yankees and Cardinals.

[Rojo Johnson]

Just watched hilights from game today. Pretty sparse crowd in the outfield all game. I guess it’s what we expected after the last two seasons and the pronouncement from Mo to pretty much accept mediocrity but man it makes me sad to see the lack of interest.

Eh, the boring Twins were the opponent, and the weather was iffy.

Yeah, “the OPPOSING team isn’t interesting enough” and
“what if I get wet?” sounds wayyyyyyy better on the BFIB reputation as opposed to “we’re starting to get sick of the complacency” when explaining why the opening day weekend crowd was unimpressive……..

I guess the forecast thunderstorms had nothing to do with it.

As long as the roots are not severed, all is well. And all will be well in the garden.

[ecleme22]

Just watched hilights from game today. Pretty sparse crowd in the outfield all game. I guess it’s what we expected after the last two seasons and the pronouncement from Mo to pretty much accept mediocrity but man it makes me sad to see the lack of interest.

Eh, the boring Twins were the opponent, and the weather was iffy.

Yeah, “the OPPOSING team isn’t interesting enough” and
“what if I get wet?” sounds wayyyyyyy better on the BFIB reputation as opposed to “we’re starting to get sick of the complacency” when explaining why the opening day weekend crowd was unimpressive……..

I guess the forecast thunderstorms had nothing to do with it.

Man, you can come up with more excuses. Advance ticket sales have nothing to do with a weather forecast.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/hi ... 7c70&ei=10

Those crowd shots are extremely concerning. There is No Crowd!!!

Wow. Looks like Pittsburgh or Oakland.

We must be near rock bottom at this point

As long as team keeps Winning, couldn't care if they were playing to an Entirely Empty Stadium.

I mean, the bold is the key.

Fans were disappointed by the lack of offseason movement and didn't want to throw down big money right away.

Winning solves all.

Cards keep playing good baseball, Busch will be packed by late April.

It will take much longer than April because crowds are generally advance ticket sales. I have enjoyed the first three games and hopefully good sound fundamental baseball will continue.

Maybe, but hot tickets are hot tickets.

And tickets can be bought instantly.

[OldRed]

Just watched hilights from game today. Pretty sparse crowd in the outfield all game. I guess it’s what we expected after the last two seasons and the pronouncement from Mo to pretty much accept mediocrity but man it makes me sad to see the lack of interest.

Eh, the boring Twins were the opponent, and the weather was iffy.

Yeah, “the OPPOSING team isn’t interesting enough” and
“what if I get wet?” sounds wayyyyyyy better on the BFIB reputation as opposed to “we’re starting to get sick of the complacency” when explaining why the opening day weekend crowd was unimpressive……..

I guess the forecast thunderstorms had nothing to do with it.

Man, you can come up with more excuses. Advance ticket sales have nothing to do with a weather forecast.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/hi ... 7c70&ei=10

Those crowd shots are extremely concerning. There is No Crowd!!!

Wow. Looks like Pittsburgh or Oakland.

We must be near rock bottom at this point

As long as team keeps Winning, couldn't care if they were playing to an Entirely Empty Stadium.

I mean, the bold is the key.

Fans were disappointed by the lack of offseason movement and didn't want to throw down big money right away.

Winning solves all.

Cards keep playing good baseball, Busch will be packed by late April.

It will take much longer than April because crowds are generally advance ticket sales. I have enjoyed the first three games and hopefully good sound fundamental baseball will continue.

Maybe, but hot tickets are hot tickets.

And tickets can be bought instantly.

Pre-season ticket sales is what has been the Cardinals trademark for years. That's why they can have 30,000 in the seats and paid attendance is 36 or 38,000. This will be a down year on attendance no matter how well they play. It would be interesting to know what the pre-season tickets were this year.

[Futuregm2]

Just watched hilights from game today. Pretty sparse crowd in the outfield all game. I guess it’s what we expected after the last two seasons and the pronouncement from Mo to pretty much accept mediocrity but man it makes me sad to see the lack of interest.

Eh, the boring Twins were the opponent, and the weather was iffy.

Yeah, “the OPPOSING team isn’t interesting enough” and
“what if I get wet?” sounds wayyyyyyy better on the BFIB reputation as opposed to “we’re starting to get sick of the complacency” when explaining why the opening day weekend crowd was unimpressive……..

I guess the forecast thunderstorms had nothing to do with it.

Man, you can come up with more excuses. Advance ticket sales have nothing to do with a weather forecast.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/hi ... 7c70&ei=10

Those crowd shots are extremely concerning. There is No Crowd!!!

Wow. Looks like Pittsburgh or Oakland.

We must be near rock bottom at this point

As long as team keeps Winning, couldn't care if they were playing to an Entirely Empty Stadium.

I mean, the bold is the key.

Fans were disappointed by the lack of offseason movement and didn't want to throw down big money right away.

Winning solves all.

Cards keep playing good baseball, Busch will be packed by late April.

It will take much longer than April because crowds are generally advance ticket sales. I have enjoyed the first three games and hopefully good sound fundamental baseball will continue.

Maybe, but hot tickets are hot tickets.

And tickets can be bought instantly.

Pre-season ticket sales is what has been the Cardinals trademark for years. That's why they can have 30,000 in the seats and paid attendance is 36 or 38,000. This will be a down year on attendance no matter how well they play. It would be interesting to know what the pre-season tickets were this year.

That doesn’t mean it can’t change. Play well enough Ab tickets will be bought. Yes it may be down a bit due to April and maybe May, but I think the enthusiasm can be there in a heartbeat if they continue to play well.

[Goldfan]

Just watched hilights from game today. Pretty sparse crowd in the outfield all game. I guess it’s what we expected after the last two seasons and the pronouncement from Mo to pretty much accept mediocrity but man it makes me sad to see the lack of interest.

Eh, the boring Twins were the opponent, and the weather was iffy.

Yeah, “the OPPOSING team isn’t interesting enough” and
“what if I get wet?” sounds wayyyyyyy better on the BFIB reputation as opposed to “we’re starting to get sick of the complacency” when explaining why the opening day weekend crowd was unimpressive……..

I guess the forecast thunderstorms had nothing to do with it.

Man, you can come up with more excuses. Advance ticket sales have nothing to do with a weather forecast.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/hi ... 7c70&ei=10

My entire life
Kids have attended School
There’s been weather
Games have started around 7pm
Games have been on Holidays
And when theres been an exciting winning team……..with an ownership that seemed to give 2 chits……Busch Stadium has been mostly full
But now that the team hasn’t been winning or playing exciting baseball with an owner who seems to no longer care to win…..attendance is solely affected by the items listed above

[Cranny]

Just watched hilights from game today. Pretty sparse crowd in the outfield all game. I guess it’s what we expected after the last two seasons and the pronouncement from Mo to pretty much accept mediocrity but man it makes me sad to see the lack of interest.

Eh, the boring Twins were the opponent, and the weather was iffy.
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Yeah, “the OPPOSING team isn’t interesting enough” and
“what if I get wet?” sounds wayyyyyyy better on the BFIB reputation as opposed to “we’re starting to get sick of the complacency” when explaining why the opening day weekend crowd was unimpressive……..

I guess the forecast thunderstorms had nothing to do with it.

Man, you can come up with more excuses. Advance ticket sales have nothing to do with a weather forecast.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/hi ... 7c70&ei=10

My entire life
Kids have attended School
There’s been weather
Games have started around 7pm
Games have been on Holidays
And when theres been an exciting winning team……..with an ownership that seemed to give 2 chits……Busch Stadium has been mostly full
But now that the team hasn’t been winning or playing exciting baseball with an owner who seems to no longer care to win…..attendance is solely affected by the items listed above

A contributing factor might be that inflation has lowered the family recreational budget somewhat.

[Futuregm2]

Just watched hilights from game today. Pretty sparse crowd in the outfield all game. I guess it’s what we expected after the last two seasons and the pronouncement from Mo to pretty much accept mediocrity but man it makes me sad to see the lack of interest.

Eh, the boring Twins were the opponent, and the weather was iffy.

Yeah, “the OPPOSING team isn’t interesting enough” and
“what if I get wet?” sounds wayyyyyyy better on the BFIB reputation as opposed to “we’re starting to get sick of the complacency” when explaining why the opening day weekend crowd was unimpressive……..

I guess the forecast thunderstorms had nothing to do with it.

Man, you can come up with more excuses. Advance ticket sales have nothing to do with a weather forecast.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/hi ... 7c70&ei=10

My entire life
Kids have attended School
There’s been weather
Games have started around 7pm
Games have been on Holidays
And when theres been an exciting winning team……..with an ownership that seemed to give 2 chits……Busch Stadium has been mostly full
But now that the team hasn’t been winning or playing exciting baseball with an owner who seems to no longer care to win…..attendance is solely affected by the items listed above

A contributing factor might be that inflation has lowered the family recreational budget somewhat.

MLB Attendance through the first 2-4 games of the teams that have been at home has been up by 1,114 per game. And that is unjustly affected by TB being in a minor league park vs MLB park (a 10,815 difference per game).

Right now of the 16 teams with a home game, we have the biggest decrease yoy per game (-6,363) outside of TB.

And if that pace kept for us, it would put our attendance at 2.36 million for the season. And if everything else stayed the same that puts us around 17th in the game.

In other words ownership better hope the team keeps playing like they have or they could be looking at a bottom half team in attendance.

[OldRed]

Just watched hilights from game today. Pretty sparse crowd in the outfield all game. I guess it’s what we expected after the last two seasons and the pronouncement from Mo to pretty much accept mediocrity but man it makes me sad to see the lack of interest.

Eh, the boring Twins were the opponent, and the weather was iffy.

Yeah, “the OPPOSING team isn’t interesting enough” and
“what if I get wet?” sounds wayyyyyyy better on the BFIB reputation as opposed to “we’re starting to get sick of the complacency” when explaining why the opening day weekend crowd was unimpressive……..

I guess the forecast thunderstorms had nothing to do with it.

Man, you can come up with more excuses. Advance ticket sales have nothing to do with a weather forecast.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/hi ... 7c70&ei=10

My entire life
Kids have attended School
There’s been weather
Games have started around 7pm
Games have been on Holidays
And when theres been an exciting winning team……..with an ownership that seemed to give 2 chits……Busch Stadium has been mostly full
But now that the team hasn’t been winning or playing exciting baseball with an owner who seems to no longer care to win…..attendance is solely affected by the items listed above

A contributing factor might be that inflation has lowered the family recreational budget somewhat.

MLB Attendance through the first 2-4 games of the teams that have been at home has been up by 1,114 per game. And that is unjustly affected by TB being in a minor league park vs MLB park (a 10,815 difference per game).

Right now of the 16 teams with a home game, we have the biggest decrease yoy per game (-6,363) outside of TB.

And if that pace kept for us, it would put our attendance at 2.36 million for the season. And if everything else stayed the same that puts us around 17th in the game.

In other words ownership better hope the team keeps playing like they have or they could be looking at a bottom half team in attendance.

Good post and no one booed at management and ownership in the opener.

[Bob39]

Just watched hilights from game today. Pretty sparse crowd in the outfield all game. I guess it’s what we expected after the last two seasons and the pronouncement from Mo to pretty much accept mediocrity but man it makes me sad to see the lack of interest.

Eh, the boring Twins were the opponent, and the weather was iffy.

Yeah, “the OPPOSING team isn’t interesting enough” and
“what if I get wet?” sounds wayyyyyyy better on the BFIB reputation as opposed to “we’re starting to get sick of the complacency” when explaining why the opening day weekend crowd was unimpressive……..

"What if I get wet," is one thing, "What if I have to drive (maybe hours for out of town fans) through large hail and possible tornadoes," is very much another. Though we did not get that, it was talked about very much in the forecast, and the last time such weather was predicted, they were spot on.

[Cranny]

Just watched hilights from game today. Pretty sparse crowd in the outfield all game. I guess it’s what we expected after the last two seasons and the pronouncement from Mo to pretty much accept mediocrity but man it makes me sad to see the lack of interest.

Eh, the boring Twins were the opponent, and the weather was iffy.

Yeah, “the OPPOSING team isn’t interesting enough” and
“what if I get wet?” sounds wayyyyyyy better on the BFIB reputation as opposed to “we’re starting to get sick of the complacency” when explaining why the opening day weekend crowd was unimpressive……..

I guess the forecast thunderstorms had nothing to do with it.

Man, you can come up with more excuses. Advance ticket sales have nothing to do with a weather forecast.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/hi ... 7c70&ei=10

My entire life
Kids have attended School
There’s been weather
Games have started around 7pm
Games have been on Holidays
And when theres been an exciting winning team……..with an ownership that seemed to give 2 chits……Busch Stadium has been mostly full
But now that the team hasn’t been winning or playing exciting baseball with an owner who seems to no longer care to win…..attendance is solely affected by the items listed above

A contributing factor might be that inflation has lowered the family recreational budget somewhat.

MLB Attendance through the first 2-4 games of the teams that have been at home has been up by 1,114 per game. And that is unjustly affected by TB being in a minor league park vs MLB park (a 10,815 difference per game).

Right now of the 16 teams with a home game, we have the biggest decrease yoy per game (-6,363) outside of TB.

And if that pace kept for us, it would put our attendance at 2.36 million for the season. And if everything else stayed the same that puts us around 17th in the game.

In other words ownership better hope the team keeps playing like they have or they could be looking at a bottom half team in attendance.

Good post and no one booed at management and ownership in the opener.

You poor thing. You have nothing better to do with your day than that?
So sad.

[Ordinary Man]

Just watched hilights from game today. Pretty sparse crowd in the outfield all game. I guess it’s what we expected after the last two seasons and the pronouncement from Mo to pretty much accept mediocrity but man it makes me sad to see the lack of interest.

Eh, the boring Twins were the opponent, and the weather was iffy.

Yeah, “the OPPOSING team isn’t interesting enough” and
“what if I get wet?” sounds wayyyyyyy better on the BFIB reputation as opposed to “we’re starting to get sick of the complacency” when explaining why the opening day weekend crowd was unimpressive……..

I guess the forecast thunderstorms had nothing to do with it.

Man, you can come up with more excuses. Advance ticket sales have nothing to do with a weather forecast.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/hi ... 7c70&ei=10

Those crowd shots are extremely concerning. There is No Crowd!!!

Wow. Looks like Pittsburgh or Oakland.

We must be near rock bottom at this point

As long as team keeps Winning, couldn't care if they were playing to an Entirely Empty Stadium.

I mean, the bold is the key.

Fans were disappointed by the lack of offseason movement and didn't want to throw down big money right away.

Winning solves all.

Cards keep playing good baseball, Busch will be packed by late April.

It will take much longer than April because crowds are generally advance ticket sales. I have enjoyed the first three games and hopefully good sound fundamental baseball will continue.

Maybe, but hot tickets are hot tickets.

And tickets can be bought instantly.

Pre-season ticket sales is what has been the Cardinals trademark for years. That's why they can have 30,000 in the seats and paid attendance is 36 or 38,000. This will be a down year on attendance no matter how well they play. It would be interesting to know what the pre-season tickets were this year.

When I saw 26,000 (paid, which is all they announce now) for yesterday's game I wondered if that's the season ticket total for this year. It's either that or LESS. So, does anyone know what it was for last year or two years ago? I'm just wondering if there was a big falloff this year.

[Futuregm2]

Just watched hilights from game today. Pretty sparse crowd in the outfield all game. I guess it’s what we expected after the last two seasons and the pronouncement from Mo to pretty much accept mediocrity but man it makes me sad to see the lack of interest.

Eh, the boring Twins were the opponent, and the weather was iffy.

Yeah, “the OPPOSING team isn’t interesting enough” and
“what if I get wet?” sounds wayyyyyyy better on the BFIB reputation as opposed to “we’re starting to get sick of the complacency” when explaining why the opening day weekend crowd was unimpressive……..

I guess the forecast thunderstorms had nothing to do with it.

Man, you can come up with more excuses. Advance ticket sales have nothing to do with a weather forecast.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/hi ... 7c70&ei=10

Those crowd shots are extremely concerning. There is No Crowd!!!

Wow. Looks like Pittsburgh or Oakland.

We must be near rock bottom at this point

As long as team keeps Winning, couldn't care if they were playing to an Entirely Empty Stadium.

I mean, the bold is the key.

Fans were disappointed by the lack of offseason movement and didn't want to throw down big money right away.

Winning solves all.

Cards keep playing good baseball, Busch will be packed by late April.

It will take much longer than April because crowds are generally advance ticket sales. I have enjoyed the first three games and hopefully good sound fundamental baseball will continue.

Maybe, but hot tickets are hot tickets.

And tickets can be bought instantly.

Pre-season ticket sales is what has been the Cardinals trademark for years. That's why they can have 30,000 in the seats and paid attendance is 36 or 38,000. This will be a down year on attendance no matter how well they play. It would be interesting to know what the pre-season tickets were this year.

When I saw 26,000 (paid, which is all they announce now) for yesterday's game I wondered if that's the season ticket total for this year. It's either that or LESS. So, does anyone know what it was for last year or two years ago? I'm just wondering if there was a big falloff this year.

We are down 6,363 yoy in the same home games so far. Pacing for almost down a million from 2022.

[OldRed]

Just watched hilights from game today. Pretty sparse crowd in the outfield all game. I guess it’s what we expected after the last two seasons and the pronouncement from Mo to pretty much accept mediocrity but man it makes me sad to see the lack of interest.

Eh, the boring Twins were the opponent, and the weather was iffy.

Yeah, “the OPPOSING team isn’t interesting enough” and
“what if I get wet?” sounds wayyyyyyy better on the BFIB reputation as opposed to “we’re starting to get sick of the complacency” when explaining why the opening day weekend crowd was unimpressive……..

I guess the forecast thunderstorms had nothing to do with it.

Man, you can come up with more excuses. Advance ticket sales have nothing to do with a weather forecast.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/hi ... 7c70&ei=10

My entire life
Kids have attended School
There’s been weather
Games have started around 7pm
Games have been on Holidays
And when theres been an exciting winning team……..with an ownership that seemed to give 2 chits……Busch Stadium has been mostly full
But now that the team hasn’t been winning or playing exciting baseball with an owner who seems to no longer care to win…..attendance is solely affected by the items listed above

A contributing factor might be that inflation has lowered the family recreational budget somewhat.

MLB Attendance through the first 2-4 games of the teams that have been at home has been up by 1,114 per game. And that is unjustly affected by TB being in a minor league park vs MLB park (a 10,815 difference per game).

Right now of the 16 teams with a home game, we have the biggest decrease yoy per game (-6,363) outside of TB.

And if that pace kept for us, it would put our attendance at 2.36 million for the season. And if everything else stayed the same that puts us around 17th in the game.

In other words ownership better hope the team keeps playing like they have or they could be looking at a bottom half team in attendance.

Good post and no one booed at management and ownership in the opener.

You poor thing. You have nothing better to do with your day than that?
So sad.

I tell the truth. I just believe your love for ownership and the excuses you make. You know yourself most of the paid tickets are from pre-season sales.

[renostl]

Just watched hilights from game today. Pretty sparse crowd in the outfield all game. I guess it’s what we expected after the last two seasons and the pronouncement from Mo to pretty much accept mediocrity but man it makes me sad to see the lack of interest.

Eh, the boring Twins were the opponent, and the weather was iffy.

Yeah, “the OPPOSING team isn’t interesting enough” and
“what if I get wet?” sounds wayyyyyyy better on the BFIB reputation as opposed to “we’re starting to get sick of the complacency” when explaining why the opening day weekend crowd was unimpressive……..

I guess the forecast thunderstorms had nothing to do with it.

Man, you can come up with more excuses. Advance ticket sales have nothing to do with a weather forecast.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/hi ... 7c70&ei=10

My entire life
Kids have attended School
There’s been weather
Games have started around 7pm
Games have been on Holidays
And when theres been an exciting winning team……..with an ownership that seemed to give 2 chits……Busch Stadium has been mostly full
But now that the team hasn’t been winning or playing exciting baseball with an owner who seems to no longer care to win…..attendance is solely affected by the items listed above

A contributing factor might be that inflation has lowered the family recreational budget somewhat.

MLB Attendance through the first 2-4 games of the teams that have been at home has been up by 1,114 per game. And that is unjustly affected by TB being in a minor league park vs MLB park (a 10,815 difference per game).

Right now of the 16 teams with a home game, we have the biggest decrease yoy per game (-6,363) outside of TB.

And if that pace kept for us, it would put our attendance at 2.36 million for the season. And if everything else stayed the same that puts us around 17th in the game.

In other words ownership better hope the team keeps playing like they have or they could be looking at a bottom half team in attendance.

IMO,
Cranny made a much better observation in another thread.
He mentioned something in regard to fans not separating the owners from the teams.
Easy when they win, Now some show a touch of anger when they lose and don't think
they care.

I know when I attend games and support a team that puts money in pockets.
I don't concentrate on that. I can respect those that do, no issues there with those fans.
Good effort, decent ball is what's paid for.

It's just when I go to a game I think zero about that. I go to games without a vested interest in who
wins, probably been to 100 Giants games, like playing golf for me, I think zero about
who gets paid with hacks like me being there. The world is different, perhaps fans return in masses,
perhaps baseball is slightly less of a hot ticket.