Is Army a Genius?

[tfriede2]

Wow. That's sounds so sexy and fun for the city. How did you feel about Army trying to dump Schenn at the trade deadline this year, like ROR a couple of years ago? Goodwill loves it. Every 2 years, there will be a big dump of Blues player jerseys as yesterday's star leaves town.

It amazes me that Blues fans think that "trading for players" is going to be a reliable way to find the best players on the team. I see way more trades that we lost than we ever won.

So how many other teams rely on "trading for their best players" instead of acquiring them high in the draft?

All that I want for St Louis is the same NHL excitement and fun that other cities enjoy.

Then be miserable - the rest of us are having fun. Our 4 best players were drafted by the Blues, but Vegas is the prime example you’re looking for.

[moose-and-squirrel]

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Okay Holloway, we get the picture. Now quit scoring f***ing goals!

hilarious

[TAFKAP]

Wow. That's sounds so sexy and fun for the city. How did you feel about Army trying to dump Schenn at the trade deadline this year, like ROR a couple of years ago? Goodwill loves it. Every 2 years, there will be a big dump of Blues player jerseys as yesterday's star leaves town.

It amazes me that Blues fans think that "trading for players" is going to be a reliable way to find the best players on the team. I see way more trades that we lost than we ever won.

So how many other teams rely on "trading for their best players" instead of acquiring them high in the draft?

All that I want for St Louis is the same NHL excitement and fun that other cities enjoy.

Then be miserable - the rest of us are having fun. Our 4 best players were drafted by the Blues, but Vegas is the prime example you’re looking for.

The Vegas Golden Knights and Florida Panthers have entered the chat.

[DawgDad]

I was reading an article yesterday or the day before indicating Bedard is fielding advice (from Button and others) to not trust Black Hawks organization to build a winner around him, play out to RFA and invite offer sheets.

I mean, he's in draft pick nirvana we are lead to believe. How can this even be proposed or considered? What happens if the Hawks ever start winning again [hope against hope]? Will he bolt to ensure they get another top-5 pick?

The trolls ensured us what we see happening could not be, that it is self-destructive at best, that there is no real hope unless the Blues burn down the house, and even then they would destroy the careers of their top draft choices turning them into grinding JAGs.

Yes, Army IS a genius. OK, maybe just very good at his job. Not afraid to put his neck on the line for a player or a whole team when following his instincts and judgement. Not always right but right far more often than not.

[TheJackBurton]

Wow. That's sounds so sexy and fun for the city. How did you feel about Army trying to dump Schenn at the trade deadline this year, like ROR a couple of years ago? Goodwill loves it. Every 2 years, there will be a big dump of Blues player jerseys as yesterday's star leaves town.

It amazes me that Blues fans think that "trading for players" is going to be a reliable way to find the best players on the team. I see way more trades that we lost than we ever won.

So how many other teams rely on "trading for their best players" instead of acquiring them high in the draft?

All that I want for St Louis is the same NHL excitement and fun that other cities enjoy.

ummmmm a lot of them.

How did Florida get Ktachuk? Traded for him

How did the Rangers get Panarin? UFA Signed him

How did the Knights get Eichel, Stone, Petro? Traded for and UFA

How did the Stars get Rantanen? Traded for him, after he was traded to Carolina

Numerous star players get traded every single year and many others get signed as UFA's. Very few star players stay with their drafting team throughout their career.

[TheJackBurton]

I was reading an article yesterday or the day before indicating Bedard is fielding advice (from Button and others) to not trust Black Hawks organization to build a winner around him, play out to RFA and invite offer sheets.

I mean, he's in draft pick nirvana we are lead to believe. How can this even be proposed or considered? What happens if the Hawks ever start winning again [hope against hope]? Will he bolt to ensure they get another top-5 pick?

The trolls ensured us what we see happening could not be, that it is self-destructive at best, that there is no real hope unless the Blues burn down the house, and even then they would destroy the careers of their top draft choices turning them into grinding JAGs.

Yes, Army IS a genius. OK, maybe just very good at his job. Not afraid to put his neck on the line for a player or a whole team when following his instincts and judgement. Not always right but right far more often than not.

They have been playing Bedard on the wing lately, or at least some. I'm not counting him out by any means, but he may not be the "generational" talent many expected him to be.

[Aesa]

I was reading an article yesterday or the day before indicating Bedard is fielding advice (from Button and others) to not trust Black Hawks organization to build a winner around him, play out to RFA and invite offer sheets.

I mean, he's in draft pick nirvana we are lead to believe. How can this even be proposed or considered? What happens if the Hawks ever start winning again [hope against hope]? Will he bolt to ensure they get another top-5 pick?

The trolls ensured us what we see happening could not be, that it is self-destructive at best, that there is no real hope unless the Blues burn down the house, and even then they would destroy the careers of their top draft choices turning them into grinding JAGs.

Yes, Army IS a genius. OK, maybe just very good at his job. Not afraid to put his neck on the line for a player or a whole team when following his instincts and judgement. Not always right but right far more often than not.

They have been playing Bedard on the wing lately, or at least some. I'm not counting him out by any means, but he may not be the "generational" talent many expected him to be.

I still think that in the long run of thier careers, Fantilli will be the better asset and Cellibrini already is.

[TheJackBurton]

I was reading an article yesterday or the day before indicating Bedard is fielding advice (from Button and others) to not trust Black Hawks organization to build a winner around him, play out to RFA and invite offer sheets.

I mean, he's in draft pick nirvana we are lead to believe. How can this even be proposed or considered? What happens if the Hawks ever start winning again [hope against hope]? Will he bolt to ensure they get another top-5 pick?

The trolls ensured us what we see happening could not be, that it is self-destructive at best, that there is no real hope unless the Blues burn down the house, and even then they would destroy the careers of their top draft choices turning them into grinding JAGs.

Yes, Army IS a genius. OK, maybe just very good at his job. Not afraid to put his neck on the line for a player or a whole team when following his instincts and judgement. Not always right but right far more often than not.

They have been playing Bedard on the wing lately, or at least some. I'm not counting him out by any means, but he may not be the "generational" talent many expected him to be.

I still think that in the long run of thier careers, Fantilli will be the better asset and Cellibrini already is.

Amazingly enough Celebrini might actually have been put in a better position to succeed.

San Jose has better players than Chicago. Chicago's complete tear down has been to the absolute studs and they haven't done much to rebuild at this point.

Sometimes no matter how great the player can be, not having something/one on the team that he can learn from can ruin a great prospect.

[MikoTython]

You gotta think Bedard will be prime RFA offer-sheet bait. Probably cannot wait to get out of Chi. Nice town & all, but atrocious hockey club. A waste of his talent.

[moose-and-squirrel]

You gotta think Bedard will be prime RFA offer-sheet bait. Probably cannot wait to get out of Chi. Nice town & all, but atrocious hockey club. A waste of his talent.

most likely any team that could afford to offer sheet him is just as bad as CHI is now

[wiscrev]

I was reading an article yesterday or the day before indicating Bedard is fielding advice (from Button and others) to not trust Black Hawks organization to build a winner around him, play out to RFA and invite offer sheets.

I mean, he's in draft pick nirvana we are lead to believe. How can this even be proposed or considered? What happens if the Hawks ever start winning again [hope against hope]? Will he bolt to ensure they get another top-5 pick?

The trolls ensured us what we see happening could not be, that it is self-destructive at best, that there is no real hope unless the Blues burn down the house, and even then they would destroy the careers of their top draft choices turning them into grinding JAGs.

Yes, Army IS a genius. OK, maybe just very good at his job. Not afraid to put his neck on the line for a player or a whole team when following his instincts and judgement. Not always right but right far more often than not.

I read that same thing but can't remember where is was.

[wiscrev]

I was reading an article yesterday or the day before indicating Bedard is fielding advice (from Button and others) to not trust Black Hawks organization to build a winner around him, play out to RFA and invite offer sheets.

I mean, he's in draft pick nirvana we are lead to believe. How can this even be proposed or considered? What happens if the Hawks ever start winning again [hope against hope]? Will he bolt to ensure they get another top-5 pick?

The trolls ensured us what we see happening could not be, that it is self-destructive at best, that there is no real hope unless the Blues burn down the house, and even then they would destroy the careers of their top draft choices turning them into grinding JAGs.

Yes, Army IS a genius. OK, maybe just very good at his job. Not afraid to put his neck on the line for a player or a whole team when following his instincts and judgement. Not always right but right far more often than not.

I read that same thing but can't remember where is was. What I got from it was he would play out until he is unrestricted.

[TheJackBurton]

You gotta think Bedard will be prime RFA offer-sheet bait. Probably cannot wait to get out of Chi. Nice town & all, but atrocious hockey club. A waste of his talent.

Any team that is going to offer sheet him to get to a point that Chicago won't match will decimate that teams future.

You'd be talking a max RFA contract that offers the maximum compensation.

Based on the start to his career can you see a team offer him 11+ million and giving away 4 first round draft picks?

That's about where the offer would have to land for Chicago to not match.

[MikoTython]

You gotta think Bedard will be prime RFA offer-sheet bait. Probably cannot wait to get out of Chi. Nice town & all, but atrocious hockey club. A waste of his talent.

Any team that is going to offer sheet him to get to a point that Chicago won't match will decimate that teams future.

You'd be talking a max RFA contract that offers the maximum compensation.

Based on the start to his career can you see a team offer him 11+ million and giving away 4 first round draft picks?

That's about where the offer would have to land for Chicago to not match.

Good info. The drafting team does retain a large point of leverage, all the way through the UFA stage, on that basis.