Contreras 5K 9ABs

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Re: Contreras 5K 9ABs

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nighthawk wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:50 am
rockondlouie wrote: 30 Mar 2025 08:46 am I know this will attract those who (incorrectly) think where a player hit in the order doesn't matter.

BUT

In his career, WillyC hitting #2:
.234 .334 .446 .780

Other than hitting 7th, this is his worse slash line.

It's very obvious WillyC and Donovan should be flipped w/Contreras in the #3 hole (.842 career OPS) where he belongs.

But this stupid theory hitting MOTO hitters in the #2 spot has infiltrated Oli's brain and he needs to correct it ASAP.

Noot
Donovan
WillyC
NADO
Hererra

That's your correct 1 - 5 (IMO) and I don't give a c ra p about the stupid L-R-L-R baloney either, put your hitters in the spot where their strengths can be maximized!

Cue scouty in 3-2-1............... :mrgreen:
Your attempt to disguise myopia with intelligence isn't working.

Your use of "myopia" shows us all we need to know about your lack of intelligence. :oops:
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Re: Contreras 5K 9ABs

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rockondlouie wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:29 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 30 Mar 2025 08:59 am
rockondlouie wrote: 30 Mar 2025 08:46 am I know this will attract those who (incorrectly) think where a player hit in the order doesn't matter.

BUT

In his career, WillyC hitting #2:
.234 .334 .446 .780

Other than hitting 7th, this is his worse slash line.

It's very obvious WillyC and Donovan should be flipped w/Contreras in the #3 hole (.842 career OPS) where he belongs.

But this stupid theory hitting MOTO hitters in the #2 spot has infiltrated Oli's brain and he needs to correct it ASAP.

Noot
Donovan
WillyC
NADO
Hererra

That's your correct 1 - 5 (IMO) and I don't give a c ra p about the stupid L-R-L-R baloney either, put your hitters in the spot where their strengths can be maximized!

Cue scouty in 3-2-1............... :mrgreen:
Lol. Also, tell us how he will hit when the weather warms up.

Rock going all Goldy can't hit based on place in batting order...after 2 games. :lol:
Never too early to help Oli, you know the Manager who all last year ignored my cries to get Winn out of the lead-off spot and put Noot there. :lol:
Noot was oft injured and Winn was impressing. Notice how I said he wouldn't do it when this season started, as you were crying about him leading off all ST
:lol:
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Re: Contreras 5K 9ABs

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jbrach wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:14 am
rockondlouie wrote: 30 Mar 2025 08:46 am I know this will attract those who (incorrectly) think where a player hit in the order doesn't matter.

BUT

In his career, WillyC hitting #2:
.234 .334 .446 .780

Other than hitting 7th, this is his worse slash line.

It's very obvious WillyC and Donovan should be flipped w/Contreras in the #3 hole (.842 career OPS) where he belongs.

But this stupid theory hitting MOTO hitters in the #2 spot has infiltrated Oli's brain and he needs to correct it ASAP.

Noot
Donovan
WillyC
NADO
Hererra

That's your correct 1 - 5 (IMO) and I don't give a c ra p about the stupid L-R-L-R baloney either, put your hitters in the spot where their strengths can be maximized!

Cue scouty in 3-2-1............... :mrgreen:
first of all he is an incredibly streaky hitter...second this obsession with batting order os ridiculous...trout batted second,bonds batted second for a period as have so many others...when he starts hitting which he will it wont matter where he is batting
WillyC is NOT a streaky hitter, your just making c r a p up to support your ignorant opinion that batting order doesn't matter.

Moron
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Re: Contreras 5K 9ABs

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:32 am
rockondlouie wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:29 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 30 Mar 2025 08:59 am
rockondlouie wrote: 30 Mar 2025 08:46 am I know this will attract those who (incorrectly) think where a player hit in the order doesn't matter.

BUT

In his career, WillyC hitting #2:
.234 .334 .446 .780

Other than hitting 7th, this is his worse slash line.

It's very obvious WillyC and Donovan should be flipped w/Contreras in the #3 hole (.842 career OPS) where he belongs.

But this stupid theory hitting MOTO hitters in the #2 spot has infiltrated Oli's brain and he needs to correct it ASAP.

Noot
Donovan
WillyC
NADO
Hererra

That's your correct 1 - 5 (IMO) and I don't give a c ra p about the stupid L-R-L-R baloney either, put your hitters in the spot where their strengths can be maximized!

Cue scouty in 3-2-1............... :mrgreen:
Lol. Also, tell us how he will hit when the weather warms up.

Rock going all Goldy can't hit based on place in batting order...after 2 games. :lol:
Never too early to help Oli, you know the Manager who all last year ignored my cries to get Winn out of the lead-off spot and put Noot there. :lol:
Noot was oft injured and Winn was impressing. Notice how I said he wouldn't do it when this season started, as you were crying about him leading off all ST
:lol:
8O

"Impressing"?

At lead-off w/that .290 OB% :lol:

You nailed that one but honestly had Winn even hit his weight, then we both know Oli would've kept him at lead-off.

BTW, NINE wins in a row for my surging BLues!
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rockondlouie wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:35 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:32 am
rockondlouie wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:29 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 30 Mar 2025 08:59 am
rockondlouie wrote: 30 Mar 2025 08:46 am I know this will attract those who (incorrectly) think where a player hit in the order doesn't matter.

BUT

In his career, WillyC hitting #2:
.234 .334 .446 .780

Other than hitting 7th, this is his worse slash line.

It's very obvious WillyC and Donovan should be flipped w/Contreras in the #3 hole (.842 career OPS) where he belongs.

But this stupid theory hitting MOTO hitters in the #2 spot has infiltrated Oli's brain and he needs to correct it ASAP.

Noot
Donovan
WillyC
NADO
Hererra

That's your correct 1 - 5 (IMO) and I don't give a c ra p about the stupid L-R-L-R baloney either, put your hitters in the spot where their strengths can be maximized!

Cue scouty in 3-2-1............... :mrgreen:
Lol. Also, tell us how he will hit when the weather warms up.

Rock going all Goldy can't hit based on place in batting order...after 2 games. :lol:
Never too early to help Oli, you know the Manager who all last year ignored my cries to get Winn out of the lead-off spot and put Noot there. :lol:
Noot was oft injured and Winn was impressing. Notice how I said he wouldn't do it when this season started, as you were crying about him leading off all ST
:lol:
8O

"Impressing"?

At lead-off w/that .290 OB% :lol:

You nailed that one but honestly had Winn even hit his weight, then we both know Oli would've kept him at lead-off.

BTW, NINE wins in a row for my surging BLues!
Good for the Blues. You don't ever give Oli credit. He has to see what they could do with Winn at leadoff and his speed. Remember, Hurdy Gurdy was injured last year too
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:38 am
rockondlouie wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:35 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:32 am
rockondlouie wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:29 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 30 Mar 2025 08:59 am
rockondlouie wrote: 30 Mar 2025 08:46 am I know this will attract those who (incorrectly) think where a player hit in the order doesn't matter.

BUT

In his career, WillyC hitting #2:
.234 .334 .446 .780

Other than hitting 7th, this is his worse slash line.

It's very obvious WillyC and Donovan should be flipped w/Contreras in the #3 hole (.842 career OPS) where he belongs.

But this stupid theory hitting MOTO hitters in the #2 spot has infiltrated Oli's brain and he needs to correct it ASAP.

Noot
Donovan
WillyC
NADO
Hererra

That's your correct 1 - 5 (IMO) and I don't give a c ra p about the stupid L-R-L-R baloney either, put your hitters in the spot where their strengths can be maximized!

Cue scouty in 3-2-1............... :mrgreen:
Lol. Also, tell us how he will hit when the weather warms up.

Rock going all Goldy can't hit based on place in batting order...after 2 games. :lol:
Never too early to help Oli, you know the Manager who all last year ignored my cries to get Winn out of the lead-off spot and put Noot there. :lol:
Noot was oft injured and Winn was impressing. Notice how I said he wouldn't do it when this season started, as you were crying about him leading off all ST
:lol:
8O

"Impressing"?

At lead-off w/that .290 OB% :lol:

You nailed that one but honestly had Winn even hit his weight, then we both know Oli would've kept him at lead-off.

BTW, NINE wins in a row for my surging BLues!
Good for the Blues. You don't ever give Oli credit. He has to see what they could do with Winn at leadoff and his speed. Remember, Hurdy Gurdy was injured last year too
Wrong

I've given Oli credit for how he ran the pen' last year. :wink:

Other than that he's a moran.

SPEED? Winn?

Aren't you the guy who has made a dozen post screaming that he's "NOT A BASE STEALER". :roll:

BTW, I've saved you a seat on my Blues bandwagon. :lol:
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Goldfan wrote: 30 Mar 2025 08:21 am Should he Be sent down??
What happened to “Best” hitter on team?
Go outside and get some air.
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Goldfan wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:43 am
woofy25 wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:40 am
Goldfan wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:27 am
ecleme22 wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:18 am
Goldfan wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:07 am
ecleme22 wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:05 am
rockondlouie wrote: 30 Mar 2025 08:46 am I know this will attract those who (incorrectly) think where a player hit in the order doesn't matter.

BUT

In his career, WillyC hitting #2:
.234 .334 .446 .780

Other than hitting 7th, this is his worse slash line.

It's very obvious WillyC and Donovan should be flipped w/Contreras in the #3 hole (.842 career OPS) where he belongs.

But this stupid theory hitting MOTO hitters in the #2 spot has infiltrated Oli's brain and he needs to correct it ASAP.

Noot
Donovan
WillyC
NADO
Hererra

That's your correct 1 - 5 (IMO) and I don't give a c ra p about the stupid L-R-L-R baloney either, put your hitters in the spot where their strengths can be maximized!

Cue scouty in 3-2-1............... :mrgreen:
Says the guy complaining the last two seasons about Goldie batting 2nd.

Goldie hit freaking lead off for the yanks yesterday.and was 2-3 w a double and HR.

Lineup order really doesnt matter if the players are vets.
How many fewer RBI’s would Ruth have had batting leadoff his entire career?
Not the point…
Well sure it is. Scott and Winn have an OBP % of .250 and .125……Noot and Donovan have .667 and .333
Why would you ever have a Slugging hitter batting leadoff?
Why are you citing OBP after two games as reason for anything?
Can you score a run if not on base??? ::crazya:: ::crazya::
Yes
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Goldfan wrote: 30 Mar 2025 08:21 am Should he Be sent down??
What happened to “Best” hitter on team?
Desperate for attention this morning, aren’t we?
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Goldfan wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:25 am
ecleme22 wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:05 am
Goldfan wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:01 am
ecleme22 wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:47 am
Goldfan wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:35 am
ecleme22 wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:31 am
Goldfan wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:27 am
ecleme22 wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:18 am
Goldfan wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:07 am
ecleme22 wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:05 am
rockondlouie wrote: 30 Mar 2025 08:46 am I know this will attract those who (incorrectly) think where a player hit in the order doesn't matter.

BUT

In his career, WillyC hitting #2:
.234 .334 .446 .780

Other than hitting 7th, this is his worse slash line.

It's very obvious WillyC and Donovan should be flipped w/Contreras in the #3 hole (.842 career OPS) where he belongs.

But this stupid theory hitting MOTO hitters in the #2 spot has infiltrated Oli's brain and he needs to correct it ASAP.

Noot
Donovan
WillyC
NADO
Hererra

That's your correct 1 - 5 (IMO) and I don't give a c ra p about the stupid L-R-L-R baloney either, put your hitters in the spot where their strengths can be maximized!

Cue scouty in 3-2-1............... :mrgreen:
Says the guy complaining the last two seasons about Goldie batting 2nd.

Goldie hit freaking lead off for the yanks yesterday.and was 2-3 w a double and HR.

Lineup order really doesnt matter if the players are vets.
How many fewer RBI’s would Ruth have had batting leadoff his entire career?
Not the point…
Well sure it is. Scott and Winn have an OBP % of .250 and .125……Noot and Donovan have .667 and .333
Why would you ever have a Slugging hitter batting leadoff?
Not the point.

It's about if X player can produce in different spots in the order.
Well a prime Goldy, Ruth, Pujols,……most productive spot in a batting order is NEVER leadoff. 20% of season PA are guaranteed 0 opportunities with runners on base
Not the point.

See Rock's original post again and try and follow along...
Rocks point is that Goldy hit Better in the 3 hole…..and perhaps a degree of comfortability in hitting in the middle of a lineup if that’s where a player has spent his career…..but my point is it’s stupid to put an elite slugger at leadoff. Some analytic geek sees a .400 OBP and completely blocks out that the slug with runners on is much more important than wasting the .400OBP and watching him get left on by inferior bats behind him….now if you have a team full of Pujols I guess it doesn’t matter
Not the point.

Rock is talking player comfort and familiarity.

You’re talking about building a lineup.

We can talk the latter if you want, but it has nothing to do w Rock’s assertions.
“and perhaps a degree of comfortability in hitting in the middle of a lineup if that’s where a player has spent his career”
Yep.

Which is a different conversation than “how fewer RBIs would Ruth had if he batted LO?”
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Goldfan wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:27 am
ecleme22 wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:18 am
Goldfan wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:07 am
ecleme22 wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:05 am
rockondlouie wrote: 30 Mar 2025 08:46 am I know this will attract those who (incorrectly) think where a player hit in the order doesn't matter.

BUT

In his career, WillyC hitting #2:
.234 .334 .446 .780

Other than hitting 7th, this is his worse slash line.

It's very obvious WillyC and Donovan should be flipped w/Contreras in the #3 hole (.842 career OPS) where he belongs.

But this stupid theory hitting MOTO hitters in the #2 spot has infiltrated Oli's brain and he needs to correct it ASAP.

Noot
Donovan
WillyC
NADO
Hererra

That's your correct 1 - 5 (IMO) and I don't give a c ra p about the stupid L-R-L-R baloney either, put your hitters in the spot where their strengths can be maximized!

Cue scouty in 3-2-1............... :mrgreen:
Says the guy complaining the last two seasons about Goldie batting 2nd.

Goldie hit freaking lead off for the yanks yesterday.and was 2-3 w a double and HR.

Lineup order really doesnt matter if the players are vets.
How many fewer RBI’s would Ruth have had batting leadoff his entire career?
Not the point…
Well sure it is. Scott and Winn have an OBP % of .250 and .125……Noot and Donovan have .667 and .333
Why would you ever have a Slugging hitter batting leadoff?
Because he gets more PA's in a season. This is 2025, I thought we all moved past this.
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He never slumped over 9 at bats before? New to baseball???
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