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TAFKAP
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Re: End The Points System

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Pierre McGuire wrote: 29 Mar 2025 18:17 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 29 Mar 2025 18:01 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 29 Mar 2025 16:36 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 29 Mar 2025 14:37 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 29 Mar 2025 08:21 am The 3on3 is just dumb, it’s not hockey. Don’t say you like it…because if you do, you’re lying and not a hockey fan. No other sport does anything like that. The shootout is even dumber, don’t even get me started on that. Just go back to the 2pts for a win, 1pt for a tie and get rid of the loser point. Play an 8 min OT…if it ends in a tie so be it. This circus some of you are dreaming about with different point scoring systems or different OT formats isn’t even needed.
Then the NHL hasn't been "hockey" since the turn of the century. I guess the players aren't real players either because they approved the rule changes through the Competition Committee. I'm cool with the 3 on 3 and I like the shootout. You are in no position to judge what I'm a fan of considering you are ok with losing on purpose. THAT is more criminal than awarding a "Winners Point" for winning a shootout on a random Tuesday night in February.
Losing on purpose? You’ve got me confused with someone else.
I have enough respect for your knowledge that I know you're not a troll. Are you not on the record that the Blues didn't go far enough in tearing the team down? That they should have gone further? Tanking, to me, is losing on purpose. Trading pending UFA's when you don't plan on extending them is smart. Trading players on good NHL contracts, for picks, when there is nobody coming up to take their place (IE Schenn, Parayko, and Binnington) is losing on purpose and it sucks. If they had traded Schenn to the Leafs for Knies (Highly unlikely) or a package of young talent because he wanted to go I'd understand. I don't support tank jobs. It's (bleep). It cheats the fans and the players left.
I don’t see moving players out as losing on purpose. You can still win by moving players for picks. We are better than we have been all year and and we are doing it without who many would say is our best player. Would I have moved a few guys for picks and prospects…definitely. Would I have replaced those guys with guys such as Dvorsky and Snuggerud….without question.
I agree with pretty much everything DA has done. Including keeping players that would have cost us wins, gotten a better draft position and more picks. I think he's pretty much written the book on how to do a retool and still not destroy the culture. Chicago has no culture, neither does Buffalo. Sad. Again I respect your knowledge so "agree to disagree" I just got bristly being called a liar and a fake fan. My friends, family, and the guys who's (donkey) I'm currently kicking on my way to my 3rd Fantasy Hockey Championship in 4 years would disagree with you. Have a good weekend Tim.
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Re: End The Points System

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smegma wrote: 29 Mar 2025 02:22 am How about if there is still a tie after 3 on 3. The refs leave the ice, and we go to 3 on 3 with no rules and who ever gets the puck in the net is the victor. 2 points no tie point allowed. Or just go back to the tie each team gets a point, but there is no way the NHL will get rid of the shootout.
LOL! That’s pretty much how the game was played in the 1971-1976 timeframe after a Broad Street Bullies vs Blues brawl. Lots of penalties, 3 on 3, and lots of slashed and cross checks!

Bring on the Hanson Brothers!!
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Re: End The Points System

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TAFKAP wrote: 29 Mar 2025 18:36 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 29 Mar 2025 18:17 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 29 Mar 2025 18:01 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 29 Mar 2025 16:36 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 29 Mar 2025 14:37 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 29 Mar 2025 08:21 am The 3on3 is just dumb, it’s not hockey. Don’t say you like it…because if you do, you’re lying and not a hockey fan. No other sport does anything like that. The shootout is even dumber, don’t even get me started on that. Just go back to the 2pts for a win, 1pt for a tie and get rid of the loser point. Play an 8 min OT…if it ends in a tie so be it. This circus some of you are dreaming about with different point scoring systems or different OT formats isn’t even needed.
Then the NHL hasn't been "hockey" since the turn of the century. I guess the players aren't real players either because they approved the rule changes through the Competition Committee. I'm cool with the 3 on 3 and I like the shootout. You are in no position to judge what I'm a fan of considering you are ok with losing on purpose. THAT is more criminal than awarding a "Winners Point" for winning a shootout on a random Tuesday night in February.
Losing on purpose? You’ve got me confused with someone else.
I have enough respect for your knowledge that I know you're not a troll. Are you not on the record that the Blues didn't go far enough in tearing the team down? That they should have gone further? Tanking, to me, is losing on purpose. Trading pending UFA's when you don't plan on extending them is smart. Trading players on good NHL contracts, for picks, when there is nobody coming up to take their place (IE Schenn, Parayko, and Binnington) is losing on purpose and it sucks. If they had traded Schenn to the Leafs for Knies (Highly unlikely) or a package of young talent because he wanted to go I'd understand. I don't support tank jobs. It's (bleep). It cheats the fans and the players left.
I don’t see moving players out as losing on purpose. You can still win by moving players for picks. We are better than we have been all year and and we are doing it without who many would say is our best player. Would I have moved a few guys for picks and prospects…definitely. Would I have replaced those guys with guys such as Dvorsky and Snuggerud….without question.
I agree with pretty much everything DA has done. Including keeping players that would have cost us wins, gotten a better draft position and more picks. I think he's pretty much written the book on how to do a retool and still not destroy the culture. Chicago has no culture, neither does Buffalo. Sad. Again I respect your knowledge so "agree to disagree" I just got bristly being called a liar and a fake fan. My friends, family, and the guys who's (donkey) I'm currently kicking on my way to my 3rd Fantasy Hockey Championship in 4 years would disagree with you. Have a good weekend Tim.
TAFKAP…I know you are a fan. We might like our hockey a little differently but I know from reading your posts you’re a passionate fan.
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Re: End The Points System

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Pierre McGuire wrote: 29 Mar 2025 16:38 pm
netboy65 wrote: 29 Mar 2025 14:45 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 29 Mar 2025 08:21 am The 3on3 is just dumb, it’s not hockey. Don’t say you like it…because if you do, you’re lying and not a hockey fan. No other sport does anything like that. The shootout is even dumber, don’t even get me started on that. Just go back to the 2pts for a win, 1pt for a tie and get rid of the loser point. Play an 8 min OT…if it ends in a tie so be it. This circus some of you are dreaming about with different point scoring systems or different OT formats isn’t even needed.
Actually other sports do. Baseball starts with a runner on 2nd in extra innings. College football each team gets the ball on the 25 yard line going in. Even the NFL allows both teams to possess the ball in OT if a FG is scored.
They don’t play 7 on 7 in football so they? They don’t go to 5 players in the field in baseball do they? No sport is putting less players on the field of play in OT.
A gimmick is a gimmick.
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Re: End The Points System

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Pierre McGuire wrote: 29 Mar 2025 19:27 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 29 Mar 2025 18:36 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 29 Mar 2025 18:17 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 29 Mar 2025 18:01 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 29 Mar 2025 16:36 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 29 Mar 2025 14:37 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 29 Mar 2025 08:21 am The 3on3 is just dumb, it’s not hockey. Don’t say you like it…because if you do, you’re lying and not a hockey fan. No other sport does anything like that. The shootout is even dumber, don’t even get me started on that. Just go back to the 2pts for a win, 1pt for a tie and get rid of the loser point. Play an 8 min OT…if it ends in a tie so be it. This circus some of you are dreaming about with different point scoring systems or different OT formats isn’t even needed.
Then the NHL hasn't been "hockey" since the turn of the century. I guess the players aren't real players either because they approved the rule changes through the Competition Committee. I'm cool with the 3 on 3 and I like the shootout. You are in no position to judge what I'm a fan of considering you are ok with losing on purpose. THAT is more criminal than awarding a "Winners Point" for winning a shootout on a random Tuesday night in February.
Losing on purpose? You’ve got me confused with someone else.
I have enough respect for your knowledge that I know you're not a troll. Are you not on the record that the Blues didn't go far enough in tearing the team down? That they should have gone further? Tanking, to me, is losing on purpose. Trading pending UFA's when you don't plan on extending them is smart. Trading players on good NHL contracts, for picks, when there is nobody coming up to take their place (IE Schenn, Parayko, and Binnington) is losing on purpose and it sucks. If they had traded Schenn to the Leafs for Knies (Highly unlikely) or a package of young talent because he wanted to go I'd understand. I don't support tank jobs. It's (bleep). It cheats the fans and the players left.
I don’t see moving players out as losing on purpose. You can still win by moving players for picks. We are better than we have been all year and and we are doing it without who many would say is our best player. Would I have moved a few guys for picks and prospects…definitely. Would I have replaced those guys with guys such as Dvorsky and Snuggerud….without question.
I agree with pretty much everything DA has done. Including keeping players that would have cost us wins, gotten a better draft position and more picks. I think he's pretty much written the book on how to do a retool and still not destroy the culture. Chicago has no culture, neither does Buffalo. Sad. Again I respect your knowledge so "agree to disagree" I just got bristly being called a liar and a fake fan. My friends, family, and the guys who's (donkey) I'm currently kicking on my way to my 3rd Fantasy Hockey Championship in 4 years would disagree with you. Have a good weekend Tim.
TAFKAP…I know you are a fan. We might like our hockey a little differently but I know from reading your posts you’re a passionate fan.
You too, you have forgotten more about players and what goes into their development than I will ever know. Mad respect.
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