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craviduce wrote: 25 Mar 2025 09:59 am
Cranny wrote: 25 Mar 2025 09:55 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 25 Mar 2025 09:49 am
Cranny wrote: 25 Mar 2025 09:42 am I’m simply saying that I’m more excited about the Wetherholts and Scotts than the Baezes and Fletchers. And that we’re hurting for hitters in the system who have some pop. Especially outfielders.
That’s all. I’m a fan of Chase Davis and hope we get an OFer to match his ceiling coming through the system soon. If it’s at #5, fine. If it’s in the second or third round, that’s fine too.
We have no idea if Wetherholt will even have as good of a season as Walker had offensively in 2023. And Scott has a career .502 OPS right now. Watching Jordan Walker come up through the system was quite exciting. I’d take another talent like him every day of the week and twice on Sunday. You’re not going to hit on all of them. College players fail just like HS players do.

Since 2010, the best #5 overall pick was OF Kyle Tucker, a high schooler. The next most successful was a college LHP Drew Pomeranz. The third was another high schooler, OF Riley Greene.
All I’m saying is that with a college player from a major conference you have 3 more years to go on and analyze. And the chances are, a college player at #5 probably has a better chance of helping the the major league Cardinals sooner than the high school kid.
That’s all.
then you'll currently love Gavin Kilen, Aiva Arquette, and Marek Houston. Not the best power, but some is there. They won't be anchoring the #4 spot in the lineup anytime soon, but they're your best college hitters...at the moment.
I actually like Taylor, Summerhill, Nevens, Camarillo, and Belyeu. And of course LaViolette, but he probably won’t be there at #5.
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Cranny wrote: 25 Mar 2025 10:09 am
craviduce wrote: 25 Mar 2025 09:59 am
Cranny wrote: 25 Mar 2025 09:55 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 25 Mar 2025 09:49 am
Cranny wrote: 25 Mar 2025 09:42 am I’m simply saying that I’m more excited about the Wetherholts and Scotts than the Baezes and Fletchers. And that we’re hurting for hitters in the system who have some pop. Especially outfielders.
That’s all. I’m a fan of Chase Davis and hope we get an OFer to match his ceiling coming through the system soon. If it’s at #5, fine. If it’s in the second or third round, that’s fine too.
We have no idea if Wetherholt will even have as good of a season as Walker had offensively in 2023. And Scott has a career .502 OPS right now. Watching Jordan Walker come up through the system was quite exciting. I’d take another talent like him every day of the week and twice on Sunday. You’re not going to hit on all of them. College players fail just like HS players do.

Since 2010, the best #5 overall pick was OF Kyle Tucker, a high schooler. The next most successful was a college LHP Drew Pomeranz. The third was another high schooler, OF Riley Greene.
All I’m saying is that with a college player from a major conference you have 3 more years to go on and analyze. And the chances are, a college player at #5 probably has a better chance of helping the the major league Cardinals sooner than the high school kid.
That’s all.
then you'll currently love Gavin Kilen, Aiva Arquette, and Marek Houston. Not the best power, but some is there. They won't be anchoring the #4 spot in the lineup anytime soon, but they're your best college hitters...at the moment.
I actually like Taylor, Summerhill, Nevens, Camarillo, and Belyeu. And of course LaViolette, but he probably won’t be there at #5.
Summerhill hasn't/may not come in to the expectant power some pundits are claiming. He hasn't in 3 years of college. That's okay, he apparently can hit, and that's a plus. Cannarella can hit, has his entire career...no power, legit 4 tool player, but still suffering from his Shoulder Surgery in September...he has no double power at the moment, it makes you concerned he may need more procedures. Belyeu has zapped his power this year in favor of contact...what I talked about earlier..."New Metta". Neyens is a swing first, apologize later High School power hitter....you want fast risers....he won't be it. He's likely your Gorman type that will fall to someone in the 20's. Taylor is a 1-2 tool player, there's a lot to like, but he'll likely be drafted 10-15. LaViolette will drop out of the Top 10, maybe Top 15...he's an older version of your Gorman fears....horrible chase rate.
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always enjoyable Cubbie website mock....this time he has them taking the disappointing Tre Phelps. Cards get RHP, Seth Hernandez

any mock is a fun mock to read, so I'm not judging...too much :wink:

https://www.bleachernation.com/mlb/2025 ... raft-0325/
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craviduce wrote: 25 Mar 2025 10:21 am
Cranny wrote: 25 Mar 2025 10:09 am
craviduce wrote: 25 Mar 2025 09:59 am
Cranny wrote: 25 Mar 2025 09:55 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 25 Mar 2025 09:49 am
Cranny wrote: 25 Mar 2025 09:42 am I’m simply saying that I’m more excited about the Wetherholts and Scotts than the Baezes and Fletchers. And that we’re hurting for hitters in the system who have some pop. Especially outfielders.
That’s all. I’m a fan of Chase Davis and hope we get an OFer to match his ceiling coming through the system soon. If it’s at #5, fine. If it’s in the second or third round, that’s fine too.
We have no idea if Wetherholt will even have as good of a season as Walker had offensively in 2023. And Scott has a career .502 OPS right now. Watching Jordan Walker come up through the system was quite exciting. I’d take another talent like him every day of the week and twice on Sunday. You’re not going to hit on all of them. College players fail just like HS players do.

Since 2010, the best #5 overall pick was OF Kyle Tucker, a high schooler. The next most successful was a college LHP Drew Pomeranz. The third was another high schooler, OF Riley Greene.
All I’m saying is that with a college player from a major conference you have 3 more years to go on and analyze. And the chances are, a college player at #5 probably has a better chance of helping the the major league Cardinals sooner than the high school kid.
That’s all.
then you'll currently love Gavin Kilen, Aiva Arquette, and Marek Houston. Not the best power, but some is there. They won't be anchoring the #4 spot in the lineup anytime soon, but they're your best college hitters...at the moment.
I actually like Taylor, Summerhill, Nevens, Camarillo, and Belyeu. And of course LaViolette, but he probably won’t be there at #5.
Summerhill hasn't/may not come in to the expectant power some pundits are claiming. He hasn't in 3 years of college. That's okay, he apparently can hit, and that's a plus. Cannarella can hit, has his entire career...no power, legit 4 tool player, but still suffering from his Shoulder Surgery in September...he has no double power at the moment, it makes you concerned he may need more procedures. Belyeu has zapped his power this year in favor of contact...what I talked about earlier..."New Metta". Neyens is a swing first, apologize later High School power hitter....you want fast risers....he won't be it. He's likely your Gorman type that will fall to someone in the 20's. Taylor is a 1-2 tool player, there's a lot to like, but he'll likely be drafted 10-15. LaViolette will drop out of the Top 10, maybe Top 15...he's an older version of your Gorman fears....horrible chase rate.
Thank you for the information, Crav.
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more mocks rolling in....I'm loving this week!!!!

MyMLBdraft...he's been around for years....his first midseason mock.

he has Some risers in there, a few that he's hanging on to...

enjoy

http://www.mymlbdraft.com/MLB-Mock-Draft

Aiva Arquette, SS, Oregon State
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craviduce wrote: 25 Mar 2025 11:02 am more mocks rolling in....I'm loving this week!!!!

MyMLBdraft...he's been around for years....his first midseason mock.

he has Some risers in there, a few that he's hanging on to...

enjoy

http://www.mymlbdraft.com/MLB-Mock-Draft

Aiva Arquette, SS, Oregon State
"LaViolette will drop out of the Top 10, maybe Top 15...he's an older version of your Gorman fears....horrible chase rate". I noticed, LaViolette is slated to go #1 overall in the entire draft in this mock. That's quite a discrepancy from what you posted regarding LaViolette.
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Shady wrote: 25 Mar 2025 11:10 am
craviduce wrote: 25 Mar 2025 11:02 am more mocks rolling in....I'm loving this week!!!!

MyMLBdraft...he's been around for years....his first midseason mock.

he has Some risers in there, a few that he's hanging on to...

enjoy

http://www.mymlbdraft.com/MLB-Mock-Draft

Aiva Arquette, SS, Oregon State
"LaViolette will drop out of the Top 10, maybe Top 15...he's an older version of your Gorman fears....horrible chase rate". I noticed, LaViolette is slated to go #1 overall in the entire draft in this mock. That's quite a discrepancy from what you posted regarding LaViolette.
context was given.

and I post all mocks, no matter how I feel or others feel about a player. Each mock has something, even if you can't discern it right away, but they have at least some new knowledge. Sometimes, you have to do the work and look up a player who you've seen on the rise/decline to gain that knowledge. Other times, the author spells it out for you.

you make your own decision, I just try to provide all the current info I can on a player.

2025 Stats exist, and the few flaws that LaViolette had coming into this season have been exasperated X 10: Swing and Miss ; low hit rate. All of that has him trending on most mocks on the way down.
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craviduce wrote: 25 Mar 2025 11:22 am
Shady wrote: 25 Mar 2025 11:10 am
craviduce wrote: 25 Mar 2025 11:02 am more mocks rolling in....I'm loving this week!!!!

MyMLBdraft...he's been around for years....his first midseason mock.

he has Some risers in there, a few that he's hanging on to...

enjoy

http://www.mymlbdraft.com/MLB-Mock-Draft

Aiva Arquette, SS, Oregon State
"LaViolette will drop out of the Top 10, maybe Top 15...he's an older version of your Gorman fears....horrible chase rate". I noticed, LaViolette is slated to go #1 overall in the entire draft in this mock. That's quite a discrepancy from what you posted regarding LaViolette.
context was given.

and I post all mocks, no matter how I feel or others feel about a player. Each mock has something, even if you can't discern it right away, but they have at least some new knowledge. Sometimes, you have to do the work and look up a player who you've seen on the rise/decline to gain that knowledge. Other times, the author spells it out for you.

you make your own decision, I just try to provide all the current info I can on a player.

2025 Stats exist, and the few flaws that LaViolette had coming into this season have been exasperated X 10: Swing and Miss ; low hit rate. All of that has him trending on most mocks on the way down.
"The mock that currently says what I want it to say is THE definitive mock. Until it doesn't say what I want, at which point I will casually disregard it and move on to another that better confirms my priors . . ."
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craviduce wrote: 25 Mar 2025 11:22 am
Shady wrote: 25 Mar 2025 11:10 am
craviduce wrote: 25 Mar 2025 11:02 am more mocks rolling in....I'm loving this week!!!!

MyMLBdraft...he's been around for years....his first midseason mock.

he has Some risers in there, a few that he's hanging on to...

enjoy

http://www.mymlbdraft.com/MLB-Mock-Draft

Aiva Arquette, SS, Oregon State
"LaViolette will drop out of the Top 10, maybe Top 15...he's an older version of your Gorman fears....horrible chase rate". I noticed, LaViolette is slated to go #1 overall in the entire draft in this mock. That's quite a discrepancy from what you posted regarding LaViolette.
context was given.

and I post all mocks, no matter how I feel or others feel about a player. Each mock has something, even if you can't discern it right away, but they have at least some new knowledge. Sometimes, you have to do the work and look up a player who you've seen on the rise/decline to gain that knowledge. Other times, the author spells it out for you.

you make your own decision, I just try to provide all the current info I can on a player.

2025 Stats exist, and the few flaws that LaViolette had coming into this season have been exasperated X 10: Swing and Miss ; low hit rate. All of that has him trending on most mocks on the way down.
However, as I pointed out, you and this particular draft mock on March 21 have quite a difference of opinion on LaViolette. Being slated as the #1 pick in the entire draft compared to not even in the top 15 is remarkable. IMO.
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Shady wrote: 25 Mar 2025 11:29 am
craviduce wrote: 25 Mar 2025 11:22 am
Shady wrote: 25 Mar 2025 11:10 am
craviduce wrote: 25 Mar 2025 11:02 am more mocks rolling in....I'm loving this week!!!!

MyMLBdraft...he's been around for years....his first midseason mock.

he has Some risers in there, a few that he's hanging on to...

enjoy

http://www.mymlbdraft.com/MLB-Mock-Draft

Aiva Arquette, SS, Oregon State
"LaViolette will drop out of the Top 10, maybe Top 15...he's an older version of your Gorman fears....horrible chase rate". I noticed, LaViolette is slated to go #1 overall in the entire draft in this mock. That's quite a discrepancy from what you posted regarding LaViolette.
context was given.

and I post all mocks, no matter how I feel or others feel about a player. Each mock has something, even if you can't discern it right away, but they have at least some new knowledge. Sometimes, you have to do the work and look up a player who you've seen on the rise/decline to gain that knowledge. Other times, the author spells it out for you.

you make your own decision, I just try to provide all the current info I can on a player.

2025 Stats exist, and the few flaws that LaViolette had coming into this season have been exasperated X 10: Swing and Miss ; low hit rate. All of that has him trending on most mocks on the way down.
However, as I pointed out, you and this particular draft mock on March 21 have quite a difference of opinion on Laviolette.
Wait, someone has a difference of an opinion on a college baseball player? STOP the presses!
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Prep Baseball released their midseason mock last week, and their new Top 200 board this week.

Enjoy!! Top 200 Draft board

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/news ... rch-update

and

last week's mock (which I posted last week, but let's put both together) :D

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/news ... rch-update
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craviduce wrote: 25 Mar 2025 14:26 pm Prep Baseball released their midseason mock last week, and their new Top 200 board this week.

Enjoy!! Top 200 Draft board

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/news ... rch-update

and

last week's mock (which I posted last week, but let's put both together) :D

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/news ... rch-update
"I noticed, LaViolette is slated to go #13 overall in the entire draft in this mock . . ."

"Remarkable. IMO."
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craviduce wrote: 25 Mar 2025 14:26 pm Prep Baseball released their midseason mock last week, and their new Top 200 board this week.

Enjoy!! Top 200 Draft board

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/news ... rch-update

and

last week's mock (which I posted last week, but let's put both together) :D

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/news ... rch-update
Hey, #172 is a kid from Missouri that plays 3B and has the last name of Norman. We could have Gorman and Norman! Norman Gorman! Play Gorman at 2B and have a 5-4-3 DP of Norman to Gorman
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NYCardsFan wrote: 25 Mar 2025 14:32 pm
craviduce wrote: 25 Mar 2025 14:26 pm Prep Baseball released their midseason mock last week, and their new Top 200 board this week.

Enjoy!! Top 200 Draft board

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/news ... rch-update

and

last week's mock (which I posted last week, but let's put both together) :D

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/news ... rch-update
"I noticed, LaViolette is slated to go #13 overall in the entire draft in this mock . . ."

"Remarkable. IMO."
I was able to Finagle a Mock Draft to do my nefarious bidding and rep my dastardly agenda
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craviduce wrote: 25 Mar 2025 15:07 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 25 Mar 2025 14:32 pm
craviduce wrote: 25 Mar 2025 14:26 pm Prep Baseball released their midseason mock last week, and their new Top 200 board this week.

Enjoy!! Top 200 Draft board

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/news ... rch-update

and

last week's mock (which I posted last week, but let's put both together) :D

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/news ... rch-update
"I noticed, LaViolette is slated to go #13 overall in the entire draft in this mock . . ."

"Remarkable. IMO."
I was able to Finagle a Mock Draft to do my nefarious bidding and rep my agenda
“Now I will quietly slink away and wait to pop up again opportunistically when some other mock says what I want it to say . . .”
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craviduce wrote: 25 Mar 2025 15:07 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 25 Mar 2025 14:32 pm
craviduce wrote: 25 Mar 2025 14:26 pm Prep Baseball released their midseason mock last week, and their new Top 200 board this week.

Enjoy!! Top 200 Draft board

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/news ... rch-update

and

last week's mock (which I posted last week, but let's put both together) :D

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/news ... rch-update
"I noticed, LaViolette is slated to go #13 overall in the entire draft in this mock . . ."

"Remarkable. IMO."
I was able to Finagle a Mock Draft to do my nefarious bidding and rep my dastardly agenda
So even though they really need a young power hitting outfielder, preferably a collegiate player, there is no way the Cardinals should take LaViolette if he's there at #5. Is that how you feel? He's still at 1 to six, overall, in some mock drafts I've seen, fairly recently.
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