Kurt Warner had Isaac Bruce, Torey Holt, Marshall Faulk, Orlando Pace, etc.
He was not drafted high in the draft either - he was undrafted.
When the Rams went downhill, he went to NY and didn't make them better, then had a resurgence in ARI when they also had a great team including Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin.
Kurt actually did make the Giants better.
He was 5-4 and had them in playoff position when Tom Coughlin decided to pull the plug to start breaking in Eli Manning. Manning lost the next six before finally winning in the season finale, while Kurt (in typical Kurt fashion) supported Manning. Then in Arizona two coaches (Dennis Green and Whisenhunt) tried to start Matt Leinart over him only to eventually go back to Warner.
Kurt Warner had Isaac Bruce, Torey Holt, Marshall Faulk, Orlando Pace, etc.
He was not drafted high in the draft either - he was undrafted.
When the Rams went downhill, he went to NY and didn't make them better, then had a resurgence in ARI when they also had a great team including Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin.
Kurt actually did make the Giants better.
He was 5-4 and had them in playoff position when Tom Coughlin decided to pull the plug to start breaking in Eli Manning. Manning lost the next six before finally winning in the season finale, while Kurt (in typical Kurt fashion) supported Manning. Then in Arizona two coaches (Dennis Green and Whisenhunt) tried to start Matt Leinart over him only to eventually go back to Warner.
Hmm I won't dispute this at all. Kurt is a hell of a guy. Shoulda won that game against the Steelers.
Kurt Warner had Isaac Bruce, Torey Holt, Marshall Faulk, Orlando Pace, etc.
He was not drafted high in the draft either - he was undrafted.
When the Rams went downhill, he went to NY and didn't make them better, then had a resurgence in ARI when they also had a great team including Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin.
Kurt actually did make the Giants better.
He was 5-4 and had them in playoff position when Tom Coughlin decided to pull the plug to start breaking in Eli Manning. Manning lost the next six before finally winning in the season finale, while Kurt (in typical Kurt fashion) supported Manning. Then in Arizona two coaches (Dennis Green and Whisenhunt) tried to start Matt Leinart over him only to eventually go back to Warner.
Hmm I won't dispute this at all. Kurt is a hell of a guy. Shoulda won that game against the Steelers.
I thought you had to be a top 5 pick to be any good or lead a team.
Kurt Warner had Isaac Bruce, Torey Holt, Marshall Faulk, Orlando Pace, etc.
He was not drafted high in the draft either - he was undrafted.
When the Rams went downhill, he went to NY and didn't make them better, then had a resurgence in ARI when they also had a great team including Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin.
Kurt actually did make the Giants better.
He was 5-4 and had them in playoff position when Tom Coughlin decided to pull the plug to start breaking in Eli Manning. Manning lost the next six before finally winning in the season finale, while Kurt (in typical Kurt fashion) supported Manning. Then in Arizona two coaches (Dennis Green and Whisenhunt) tried to start Matt Leinart over him only to eventually go back to Warner.
Hmm I won't dispute this at all. Kurt is a hell of a guy. Shoulda won that game against the Steelers.
I thought you had to be a top 5 pick to be any good or lead a team.
Kurt Warner had Isaac Bruce, Torey Holt, Marshall Faulk, Orlando Pace, etc.
He was not drafted high in the draft either - he was undrafted.
When the Rams went downhill, he went to NY and didn't make them better, then had a resurgence in ARI when they also had a great team including Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin.
Kurt actually did make the Giants better.
He was 5-4 and had them in playoff position when Tom Coughlin decided to pull the plug to start breaking in Eli Manning. Manning lost the next six before finally winning in the season finale, while Kurt (in typical Kurt fashion) supported Manning. Then in Arizona two coaches (Dennis Green and Whisenhunt) tried to start Matt Leinart over him only to eventually go back to Warner.
Hmm I won't dispute this at all. Kurt is a hell of a guy. Shoulda won that game against the Steelers.
I thought you had to be a top 5 pick to be any good or lead a team.
Love that they introduced Warner into the discussion without realizing it contradicted the whole point
sdaltons wrote: ↑24 Mar 2025 20:37 pm
Love that they introduced Warner into the discussion without realizing it contradicted the whole point
So what is your solution?
Armstrong has found no Top50 stars in the draft thus far, but you think that he is going to find the next Kurt Warner on skates in Round 8--ahead of all the other teams?
sdaltons wrote: ↑24 Mar 2025 20:37 pm
Love that they introduced Warner into the discussion without realizing it contradicted the whole point
So what is your solution?
Armstrong has found no Top50 stars in the draft thus far, but you think that he is going to find the next Kurt Warner on skates in Round 8--ahead of all the other teams?
There is no 8th round, so yes, that would be impressive.
