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Zach Dean

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Is he hurt again? Hasn’t played a game for Springfield in awhile
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Re: Zach Dean

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Yep.

He’s been listed as “day to day” for a few weeks now. 🤷‍♂️

https://springfieldthunderbirds.com/roster
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Re: Zach Dean

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STL fan in MN wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:17 am Yep.

He’s been listed as “day to day” for a few weeks now. 🤷‍♂️

https://springfieldthunderbirds.com/roster
Thanks. I went there before post. Don’t see where it says he’s dtd, but just saw he’s been at 9 games for quite a bit now. Is it the same lower body injury as before or something else?
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Re: Zach Dean

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noted wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:52 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:17 am Yep.

He’s been listed as “day to day” for a few weeks now. 🤷‍♂️

https://springfieldthunderbirds.com/roster
Thanks. I went there before post. Don’t see where it says he’s dtd, but just saw he’s been at 9 games for quite a bit now. Is it the same lower body injury as before or something else?
I’m not sure how old he is but I think we’re getting close to “cut bait” time with him
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Re: Zach Dean

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netboy65 wrote: 22 Mar 2025 12:43 pm
noted wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:52 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:17 am Yep.

He’s been listed as “day to day” for a few weeks now. 🤷‍♂️

https://springfieldthunderbirds.com/roster
Thanks. I went there before post. Don’t see where it says he’s dtd, but just saw he’s been at 9 games for quite a bit now. Is it the same lower body injury as before or something else?
I’m not sure how old he is but I think we’re getting close to “cut bait” time with him
22.. plenty of time for him
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Re: Zach Dean

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noted wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:52 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:17 am Yep.

He’s been listed as “day to day” for a few weeks now. 🤷‍♂️

https://springfieldthunderbirds.com/roster
Thanks. I went there before post. Don’t see where it says he’s dtd, but just saw he’s been at 9 games for quite a bit now. Is it the same lower body injury as before or something else?
Click on “injury report” up at the top.

No idea if the new injury is also the old injury. Injury updates on the T-birds are hard to come by.

Not quite ready to cut bait on him but it’s been a lost season unfortunately.
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Re: Zach Dean

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STL fan in MN wrote: 22 Mar 2025 22:15 pm
noted wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:52 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:17 am Yep.

He’s been listed as “day to day” for a few weeks now. 🤷‍♂️

https://springfieldthunderbirds.com/roster
Thanks. I went there before post. Don’t see where it says he’s dtd, but just saw he’s been at 9 games for quite a bit now. Is it the same lower body injury as before or something else?
Click on “injury report” up at the top.

No idea if the new injury is also the old injury. Injury updates on the T-birds are hard to come by.

Not quite ready to cut bait on him but it’s been a lost season unfortunately.
No idea what's going on with him injury-wise, but he was pushing for a roster spot last year/over the summer.

The only player I thought that looked more mature and ready than him last summer was Bolduc.

Considering we traded Barbs for him, I think it's fair to compare:

Barbs age 22 was splitting time between NHL and AHL (under Chief) and had 12 points in 53 NHL games. People were wondering the same thing about him.

Barbs age 23 was 2018-2019 season - his first full season in the NHL, garnering 11min of ice time per game with 26 total points. We all know his role that season, and I'm not suggesting Dean can play the same role. However, I do think Dean has always projected closer to Barbs' age 26-29 seasons and would rather not just give up on him at this point.
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Re: Zach Dean

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netboy65 wrote: 22 Mar 2025 12:43 pm
noted wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:52 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:17 am Yep.

He’s been listed as “day to day” for a few weeks now. 🤷‍♂️

https://springfieldthunderbirds.com/roster
Thanks. I went there before post. Don’t see where it says he’s dtd, but just saw he’s been at 9 games for quite a bit now. Is it the same lower body injury as before or something else?
I’m not sure how old he is but I think we’re getting close to “cut bait” time with him
Hes only 22
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Re: Zach Dean

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Not sure what I would do if these same ____ guys don't keep getting hurt.
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Re: Zach Dean

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zamadoo wrote: 23 Mar 2025 08:52 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 22 Mar 2025 22:15 pm
noted wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:52 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:17 am Yep.

He’s been listed as “day to day” for a few weeks now. 🤷‍♂️

https://springfieldthunderbirds.com/roster
Thanks. I went there before post. Don’t see where it says he’s dtd, but just saw he’s been at 9 games for quite a bit now. Is it the same lower body injury as before or something else?
Click on “injury report” up at the top.

No idea if the new injury is also the old injury. Injury updates on the T-birds are hard to come by.

Not quite ready to cut bait on him but it’s been a lost season unfortunately.
No idea what's going on with him injury-wise, but he was pushing for a roster spot last year/over the summer.

The only player I thought that looked more mature and ready than him last summer was Bolduc.

Considering we traded Barbs for him, I think it's fair to compare:

Barbs age 22 was splitting time between NHL and AHL (under Chief) and had 12 points in 53 NHL games. People were wondering the same thing about him.

Barbs age 23 was 2018-2019 season - his first full season in the NHL, garnering 11min of ice time per game with 26 total points. We all know his role that season, and I'm not suggesting Dean can play the same role. However, I do think Dean has always projected closer to Barbs' age 26-29 seasons and would rather not just give up on him at this point.
The few games he got in last season, I remember him being a little overwhelmed physically, but he seemed to be in the right spots and seemed to think the game pretty well for a rookie center. His faceoffs (again, going off memory) were better than anticipated as well.

He's not ever going to be a big time scorer in the NHL, but if he can come in and provide solid 3/4 line play, maybe kill penalties as he builds that trust with the coaching staff, I'm certain he'll have a decent career.
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Re: Zach Dean

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Wattage wrote: 23 Mar 2025 11:42 am
netboy65 wrote: 22 Mar 2025 12:43 pm
noted wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:52 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:17 am Yep.

He’s been listed as “day to day” for a few weeks now. 🤷‍♂️

https://springfieldthunderbirds.com/roster
Thanks. I went there before post. Don’t see where it says he’s dtd, but just saw he’s been at 9 games for quite a bit now. Is it the same lower body injury as before or something else?
I’m not sure how old he is but I think we’re getting close to “cut bait” time with him
Hes only 22
I didn’t say were there yet, but it is getting close
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Re: Zach Dean

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netboy65 wrote: 23 Mar 2025 11:58 am
Wattage wrote: 23 Mar 2025 11:42 am
netboy65 wrote: 22 Mar 2025 12:43 pm
noted wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:52 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:17 am Yep.

He’s been listed as “day to day” for a few weeks now. 🤷‍♂️

https://springfieldthunderbirds.com/roster
Thanks. I went there before post. Don’t see where it says he’s dtd, but just saw he’s been at 9 games for quite a bit now. Is it the same lower body injury as before or something else?
I’m not sure how old he is but I think we’re getting close to “cut bait” time with him
Hes only 22
I didn’t say were there yet, but it is getting close
Not really.
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Re: Zach Dean

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skilles wrote: 23 Mar 2025 12:45 pm
netboy65 wrote: 23 Mar 2025 11:58 am
Wattage wrote: 23 Mar 2025 11:42 am
netboy65 wrote: 22 Mar 2025 12:43 pm
noted wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:52 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:17 am Yep.

He’s been listed as “day to day” for a few weeks now. 🤷‍♂️

https://springfieldthunderbirds.com/roster
Thanks. I went there before post. Don’t see where it says he’s dtd, but just saw he’s been at 9 games for quite a bit now. Is it the same lower body injury as before or something else?
I’m not sure how old he is but I think we’re getting close to “cut bait” time with him
Hes only 22
I didn’t say were there yet, but it is getting close
Not really.
Sure it is. Especially if he can’t stay on the ice
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Re: Zach Dean

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netboy65 wrote: 23 Mar 2025 12:57 pm
skilles wrote: 23 Mar 2025 12:45 pm
netboy65 wrote: 23 Mar 2025 11:58 am
Wattage wrote: 23 Mar 2025 11:42 am
netboy65 wrote: 22 Mar 2025 12:43 pm
noted wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:52 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:17 am Yep.

He’s been listed as “day to day” for a few weeks now. 🤷‍♂️

https://springfieldthunderbirds.com/roster
Thanks. I went there before post. Don’t see where it says he’s dtd, but just saw he’s been at 9 games for quite a bit now. Is it the same lower body injury as before or something else?
I’m not sure how old he is but I think we’re getting close to “cut bait” time with him
Hes only 22
I didn’t say were there yet, but it is getting close
Not really.
Sure it is. Especially if he can’t stay on the ice
Why? Can you explain how not having him helps us?
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Re: Zach Dean

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skilles wrote: 23 Mar 2025 13:57 pm
netboy65 wrote: 23 Mar 2025 12:57 pm
skilles wrote: 23 Mar 2025 12:45 pm
netboy65 wrote: 23 Mar 2025 11:58 am
Wattage wrote: 23 Mar 2025 11:42 am
netboy65 wrote: 22 Mar 2025 12:43 pm
noted wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:52 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:17 am Yep.

He’s been listed as “day to day” for a few weeks now. 🤷‍♂️

https://springfieldthunderbirds.com/roster
Thanks. I went there before post. Don’t see where it says he’s dtd, but just saw he’s been at 9 games for quite a bit now. Is it the same lower body injury as before or something else?
I’m not sure how old he is but I think we’re getting close to “cut bait” time with him
Hes only 22
I didn’t say were there yet, but it is getting close
Not really.
Sure it is. Especially if he can’t stay on the ice
Why? Can you explain how not having him helps us?
Having him sure hasn’t yet. Fine, keep him in Springfield but I don’t think you should bank on him helping the Blues anytime soon. It’s been a couple years since we got him and he’s no closer now than he was then
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Re: Zach Dean

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SpacemanSpiff wrote: 23 Mar 2025 11:50 am
zamadoo wrote: 23 Mar 2025 08:52 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 22 Mar 2025 22:15 pm
noted wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:52 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 22 Mar 2025 10:17 am Yep.

He’s been listed as “day to day” for a few weeks now. 🤷‍♂️

https://springfieldthunderbirds.com/roster
Thanks. I went there before post. Don’t see where it says he’s dtd, but just saw he’s been at 9 games for quite a bit now. Is it the same lower body injury as before or something else?
Click on “injury report” up at the top.

No idea if the new injury is also the old injury. Injury updates on the T-birds are hard to come by.

Not quite ready to cut bait on him but it’s been a lost season unfortunately.
No idea what's going on with him injury-wise, but he was pushing for a roster spot last year/over the summer.

The only player I thought that looked more mature and ready than him last summer was Bolduc.

Considering we traded Barbs for him, I think it's fair to compare:

Barbs age 22 was splitting time between NHL and AHL (under Chief) and had 12 points in 53 NHL games. People were wondering the same thing about him.

Barbs age 23 was 2018-2019 season - his first full season in the NHL, garnering 11min of ice time per game with 26 total points. We all know his role that season, and I'm not suggesting Dean can play the same role. However, I do think Dean has always projected closer to Barbs' age 26-29 seasons and would rather not just give up on him at this point.
The few games he got in last season, I remember him being a little overwhelmed physically, but he seemed to be in the right spots and seemed to think the game pretty well for a rookie center. His faceoffs (again, going off memory) were better than anticipated as well.

He's not ever going to be a big time scorer in the NHL, but if he can come in and provide solid 3/4 line play, maybe kill penalties as he builds that trust with the coaching staff, I'm certain he'll have a decent career.
Agree with you both. Dean has essentially missed this entire season due to injury. That’s not the same thing as playing and playing so poorly as to show you likely don’t have an NHL future. Him missing this season (most of it anyway, maybe he’ll still return here) certainly isn’t good for his development but we simply don’t have any data from this season to go on. Agree that as recently as this summer, he appears to be the 2nd most NHL ready prospect after Bolduc. He still has plenty of time to recover and develop into an NHLer.
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