I guess we're down to Scott v Siani and Pallante v McGreevy

[wkycards]

C-Herrera
1B-Contreras
2B-Gorman
SS-Winn
3B-Arenado
LF-Donovan
CF-Nootbaar
RF-Walker
DH-Burleson

Bench = Pages, Baker, Barrero, ?

SP-Gray
SP-Fedde
SP-Mikolas
SP-Matz
SP-?

RP = Helsley, Romero, Fernandez, Maton, Libby, King, Roycroft, Leahy

I think Noot starts out in CF because that's the only way to get Gorman, Walker and Burleson in the lineup.
Gorman and Walker are going to play almost everyday, and I don't see them benching Burly against RH.
So, My guess is Siani gets the 4th OF spot so Scott can play everyday in Memphis.

The 5th SP will be Pallante, but I see McGreevy getting plenty of starts this year.

The only thing remaining is how they get Barrero on the 40man.
Thompson to 60 day IL or place someone on waivers.

[82birds]

C-Herrera
1B-Contreras
2B-Gorman
SS-Winn
3B-Arenado
LF-Donovan
CF-Nootbaar
RF-Walker
DH-Burleson

Bench = Pages, Baker, Barrero, ?

SP-Gray
SP-Fedde
SP-Mikolas
SP-Matz
SP-?

RP = Helsley, Romero, Fernandez, Maton, Libby, King, Roycroft, Leahy

I think Noot starts out in CF because that's the only way to get Gorman, Walker and Burleson in the lineup.
Gorman and Walker are going to play almost everyday, and I don't see them benching Burly against RH.
So, My guess is Siani gets the 4th OF spot so Scott can play everyday in Memphis.

The 5th SP will be Pallante, but I see McGreevy getting plenty of starts this year.

The only thing remaining is how they get Barrero on the 40man.
Thompson to 60 day IL or place someone on waivers.

good synopsis

[cardstatman]

C-Herrera, Pages
1B-Contreras
2B-Gorman
SS-Winn
3B-Arenado
LF-Donovan
CF-Nootbaar
RF-Walker
DH-Burleson, Baker

Bench OF = Siani vs Scott vs Barrero vs Helman vs Koperniak vs Vilade
Scott had a nice spring but since we have Nootbar in CF, I agree with the OP; go with Siani and let Scott play every day in Memphis.
Siani does play a lot because he replaces Walker in late innings for defense, and plays when an outfielder needs a day off.

Bench IF = Fermin vs Barrero vs Saggese vs Helman
Barrero is not on the 40-man which hurts his chances. Fermin is also outhitting him in ST.
I think they go with Fermin, but Fermin doesn't get to play much. If they go with Barrero, then they should play him.
Both deserve a better chance to be a MLB bench guy than they have received so far.

SP-Gray, Fedde, Mikolas, Matz, Pallante
RP = Helsley, Maton, Fernandez, Romero, King, Libby, Roycroft, Leahy

It is a rare thing when a team has no pitchers on the IL. Usually there are at least 3.
I see Maton opening the season on the IL since he hasn't pitched yet. Until he's ready, let McGreevy piggyback Pallante's starts.

Memphis
C Crooks, Collins
1B,DH Pozo, Vilade
2B Saggese, Helman
SS Barrero
3B Prieto, Mendoza
OF Koperniak, Scott, Torres, Antico
SP Mathews, Robberse, Munoz, Bedell, Graceffo, Hence
RP O'Brien, Granillo, Ralston, Garcia, Loutos, Heredia, Shreve (they have a bunch of AAAA guys, too, but the IL will open up spots)

[Quincy Varnish]

I think there’s a good chance both Siani & Scott make the roster. If not, it’s Scott.

[wkycards]

C-Herrera, Pages
1B-Contreras
2B-Gorman
SS-Winn
3B-Arenado
LF-Donovan
CF-Nootbaar
RF-Walker
DH-Burleson, Baker

Bench OF = Siani vs Scott vs Barrero vs Helman vs Koperniak vs Vilade
Scott had a nice spring but since we have Nootbar in CF, I agree with the OP; go with Siani and let Scott play every day in Memphis.
Siani does play a lot because he replaces Walker in late innings for defense, and plays when an outfielder needs a day off.

Bench IF = Fermin vs Barrero vs Saggese vs Helman
Barrero is not on the 40-man which hurts his chances. Fermin is also outhitting him in ST.
I think they go with Fermin, but Fermin doesn't get to play much. If they go with Barrero, then they should play him.
Both deserve a better chance to be a MLB bench guy than they have received so far.

SP-Gray, Fedde, Mikolas, Matz, Pallante
RP = Helsley, Maton, Fernandez, Romero, King, Libby, Roycroft, Leahy

It is a rare thing when a team has no pitchers on the IL. Usually there are at least 3.
I see Maton opening the season on the IL since he hasn't pitched yet. Until he's ready, let McGreevy piggyback Pallante's starts.

Memphis
C Crooks, Collins
1B,DH Pozo, Vilade
2B Saggese, Helman
SS Barrero
3B Prieto, Mendoza
OF Koperniak, Scott, Torres, Antico
SP Mathews, Robberse, Munoz, Bedell, Graceffo, Hence
RP O'Brien, Granillo, Ralston, Garcia, Loutos, Heredia, Shreve (they have a bunch of AAAA guys, too, but the IL will open up spots)

Nice write up. Cool you added Memphis.
I'm starting to lean more to Fermin, but still not sure what they will do.
Also, I'm still sticking to my Siani over Scott because of Gorman, Walker and Burleson playing everyday.

[Melville]

C-Herrera
1B-Contreras
2B-Gorman
SS-Winn
3B-Arenado
LF-Donovan
CF-Nootbaar
RF-Walker
DH-Burleson

Bench = Pages, Baker, Barrero, ?

SP-Gray
SP-Fedde
SP-Mikolas
SP-Matz
SP-?

RP = Helsley, Romero, Fernandez, Maton, Libby, King, Roycroft, Leahy

I think Noot starts out in CF because that's the only way to get Gorman, Walker and Burleson in the lineup.
Gorman and Walker are going to play almost everyday, and I don't see them benching Burly against RH.
So, My guess is Siani gets the 4th OF spot so Scott can play everyday in Memphis.

The 5th SP will be Pallante, but I see McGreevy getting plenty of starts this year.

The only thing remaining is how they get Barrero on the 40man.
Thompson to 60 day IL or place someone on waivers.

Fermin has likely moved ahead of Barrero.

[cardstatman]

I could see Siani vs Scott going either way.

I actually think it would be GOOD for the kids to only start 4-5 games a week.

Avoid overexposure and mental fatigue and give them more time to adjust back as the league adjusts to them.

C Herrera 108, Pages 54
1B Contreras 144, Baker 18
2B Gorman 126, Fermin/Barrero 36
SS Winn 144, Fermin/Barrero 18
3B Arenado 144, Fermin/Barrero 18
LF Donovan 126, Nootbar 36
CF Scott/Siani/Barrero 90, Nootbar 72
RF Walker 126, Nootbar 36
DH Burleson 108, Baker 54

Starts per player
144 Arenado, Contreras, Winn, Nootbar
126 Donovan, Gorman, Walker
108 Burleson, Herrera
90 Scott/Siani/Barrero
72 Baker, Fermin/Barrero
54 Pages

I'm sitting Donovan and Burleson against LHP. Donovan isn't awful against them, but he's not good. Burleson is awful.

[TXCardsFanX]

I could see Siani vs Scott going either way.

I actually think it would be GOOD for the kids to only start 4-5 games a week.

Avoid overexposure and mental fatigue and give them more time to adjust back as the league adjusts to them.

C Herrera 108, Pages 54
1B Contreras 144, Baker 18
2B Gorman 126, Fermin/Barrero 36
SS Winn 144, Fermin/Barrero 18
3B Arenado 144, Fermin/Barrero 18
LF Donovan 126, Nootbar 36
CF Scott/Siani/Barrero 90, Nootbar 72
RF Walker 126, Nootbar 36
DH Burleson 108, Baker 54

Starts per player
144 Arenado, Contreras, Winn, Nootbar
126 Donovan, Gorman, Walker
108 Burleson, Herrera
90 Scott/Siani/Barrero
72 Baker, Fermin/Barrero
54 Pages

I'm sitting Donovan and Burleson against LHP. Donovan isn't awful against them, but he's not good. Burleson is awful.

I agree. I think it's good to wean guys into the Bigs sometimes. If Scott bumps Siani (I think he should), he can still get plenty of MLB ABs as a 4th OFer. Many teams have a 4th OFer who gets plenty of ABs. Especially with the DH!

[AZ_Cardsfan]

A lot of good information presented in this thread. All I will add is unless he completely crashes the next week leaving Scott in AAA is a sin. He outplayed every other OFer on the team this spring.

[sdaltons]

To not move any of the starters, even for peanuts, to clear the way for both Pallante and McGreevy to be in the rotation says a lot about their stated goals for this year.

[Strummer Jones]

I seem to think that Fermin got the job over Barrero. If we bring Barrero north, we've got to keep him all year. Read an article here on that.

Feels like Siani will probably get the nod.

Also saw that Pallante is going north and in the rotation. I think it's coming down to McGreevy v. another relief pitcher. Maybe Roycroft.

[ecleme22]

Whatever the cards START with on OD and in April, it doesn’t matter.

If things falter in April, get ready.

It’s all about pitching. If the pitching begins to break, expect changes soon.

[icon]

Starting Nootbaar in CF is stupid for 3 reasons. First, it leaves no room for Scott, who supposedly is the future. Why not find out whether the future is now in a so-called reset? Second, Nootbaar has been beset with injuries in his short career, and playing CF will expose him to more than in LF. Third, he's not that great in CF.

And what is so great about Burly? Let Gorman mostly DH and Donovan play 2B. It might even help Gorman if he can focus more on hitting, because obviously that needs focus. Burly can be a bench bat who can back up at corner OF or 1B or DH. He'll still probably get plenty of PAs in that role.

And Donovan does not need to face a lot of LHP. He has 0 HRs in his career vs. LHP. Is that what you want in an everyday corner OF?

[82birds]

I seem to think that Fermin got the job over Barrero. If we bring Barrero north, we've got to keep him all year. Read an article here on that.

Feels like Siani will probably get the nod.

Also saw that Pallante is going north and in the rotation. I think it's coming down to McGreevy v. another relief pitcher. Maybe Roycroft.

unless they go with 6-man rotation

[Idaho Cards]

RE Scott- all 4th outfielders are not equal; the Cardinals tend to spread out starts among 10-12 players more than other orgs. therefore, it is my opion that Scott's 300 plate appearances vs Major League Pitching would be more valuable for him than 450-500 plate appearances at AAA. The disparity between MLB and AAA pitching is vast. IMO if Scott starts opening day as #4 he eventually moves into the top 3.

[2ninr]

Starting Nootbaar in CF is stupid for 3 reasons. First, it leaves no room for Scott, who supposedly is the future. Why not find out whether the future is now in a so-called reset? Second, Nootbaar has been beset with injuries in his short career, and playing CF will expose him to more than in LF. Third, he's not that great in CF.

And what is so great about Burly? Let Gorman mostly DH and Donovan play 2B. It might even help Gorman if he can focus more on hitting, because obviously that needs focus. Burly can be a bench bat who can back up at corner OF or 1B or DH. He'll still probably get plenty of PAs in that role.

And Donovan does not need to face a lot of LHP. He has 0 HRs in his career vs. LHP. Is that what you want in an everyday corner OF?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Scott earned that everyday cf job. So we are going to send him down without giving him another shot because we don't want to move around a bunch of platoon players? Did anyone read the rankings of the first 5 tiers of major league starters?